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icehole3
07-18-2012, 05:03 AM
:)

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http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/17/tlc-pete-rose/

TLC orders Pete Rose reality series -- EXCLUSIVE

Major League Baseball’s all-time hit leader is hoping for one more — in the form of a TV show. EW has learned that TLC has begun production on a reality series starring Pete Rose, the polarizing 17-time All-Star who was banned from his beloved sport for gambling on games while he was a manager for the Cincinnati Reds.

Degenerate39
07-18-2012, 07:04 AM
Damn is that his girlfriend?

RedFanAlways1966
07-18-2012, 07:23 AM
No. Make it stop. Hopefully he can enunciate better than Ozzy. I know... I do not ask for much.

cumberlandreds
07-18-2012, 07:45 AM
Damn is that his girlfriend?

Fiance.

Must see TV. :rolleyes:

bucksfan2
07-18-2012, 08:24 AM
Just a hunch but Pete Rose will do more to embarass Cincinnati in this fiasco.

The Voice of IH
07-18-2012, 10:15 AM
This is going to get America on his side! He is going to tell his story, how baseball wronged him and people will demand him to the hall of fame.

BuckeyeRedleg
07-18-2012, 10:18 AM
I recently watched the Pete Rose documentary, 4192, on Netflix. Excellent stuff and a must watch. I thought he came off as a pretty interesting and (brace for this) good guy. I would love to sit down with Pete and pick and his brain and listen to all the great stories. I know his scandal was an embarrassment, but the guy gave his all on the field and seems like an interesting "man's man". I know this won't be a popular view, but it's just my opinion from watching the documentary and other interviews over the years.

cumberlandreds
07-18-2012, 10:23 AM
I recently watched the Pete Rose documentary, 4192, on Netflix. Excellent stuff and a must watch. I thought he came off as a pretty interesting and (brace for this) good guy. I would love to sit down with Pete and pick and his brain and listen to all the great stories. I know his scandal was an embarrassment, but the guy gave his all on the field and seems like an interesting "man's man". I know this won't be a popular view, but it's just my opinion from watching the documentary and other interviews over the years.

That was a really good documentary that was mainly about his playing career. I really liked it too. As a ballplayer Rose will always be my favorite. But as a human being he certainly isn't.

westofyou
07-18-2012, 10:24 AM
Just a hunch but Pete Rose will do more to embarass Cincinnati in this fiasco.

Human car wreck

bucksfan2
07-18-2012, 10:59 AM
I recently watched the Pete Rose documentary, 4192, on Netflix. Excellent stuff and a must watch. I thought he came off as a pretty interesting and (brace for this) good guy. I would love to sit down with Pete and pick and his brain and listen to all the great stories. I know his scandal was an embarrassment, but the guy gave his all on the field and seems like an interesting "man's man". I know this won't be a popular view, but it's just my opinion from watching the documentary and other interviews over the years.

If Pete Rose were to just talk baseball anyone could listen to him for hours. But the problem is thats not what happens.

Pete has been a trainwreck for a number of years. The ban from baseball, the denial of betting, the hanging around horse tracks and Las Vegas, the signing his name on anything to make a buck, the admission that he bet on baseball to make a buck, the signing "Im sorry I bet on baseball, Pete Rose", etc. The problem I have is whenever he is spotted in Cincinnati fans go nuts, they clammor for Pete to be allowed back in baseball when in reality all Pete wants is the limelight.

IMO Pete never made the changes he needed to make in order to be allowed back in baseball. Whenever he needs an ego boost he heads back to Cincinnati where fans cheer him whenever spotted in a crowd. To me its a sad story.

Sea Ray
07-18-2012, 12:00 PM
Fiance.


"Those" can't be real...:confused:

icehole3
07-18-2012, 12:21 PM
he will always be loved in Cincinnati, always

Johnny Footstool
07-18-2012, 12:38 PM
Two things:

-I'm gonna DVR this show and watch it religiously.
-I know that the "C" in "TLC" never stood for "Class", but really, announcing this series right before HOF inductions is a pretty vile attempt to generate buzz.

Raisor
07-18-2012, 12:44 PM
I'm not going to watch this.

pedro
07-18-2012, 12:52 PM
Just a hunch but Pete Rose will do more to embarass Cincinnati in this fiasco.

He can only embarrass you if you let him. In reality he's only embarrassing himself.

TMBS, I'm glad I don't have cable TV so I won;t be tempted to watch this.

westofyou
07-18-2012, 01:00 PM
he will always be loved in Cincinnati, always

Yes... he's a human 3 way with two cony's on the side and a large Mountain Dew

George Anderson
07-18-2012, 01:09 PM
Shamefully I will admit that I am a bit of a Facebook creeper in that to love to track down small time celebrities, former sports stars etc and check out their profiles. I have done this with the Rose family and trust me, it will be quite entertaining. :D

I am thinking a possible Emmy Award will result from this.

Tom Servo
07-18-2012, 01:24 PM
He better be wearing one of his trademark fashionably hip hats each episode

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Also Kane needs to show up periodically to Tombstone Piledrive Pete.

lidspinner
07-18-2012, 01:24 PM
I love me some Pete Rose....best player to EVER lace up the cleats....hands down. The guy should be a model for everything about how to approach an at bat....if our young players would try and learn from Pete we might have some superstars on our hands.....Pete treated each at bat as if it were his last...no pitch was taken or swung at without it given a 100% effort from Pete via mentally and physically....

with that said, I do believe he has paid his debt to the game(no pun intended) and I think its time to forgive and NOT forget...his story needs to be told and told and told over and over and over again so younger players who dont know the details of his life story can learn from it....putting him in the hall of fame will not be a arrow in the side of MLB, if anything it will prove that MLB is strong and harsh to their word yet still forgiving to players who give so much to the game...maybe this tv series will be the start of people getting to know the truth and the demons that Pete has had to fight over the years and the crap he has had to go through.....maybe it will be a start to getting people back on his side....its up to him how he portrays his life on this show, he can be "superstar" pete who wants the cameras in his face, or he can be a normal person who is living his life trying to make right a super wrong that he committed several years ago...I for one cannot wait to watch.

westofyou
07-18-2012, 01:33 PM
I do believe he has paid his debt to the game(no pun intended) a

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cumberlandreds
07-18-2012, 01:36 PM
I love me some Pete Rose....best player to EVER lace up the cleats....hands down. The guy should be a model for everything about how to approach an at bat....if our young players would try and learn from Pete we might have some superstars on our hands.....Pete treated each at bat as if it were his last...no pitch was taken or swung at without it given a 100% effort from Pete via mentally and physically....

with that said, I do believe he has paid his debt to the game(no pun intended) and I think its time to forgive and NOT forget...his story needs to be told and told and told over and over and over again so younger players who dont know the details of his life story can learn from it....putting him in the hall of fame will not be a arrow in the side of MLB, if anything it will prove that MLB is strong and harsh to their word yet still forgiving to players who give so much to the game...maybe this tv series will be the start of people getting to know the truth and the demons that Pete has had to fight over the years and the crap he has had to go through.....maybe it will be a start to getting people back on his side....its up to him how he portrays his life on this show, he can be "superstar" pete who wants the cameras in his face, or he can be a normal person who is living his life trying to make right a super wrong that he committed several years ago...I for one cannot wait to watch.

These reality shows with celebrities usually only show how shallow and selfish they are. I suspect we will see an even darker and more pathetic side to Rose, the human being.

bucksfan2
07-18-2012, 01:37 PM
I love me some Pete Rose....best player to EVER lace up the cleats....hands down. The guy should be a model for everything about how to approach an at bat....if our young players would try and learn from Pete we might have some superstars on our hands.....Pete treated each at bat as if it were his last...no pitch was taken or swung at without it given a 100% effort from Pete via mentally and physically....

with that said, I do believe he has paid his debt to the game(no pun intended) and I think its time to forgive and NOT forget...his story needs to be told and told and told over and over and over again so younger players who dont know the details of his life story can learn from it....putting him in the hall of fame will not be a arrow in the side of MLB, if anything it will prove that MLB is strong and harsh to their word yet still forgiving to players who give so much to the game...maybe this tv series will be the start of people getting to know the truth and the demons that Pete has had to fight over the years and the crap he has had to go through.....maybe it will be a start to getting people back on his side....its up to him how he portrays his life on this show, he can be "superstar" pete who wants the cameras in his face, or he can be a normal person who is living his life trying to make right a super wrong that he committed several years ago...I for one cannot wait to watch.

I firmly believe that had Pete Rose gone about it the right way he would be back in baseball. He hasn't done anything illegal (well except for that little time spent in the clinker) but he never has changed his ways. You would think someone who got kicked out of baseball because of gambling would think better of hanging around horse tracks and Las Vegas.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 04:30 PM
I wish there was a like button bucksfan. I agree with cumberland too. Rose, every time I see him or hear him interviewed, seems creepy and selfish and self serving. He has disintegrated into a caricature.

Johnny Footstool
07-18-2012, 04:37 PM
I wish there was a like button bucksfan. I agree with cumberland too. Rose, every time I see him or hear him interviewed, seems creepy and selfish and self serving. He has disintegrated into a caricature.

Was he ever anything more than that, though?

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 04:42 PM
He was always a bit of a caricature - the hard charging huslter, the obnoxious hard nosed brawler who'd run over you. But the creepy part, the unhealthy "the world's about me" came later.

icehole3
07-18-2012, 05:24 PM
Yes... he's a human 3 way with two cony's on the side and a large Mountain Dew

OK now Im hungry :laugh:

pedro
07-18-2012, 05:35 PM
Yes... he's a human 3 way with two cony's on the side and a large Mountain Dew

He's all that and a bag of meat.

Matt700wlw
07-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Yes... he's a human 3 way with two cony's on the side and a large Mountain Dew

That's what I usually get, minus one coney :)

Edskin
07-19-2012, 12:33 AM
Just kind of makes me sad. I've been harsh towards Pete over the years but I've never believed him to be a bad PERSON per se'. Comes across to me as somewhat desperate, somewhat delusion, and ultimately somewhat sad.

lidspinner
07-19-2012, 09:46 AM
Just kind of makes me sad. I've been harsh towards Pete over the years but I've never believed him to be a bad PERSON per se'. Comes across to me as somewhat desperate, somewhat delusion, and ultimately somewhat sad.


I agree with you on how he comes across. Guy was my hero as a child and to see him like this is sad, but I think its time for baseball to move on to another chapter and forgive the "Rose" years.....it's time to celebrate the good things he has done within the game of baseball..

Sea Ray
07-19-2012, 09:50 AM
I agree with you on how he comes across. Guy was my hero as a child and to see him like this is sad, but I think its time for baseball to move on to another chapter and forgive the "Rose" years.....it's time to celebrate the good things he has done within the game of baseball..

I don't think MLB is missing Pete Rose. They're doing fine without him

westofyou
07-19-2012, 10:09 AM
I agree with you on how he comes across. Guy was my hero as a child and to see him like this is sad, but I think its time for baseball to move on to another chapter and forgive the "Rose" years.....it's time to celebrate the good things he has done within the game of baseball..

The good things occurred over 25 years ago, the game is popular and has/is still weathering the steroid era and its fallout

The game is seeing record revenues, and meanwhile Pete sells stuff at a card table in Vegas... Stuff that says... Sorry I bet on baseball

Baseball has nothing to gain by celebrating the living, breathing enigma Peter Edward Rose. Only one person benefits from that happening and chances are it won't happen while he is alive

Edskin
07-19-2012, 02:40 PM
Not trying to turn this into yet another in-depth Rose discussion, but here is what has always bugged me:

The Rose "defenders" say things "he loves the game so much" and he "poured his heart into it" etc etc

But here's what gets me: Being the manager of the Cincinnati Reds WASN'T enough for Pete. It wasn't good enough. It didn't excite or energize him enough. He didn't love it enough to be content with what it was. He felt a consistent need to up the ante (literally and figuratively) and that proves to me that Pete probably didn't love the game itself as much as we think he did

lidspinner
07-19-2012, 04:01 PM
Not trying to turn this into yet another in-depth Rose discussion, but here is what has always bugged me:

The Rose "defenders" say things "he loves the game so much" and he "poured his heart into it" etc etc

But here's what gets me: Being the manager of the Cincinnati Reds WASN'T enough for Pete. It wasn't good enough. It didn't excite or energize him enough. He didn't love it enough to be content with what it was. He felt a consistent need to up the ante (literally and figuratively) and that proves to me that Pete probably didn't love the game itself as much as we think he did


that is a different angle for sure and one that I can see....not sure I fully agree but I see your point and its got my brain thinking for sure....my biggest thoughts on Pete are this.....Pete played the game the way I think everyone should play it...I wish my kids knew more of Pete the player as opposed to Pete the cheat, but the way he played the game should be idolized by everyone and anyone associated with the game, especially us Reds fans. The way pete handled himself off the field and the way he has gone about his life post scandal, well that is a chapter that I for one want to forget and I hope Pete realizes it in the same manner that us fans do....Maybe this series will give him a chance to turn that perception of him around...but like stated above, reality series managment wants to see drama.....they dont want a quiet and polite Pete, they want entertainment......lets see how it goes.

I will still forever be a fan and will never forget where I was when 4192 was hit....right there along with Brownings Perfecto.

Chip R
07-19-2012, 04:14 PM
I thought this was an interesting quote:

Rose says that the show will afford him the opportunity to clear up misconceptions that he believes the public has about him. “People will get a chance to see what kind of personality I have — and she has.”

From the description of one of the episodes it looks like his wife is going to have less personality. :D

dougdirt
07-19-2012, 04:17 PM
I will bet you that I don't watch this.

forfreelin04
07-19-2012, 07:59 PM
I will bet you that I don't watch this.

One of the best Reds players of all time, and you don't watch? I'm betting you and the rest of the Anti-rose gang will take a peek. Hatred and anger require interest, which many of you have already made abundantly clear on this board.

dougdirt
07-19-2012, 08:49 PM
One of the best Reds players of all time, and you don't watch? I'm betting you and the rest of the Anti-rose gang will take a peek. Hatred and anger require interest, which many of you have already made abundantly clear on this board.

I can promise you that I won't watch it. The only thing close to reality tv that I watch is sports. And Pawn Stars.

mbgrayson
07-19-2012, 08:50 PM
I will watch at least a couple shows. I am still a Rose fan, but reality TV I can do without.

And FWIW, I don't see how he can be accurately called 'Pete the cheat'. He didn't cheat baseball, he just bet on the sport. I haven't seen a bit of proof that he cheated.

Now Mark McGuire, you know, the Cardinals current hitting coach, he cheated. ARod, he cheated. Giambi, he cheated. Etc. But Pete did not cheat....

dougdirt
07-19-2012, 09:07 PM
I will watch at least a couple shows. I am still a Rose fan, but reality TV I can do without.

And FWIW, I don't see how he can be accurately called 'Pete the cheat'. He didn't cheat baseball, he just bet on the sport. I haven't seen a bit of proof that he cheated.

Now Mark McGuire, you know, the Cardinals current hitting coach, he cheated. ARod, he cheated. Giambi, he cheated. Etc. But Pete did not cheat....

Didn't he cheat on his taxes? And wives?

Maybe the taxes part isn't right, maybe he just wasn't paying. I don't know. He certainly cheated on some ladies though.

And for the record, Pete absolutely cheated baseball, the Reds and the city of Cincinnati. They could have all been celebrating something great. But they can't because Pete was too selfish and cheated them right out of being able to do it.

Johnny Footstool
07-19-2012, 09:36 PM
In my tiny little world, it's still okay to hero-worship, even if that hero is fatally flawed.

GADawg
07-19-2012, 09:37 PM
there's no denying 'ole Pete is arrogant, probably selfish, and not the guy you want to model your life after BUT to call him out for cheating on his taxes? cheating on women? My accountant and I have had many heart to heart conversations about where the proverbial line is and I'm sure we've crossed over the dark side of it more than once...not exactly gonna get me put in the klink but the same principle nonetheless...ethically speaking. Cheating on women? Do we really wanna take an honest poll on that one?

Like most of you I've always loved Pete the player and cringed at Pete the person but I've always been able to seperate the two because I think he's probably just not that smart of a guy. A regular guy with an extraordinary opportunity to make alot of bad decisions. As for watching that show....the guy is an idiot and that makes for great entertainment....I'm in.

dougdirt
07-19-2012, 10:00 PM
there's no denying 'ole Pete is arrogant, probably selfish, and not the guy you want to model your life after BUT to call him out for cheating on his taxes? cheating on women? My accountant and I have had many heart to heart conversations about where the proverbial line is and I'm sure we've crossed over the dark side of it more than once...not exactly gonna get me put in the klink but the same principle nonetheless...ethically speaking. Cheating on women? Do we really wanna take an honest poll on that one?


To be fair, I have never called him "Pete the Cheat" and have never heard of it until this afternoon in this very thread. I was merely pointing out that yes, Pete did cheat.

westofyou
07-19-2012, 10:01 PM
Pete cheated on his income reported, he sold tons of stuff (ie he changed his jersey between innings during the hits record game and sold them and didn't report the income)

He manipulated cash and the folks (ie bobos) that worshipped him, he was a great ball player, he wasn't the best, he was the guy who got the most at bats, his greatness was consistency, tenacity, longevity, aggressiveness.

Unfortunately his weakness (gambling/egomania) coupled with the aforementioned created/creates a toxic batch of YEECH....something MLB will (and should) stay away from.

I LOVED Pete when he was a Red, I was number 14 in everything, when he went FA I was bummed, he came back I was happy.... But now I'm done.

I know what a scam is and Pete makes me feel played.

That said... Here's my Rose fact of the day:

Pete was a doubles machine, but Joey might have him trumped, PR had 9 seasons out of his 24 that he hit more than 36 doubles, his best year was 1978 (walk year) with 51 that was 1/14.3 pa's

Votto has 36 right now in 370 pa's, 1/10.3

BTW that 51 is the team record, Robby also had 51 in 1962, which also was the year he had the Cincinnati record for EBHs

Currently Votto is averaging an EBH every 7.4 PA and at 650 PAs (at that rate) he will still fall about 5 EBHs behind

OK back to PR the hit king and the enigma of seven hills.

redsfaninbsg
07-19-2012, 10:01 PM
It's pretty pathetic to me that baseball forgives steroid users, alcoholics, cocaine addicts, wife beaters, etc but won't forgive a compulsive gambler.

westofyou
07-19-2012, 10:07 PM
It's pretty pathetic to me that baseball forgives steroid users, alcoholics, cocaine addicts, wife beaters, etc but won't forgive a compulsive gambler.

The first 50 years of he game was fraught with gambling and because of that the game almost drifted into the realm of the WWF, no fun.

Busting on the compulsive gambler gave you the joy you live with every summer.

Sure it comes with a price, but as a fan we need to love the game first and the players second, for the former is not near as fallible as the later, as it is not made of flesh.

savafan
07-19-2012, 10:12 PM
The first 50 years of he game was fraught with gambling and because of that the game almost drifted into the realm of the WWF, no fun.



I don't know... it was a different time in our country then as well, in a lot of ways. The perception is different. The last 20 years of the game have been fraught with hallowed records falling to guys who broke federal laws in order to gain a competitive edge.

George Anderson
07-19-2012, 10:13 PM
One of the best Reds players of all time, and you don't watch? I'm betting you and the rest of the Anti-rose gang will take a peek. Hatred and anger require interest, which many of you have already made abundantly clear on this board.

There is no hatred and anger from anyone on this board in regards to the recent Rose fiasco. I can only speak for myself but I see this recent foolishness from Pete pretty embarrasing and oh so typical of the less than quality individual we have all known him to be.

Many people especially myself care about the BRM and its legacy. All this show will do is highlight and expose to a new generation of people who know little about Rose and the BRM just what a disfunctional man he and his family are . It is no different than what happened to Ozzie Osbourne. Instead of resting on his laurels as the lead singer of Black Sabbath, people now equate him as a bumbling brain dead, rock singer with horribly behaved, foul mouthed kids. The same will go for Rose, instead of being remembered as one of the true greats of the game and the leader of the BRM, he instead will be exposed as nothing more than a money grubbing schyster who badly lacks any type of morals or ethics.

When I first heard of this show I had to laugh because I thought watching him and his disfunctional life would be pretty entertaining. However on second thought it kinda angers me because it will bring nothing but more shame and embarrassment to his already sullied name and sadly a bit of a blemish to the BRM.

The sad thing is with Pete we all know he is doing this show for one thing and one thing only and that is the MONEY. Always follow the money when it comes to Pete. I just hope the money he gets from this show was worth it.

GADawg
07-19-2012, 10:14 PM
To be fair, I have never called him "Pete the Cheat" and have never heard of it until this afternoon in this very thread. I was merely pointing out that yes, Pete did cheat.

yeah sorry I wasn't trying to single you out or anything...your post just fell in the right spot it seems. all i meant was it's very common for people to point to the many morality issues that Pete apparently has/had and that casting stones thing is always a pet peeve of mine. I know/knew more than a few people like Pete in my life and their lives were a trainwreck as well but only those closest to them knew about it. I'm not feeling sorry for him 'cause I know that like most of us he would've taken the fame and "fortune" over obscurity but still at the end of the day he's just a dude.

westofyou
07-19-2012, 10:18 PM
I don't know... it was a different time in our country then as well, in a lot of ways. The perception is different. The last 20 years of the game have been fraught with hallowed records falling to guys who broke federal laws in order to gain a competitive edge.

Yet more folks and money poured into the game, during the other era it drifted away

savafan
07-19-2012, 10:22 PM
Yet more folks and money poured into the game, during the other era it drifted away

We have more to devote our cares to in this generation, and less time in which to do it.

savafan
07-19-2012, 10:23 PM
We have more to devote our cares to in this generation, and less time in which to do it.

What I mean by that is that there is so much more going on in our lives today that we don't spend as much of our time being outraged about the negative before we move on to something else.

westofyou
07-19-2012, 10:31 PM
What I mean by that is that there is so much more going on in our lives today that we don't spend as much of our time being outraged about the negative before we move on to something else.

Sorry, but that doesn't excuse anything

savafan
07-19-2012, 10:39 PM
Sorry, but that doesn't excuse anything

Actually, it excuses a lot. Unfortunately.

westofyou
07-19-2012, 11:01 PM
Actually, it excuses a lot. Unfortunately.

Yes, bubble living is the best

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