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Benihana
07-18-2012, 03:06 PM
Would be a crazy Titanic of a blockbuster if true...

Nightingale reporting

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 03:26 PM
Would be a crazy "sinking titanic" of a "going out of business Blockbuster" if true...

Those are 3 horribly regressing players making WAAAAAY more than they should. A bad contract smorgasbord.

Scrap Irony
07-18-2012, 03:34 PM
Love the deal for a myriad of reasons, the primary being it's a heck of a story.

Ramirez will help Boston's SS hole, Bell will help Boston's relief problems, and Crawford will help Miami's OF woes.

It's an outside the box deal that has a chance of helping both squads.

Would love to see other teams do the same type of thing-- dealing expensive sunk costs for other expensive sunk costs.

Nice thought, if true, by both GMs.

Benihana
07-18-2012, 03:35 PM
I'd take HanRam if the Fish paid half his salary. No thanks to the other two.

Dan
07-18-2012, 03:40 PM
MLBTR Update (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/red-sox-marlins-discussing-crawford-hanley-bell.html):


1:10pm: There's no current discussion involving Crawford, Ramirez and Bell, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). The idea surfaced briefly as a concept and immediately died.

I'd put this on par with the Yankees and Red Sox agreeing to trade Williams for DiMaggio.

blumj
07-18-2012, 03:49 PM
Love the deal for a myriad of reasons, the primary being it's a heck of a story.

Ramirez will help Boston's SS hole, Bell will help Boston's relief problems, and Crawford will help Miami's OF woes.

It's an outside the box deal that has a chance of helping both squads.

Would love to see other teams do the same type of thing-- dealing expensive sunk costs for other expensive sunk costs.

Nice thought, if true, by both GMs.
By pouring the gasoline or lighting the match?

Homer Bailey
07-18-2012, 03:56 PM
Olney has already shut this rumor down.

MikeS21
07-18-2012, 04:13 PM
Here we go with the rumors again. I always wonder where these guys get their "inside information." But even more, I wonder why "inside information" that is legitimate gets "leaked." Baseball executives and FO insiders have to be playing some kind of an angle if they are going to go blab to a writer about potential and actual deals. Find the angle and it will bring you closer to the truth.

Scrap Irony
07-18-2012, 04:16 PM
I'd take HanRam if the Fish paid half his salary.

How about Ramirez for Arroyo, with the Fish paying the difference in salaries and the Reds throwing in Sulbaran? (In my hypothetical, Arroyo says yes to the deal, as he has 5/10 rights.)

REDREAD
07-18-2012, 04:50 PM
How about Ramirez for Arroyo, with the Fish paying the difference in salaries and the Reds throwing in Sulbaran? (In my hypothetical, Arroyo says yes to the deal, as he has 5/10 rights.)

We really can't trade anyone from the rotation unless we get a starter back.

If the team is forced to put Redmond, LeCure, or someone like that in the rotation for an extended period of time, we're in big trouble.
Simon might be able to handle it, but why risk it? He seems like the classic case of a failed starter who can handle the bullpen.

Brutus
07-18-2012, 04:57 PM
The Reds should ship Sean Casey to Florida for Crawford.

RedlegJake
07-18-2012, 04:57 PM
For all we know Redmond might be as good as Arroyo. He needs to get a start or two to find out anything though. He sounds a bit like Leake, his control, his stuff. I think it would be worth it if there was a trade that could get us out from under Arroyo's 2013 contract although the accelerated deferrment payments would still be a problem.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2012, 05:12 PM
By pouring the gasoline or lighting the match?

Exactly. This whole speculated deal is much ado about nothing. None of the 3 players have looked even remotely good recently (I'm not going to count the couple of games Crawford's played). They're big names and big contracts...and big flops.

PuffyPig
07-18-2012, 05:55 PM
Bell will help Boston's relief problems......


Unless Boston's problem is that thier relievers are too effective, Bell won't be much help.....

blumj
07-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Unless Boston's problem is that thier relievers are too effective, Bell won't be much help.....
Actually, that is one of their problems, their relievers keep showing up the starters by getting opposing batters out.

Dan
07-19-2012, 11:41 AM
Here we go with the rumors again. I always wonder where these guys get their "inside information." But even more, I wonder why "inside information" that is legitimate gets "leaked." Baseball executives and FO insiders have to be playing some kind of an angle if they are going to go blab to a writer about potential and actual deals. Find the angle and it will bring you closer to the truth.

It's probably the 10th person in the room, new kid who wants to show off by boasting about a deal he knows about and a veteran reporter who knows how to work people like that into giving him the info he wants. Same thing happens in the government.