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Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 03:31 PM
A win tonight would give the Reds a 6-game winning streak for the 4th time this season.....

Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Paul LF
Frazier 1B
Mesoraco C
Leake P

LexRedsFan
07-24-2012, 03:32 PM
Xavier Paul in front of Frazier? What?

Hope it works out.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 03:45 PM
A win tonight would give the Reds a 6-game winning streak for the 4th time this season.....

Cozart SS
Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Paul LF
Frazier 1B
Mesoraco C
Leake P

Lol

I was guessing Ludwick's 3 hits would get him benched but apparently Heisey's 2 put him there also.

Dusty got me!

Good luck to Paul! He won't get many starts and I've never not rooted for a guy during the very early call ups in their career.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 03:58 PM
Wonder why he switched Stubbs and Cozy? It matters zero, I just wondered.

Is Paul maybe getting a few starts to see if he's a serviceable lefty for the rest of the way?....

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 03:59 PM
Wonder why he switched Stubbs and Cozy? It matters zero, I just wondered.

Is Paul maybe getting a few starts to see if he's a serviceable lefty for the rest of the way?....

Might as well get him some AB's while you are still playing the Astros.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Gotta get Paul going.

Joesh
07-24-2012, 05:17 PM
Does Dusty just pull names out of a hat for the lineup everyday or what? Day in and day out his lineups make no sense whatsoever. I honestly want to take a side project and figure out how many runs the Reds leave on the table each game throughout the season simply because of the lineup order. I wouldn't be shocked if the Reds are losing 0.5-1.0 expected runs on average each game

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Does Dusty just pull names out of a hat for the lineup everyday or what? Day in and day out his lineups make no sense whatsoever. I honestly want to take a side project and figure out how many runs the Reds leave on the table each game throughout the season simply because of the lineup order. I wouldn't be shocked if the Reds are losing 0.5-1.0 expected runs on average each game

Thats just a crazy guess on your part due to a hatred for Dusty. How would you go about proving that anyway.

MrRedLegger
07-24-2012, 06:20 PM
It's hard to speculate what a different lineup would do. To assume hit counts stay the same is incorrect...they'd get different pitches based on the situation. The variance is way too high. 4th best record in baseball suggests let Dusty keep doing what he's doing.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 06:31 PM
It's hard to speculate what a different lineup would do. To assume hit counts stay the same is incorrect...they'd get different pitches based on the situation. The variance is way too high. 4th best record in baseball suggests let Dusty keep doing what he's doing.

Good point....we have the 4th best record in baseball and the 2nd best in the NL and all people do is complain. I really hope something is done about these boards so we can start getting rid of some of the trolls.

brm7675
07-24-2012, 07:06 PM
Does Dusty just pull names out of a hat for the lineup everyday or what? Day in and day out his lineups make no sense whatsoever. I honestly want to take a side project and figure out how many runs the Reds leave on the table each game throughout the season simply because of the lineup order. I wouldn't be shocked if the Reds are losing 0.5-1.0 expected runs on average each game

Dart Board..

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 07:09 PM
Cubs up 1 - 0 in top of first

go Cubs!

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 07:31 PM
Frazier batting 7th.

:bang:

malcontent
07-24-2012, 07:34 PM
Cubs up 1 - 0 in top of first

go Cubs!
Drew Sutton starting in LF again for the Pirates.

That team could use another OF with a bat.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 07:34 PM
Thats just a crazy guess on your part due to a hatred for Dusty. How would you go about proving that anyway.

It's common opinion around the world of baseball that Dusty makes terrible lineups....that there's no common sense involved with his decision-making when it comes to lineup construction. I doubt if any "hatred" for a Manager has any bearing on his conjecturing on what difference that manager makes in the total wins of a season. Pretty sure it's based on the decisions the Manager makes, and not on his personal feelings about the man. Why you would think that I have no idea.

malcontent
07-24-2012, 07:36 PM
Gotta get Paul going.
That's right.

And Ludwick is already going, so nothing to see there.

Rolen continuing his inexorable climb back to cleanup.

He'll be there before he's OPSing 0.650.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 07:38 PM
A win tonight would give the Reds a 6-game winning streak for the 4th time this season.....

Can't remember the last time this has happened. I would think it hadn't happened since the 1970's.

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 07:38 PM
It's common opinion around the world of baseball that Dusty makes terrible lineups....that there's no common sense involved with his decision-making when it comes to lineup construction. I doubt if any "hatred" for a Manager has any bearing on his conjecturing on what difference that manager makes in the total wins of a season. Pretty sure it's based on the decisions the Manager makes, and not on his personal feelings about the man. Why you would think that I have no idea.

Well whatever he's doing it's working. Baseball's a crazy game and Dusty has won a lot more baseball than most.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 07:39 PM
Well whatever he's doing it's working. Baseball's a crazy game.It certainly is.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 07:59 PM
That's right.

And Ludwick is already going, so nothing to see there.

Rolen continuing his inexorable climb back to cleanup.

He'll be there before he's OPSing 0.650.

i was being sarcastic. that's what he said a few months ago about Willie Harris. That being said, we are in first place so I'm not complaining about anything

The Rage
07-24-2012, 08:01 PM
I expect a gem from Leake tonight after that fecal matter he threw his last start out.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:02 PM
ah man. pirates and cubs are tied now

JB12
07-24-2012, 08:08 PM
Gotta get Paul going.

In the Dusty voice. Love it!

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:13 PM
it would be nice for bruce to wake his butt up here and knock in this run

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:13 PM
Phillips up to .298. Nice.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:15 PM
I see a two-run jack coming up.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:15 PM
2 run double.. cubs lead 3-1

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 08:15 PM
why is it when Bruce hits with 2 outs, it feels like the inning is already over?

JB12
07-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Cubbies tac two more on! Leading 3-1

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:16 PM
why is it when Bruce hits with 2 outs, it feels like the inning is already over?
because 82 percent of the time that holds true

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:16 PM
Or else I see a strike out. Not sure which. LOL.

FloridaBuckeye
07-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Bruce frustrates me

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:18 PM
gotta get bruce going

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:19 PM
well that was a crap hit

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 08:20 PM
i guess the words clutch and Bruce will never be used in the same sentence.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:21 PM
i guess the words clutch and Bruce will never be used in the same sentence.
He needs to sit down and watch a highlight film of his first week in the MLB

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:22 PM
what a play by TODD!!!

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:23 PM
Frazier gets a gold star in the first. Reaches to his left to snare a ball headed for the right-field corner. Steps on first. Fires to Cozart to complete the double play.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:24 PM
McDonald kind of struggling for the bucs tonight. hopefully they face Dempster tomorrow before he gets traded

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:25 PM
Well whatever he's doing it's working. Baseball's a crazy game and Dusty has won a lot more baseball than most.

yes -- that is true -- he's 20th in all time wins!

and also 20th in all time games managed -

and -- oddly enough --

20th in all time losses ---

so what does that say?

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 08:25 PM
5-1 Cubs.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:25 PM
It's common opinion around the world of baseball that Dusty makes terrible lineups....that there's no common sense involved with his decision-making when it comes to lineup construction. I doubt if any "hatred" for a Manager has any bearing on his conjecturing on what difference that manager makes in the total wins of a season. Pretty sure it's based on the decisions the Manager makes, and not on his personal feelings about the man. Why you would think that I have no idea.

The key word in your statement....opinion!

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:26 PM
Old Man River leads off the second. Bounces to third.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:27 PM
yes -- that is true -- he's 20th in all time wins!

and also 20th in all time games managed -

and -- oddly enough --

20th in all time losses ---

so what does that say?

If you're playing Black Jack hold at 20?

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:29 PM
If you're playing Black Jack hold at 20?

Would be a good idea most of the time... :laugh:

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:29 PM
the pirates haven't had to handle success yet. Not surprised to see them losing to the Cubs. They probably went into this series too cocky

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Xavier Paul reaches on a line drive that the shortstop oled (ole'd?)or something. He is given a base hit. He steals second with two down.

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
Has Paul already doubled the production of our LH bench guys for the year?

;);)

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
the pirates haven't had to handle success yet. Not surprised to see them losing to the Cubs. They probably went into this series too cocky

I doubt it was them being cocky....Clint Hurdle is too good a manager for that. Everyone goes thru slumps, I would imagine that's what it is, just guessing tho.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
good thing about Leake pitching is that they can't pitch aroudn the 8th hitter

BPhil4
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
5-1 Cubs.

Soriano is on fire!

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
Mesoraco hits a rope that is flagged down by their first baseman.

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:32 PM
Rocket to right by Frazier snared at 1B

crappola

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Rocket to right by Frazier snared at 1B

crappola

Frazier whiffed. Mes got robbed.

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:34 PM
Mesoraco hits a rope that is flagged down by their first baseman.

oops -- thought it was Frazier -- must have missed something

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:35 PM
Cueto with the dread pony tail.....lol

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Frazier whiffed. Mes got robbed.

I need to give up this work stuff --

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:36 PM
oops -- thought it was Frazier -- must have missed something

Frazier K'd when Paul stole second.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:36 PM
I need to give up this work stuff --

Yeah it's over rated....lol

malcontent
07-24-2012, 08:37 PM
yes -- that is true -- he's 20th in all time wins!

and also 20th in all time games managed -

and -- oddly enough --

20th in all time losses ---

so what does that say?
Until this run he's been a .500 manager for the Reds.

Even now he's only 378-366 (.508).

Below .500 for the Cubs.

I'd say he's had considerably more opportunity than most, given his W-L records. Oh. And Bonds. He had Bonds.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:37 PM
Leake has only thrown 15 pitches through two.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:38 PM
Until this run he's been a .500 manager for the Reds.

Even now he's only 378-366 (.508).

Below .500 for the Cubs.

I'd say he's had considerably more opportunity than most, given his W-L records. Oh. And Bonds. He had Bonds.

Baker can't win for losing!!!

malcontent
07-24-2012, 08:39 PM
Bakers can't win for losing!!!
Not true, my good man.

For each game he loses, he wins one!

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 08:40 PM
The key word in your statement....opinion!Very true...which means the majority could be dead wrong.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:40 PM
Not true, my good man.

For each game he loses, he wins one!

Lol...good one....gotta chuckle outa me!!!

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:41 PM
Reds having bad luck tonight

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:41 PM
Cozart stings one but Altuve flags it down on its way to right field.

Red Raindog
07-24-2012, 08:41 PM
Baker can't win for losing!!!

actually - as the stats show -- he can win a lot -- and lose a lot -- and manage a lot

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 08:42 PM
good thing about Leake pitching is that they can't pitch aroudn the 8th hitterIt's always fun having Leake in the lineup. Maybe that's why Frazier is batting 7th....Frazier gets on and Leake knocks him in.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:42 PM
Reds having bad luck tonight

Yeah but at least they are putting good wood on the ball

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:42 PM
Mesoraco only catches Leake now?

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:42 PM
Stubbs with an infield base hit.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:43 PM
would be nice to see a two-run jack here

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:43 PM
Let's see him steal second. Phillips single him home to reach .300. And the game will be over because Stubbs scored a run.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:43 PM
2 infield singles...nice hustle

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:44 PM
Run, Drew, run. Geez. Go, go, go.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 08:44 PM
Mesoraco only catches Leake now?

Also catches Bailey.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Also catches Bailey.

Okay. That's better.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Bruce with a chance at redemption here

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
Three-run jack coming up.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
Come on Jay

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 08:46 PM
Bruce up with 2 outs again, what does he do this time?

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Sount like a broken bat

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:47 PM
What Marty would say: "It makes you wander if Bruce will ever develop into the player that he is suppose to be. He simply does not get the job done again. We'll be back on the Cincinnnati Bell Reds radio network

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:48 PM
What Marty would say: "It makes you wander if Bruce will ever develop into the player that he is suppose to be. He simply does not get the job done again. We'll be back on the Cincinnnati Bell Reds radio network

Nice call...I could picture him saying that in my head

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Bruce with 3 lob in 3 innings.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:50 PM
Leake is dealing so far.. Hitting his spots great tonight

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:50 PM
Chris Snyder is a beefy individual.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:51 PM
Chris Snyder is a beefy individual.

Beeeeeef caaaaaake!!!

Kcbuckeye22
07-24-2012, 08:51 PM
I just gotta think if Ludwick was batting in Bruce's last at bats we'd have a couple run lead.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:51 PM
Leake is wheeling and dealing.

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:53 PM
Base hit for the pitcher. Altuve up with two outs.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:54 PM
still hard to believe I am keeping up with Pirates games.. feels funny

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:54 PM
still hard to believe I am keeping up with Pirates games.. feels funny

The old twenty-year time warp.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 08:54 PM
still hard to believe I am keeping up with Pirates games.. feels funny

Like its 1992 or something.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:55 PM
The old twenty-year time warp.

Yeah...I'm glad they are doing good this year tho...they have suffered enough....lol

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:55 PM
I hope the Pirates make the playoffs. Not at the Reds' expense though.

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 08:55 PM
pirates about to get wandy r

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
Frazier with another nice play.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
Yeah...I'm glad they are doing good this year tho...they have suffered enough....lol

I don't really feel sorry for there fans because they've been spoiled so much by the Steelers and Penguins over the years. Cubs just got out of a two out and two on jam. still 5-1

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
pirates about to get wandy r

Where u hear that at

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:56 PM
pirates about to get wandy r

Awesome! Reds are 2-0 against him this year

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 08:57 PM
Where u hear that at

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/pirates-close-to-acquiring-wandy-rodriguez.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:57 PM
I don't really feel sorry for there fans because they've been spoiled so much by the Steelers and Penguins over the years. Cubs just got out of a two out and two on jam. still 5-1

That's true...as a Colts fan i hate the Steelers

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 08:58 PM
Awesome! Reds are 2-0 against him this year

yea he's good but not great. im guessing upgrade still

texasdave
07-24-2012, 08:58 PM
Start things off for us Scotty.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 08:58 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/pirates-close-to-acquiring-wandy-rodriguez.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That would be a good pick up for them as long as they aren't giving up the farm

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 08:59 PM
Latos is a luck SOB for getting a W out of that crap last night. just a random thought. Just like he was in that game he gave up 5 homers in

The Rage
07-24-2012, 08:59 PM
Latos is a luck SOB for getting a W out of that crap last night. just a random thought. Just like he was in that game he gave up 5 homers in

A good reason w/l don't tell much all the time

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 09:00 PM
That would be a good pick up for them as long as they aren't giving up the farm

i think he has big contract so im guessing they won't

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:00 PM
Latos is a luck SOB for getting a W out of that crap last night. just a random thought. Just like he was in that game he gave up 5 homers in

Yeah...but you need a lil luck sometimes. Sometimes you get beat when you have really good stuff and the offense doesn't score.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:02 PM
Yeah...but you need a lil luck sometimes. Sometimes you get beat when you have really good stuff and the doesn't score.

This is true

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:02 PM
Bad luck for Paul there

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:04 PM
Good luck for Frazier there....lol....game of inches

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:05 PM
If Reds win tonite...look for a sweep tomorrow with Bailey pitching.

mu4103
07-24-2012, 09:06 PM
Just saw the line-up.

1. Why do the Reds have 4 LFers on the team.
2. Why is Paul in the majors? (I guess he is a left-handed bat off the bench)
3. Don't the Reds need help at 1B? Is there no one else to bring up but a career .244 hitter with no power?

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:08 PM
Another no name pitcher the Reds can't figure out?

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:08 PM
Just saw the line-up.

1. Why do the Reds have 4 LFers on the team.
2. Why is Paul in the majors? (I guess he is a left-handed bat off the bench)
3. Don't the Reds need help at 1B? Is there no one else to bring up but a career .244 hitter with no power?


Someones in a great mood tonight! To answer your third question I don't think there is much in the farm system they could bring up. He's got a hit tonight.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:09 PM
Another no name pitcher the Reds can't figure out?

Harrell has a sub 2 ERA in 7 starts at Minute Maid Park. This is not an aberration.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:10 PM
crap. leadoff walk

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:11 PM
These are the games the Reds must win...a very poor Astros team

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:12 PM
dont have a good feeling about this game

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:13 PM
what is going on. i had this on mute?

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:14 PM
man the slow mo really shows how slow the game of baseball is sometimes.. lol

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:18 PM
Crap.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:18 PM
dont have a good feeling about this game

2-0 Stros

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:18 PM
Mike being challenged this inning, tuff it out.

joshua
07-24-2012, 09:18 PM
Paul comes in to save Stubbs.

And homer for Maxwell. 2-0 'Stros.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:20 PM
The killer L's are at it again. Really Mike?

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:20 PM
i guess its about time the Astros put runs on the board with the amount of runners they've left on base in this series

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:20 PM
A championship team doesn't lose games to Minor league caliber teams.

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 09:21 PM
i love how every 1 acts like the astros can't win. yes they will lose a good % but they can def win a game every so often

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:22 PM
A championship team doesn't lose games to Minor league caliber teams.

LOL. So the Cardinals were 18-0 against Houston last season?

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:22 PM
It's the top of the 5th and we've won 5 in a row. It's also a road game without our best hitter.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:25 PM
We've also got Heisey, Ludwick and Valdez....and if it goes deep enough, Hanigan to offer pinch-hit opportunities, though Leake shouldn't be pinch-hit for. The one guy who will be removed has a hit tonight....Paul.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:26 PM
Looks like Wandy Rodriguez has just been traded to the Pirates.

Kcbuckeye22
07-24-2012, 09:28 PM
Sure does.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:29 PM
why would the Pirates trade for an average pitcher?

FloridaBuckeye
07-24-2012, 09:29 PM
Cubbies need to hold on...

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 09:30 PM
why would the Pirates trade for an average pitcher?

Because he's better than at least one of their starters. They are going for it.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:32 PM
Pirates with 2 on, no out, bottom 9

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 09:32 PM
why would the Pirates trade for an average pitcher?

there not trading for a number 1

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 09:32 PM
Paul showed a good arm on that Stubbs slide thingy.....saved a run!

Our hits this game are awful. To this point I've never seen a more fortunate hitter than Todd Frazier...it's funny.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
i love how every 1 acts like the astros can't win. yes they will lose a good % but they can def win a game every so often

I know right....these boards mood changes on a dime.

FloridaBuckeye
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
Nice.... pirates lose

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
I want to see us knock Harrell out of the game in the top of the 6th...get him over 100 pitches.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
cubs win, wont matter if the reds bats dont wake up

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:34 PM
At this rate, Leake could get a complete game loss if we don't rally.

Let's go REDS!

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
5-1 Cubs win over Bucs

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
cubs win, wont matter if the reds bats dont wake up

of course it matters. you do realize even if we lose we don't lose a game?

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
Speaking of bad luck, Leake's had his share. And, didn't Leake last season get some of the worst lineups from Baker?

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:36 PM
We have won a ton of games over the last couple weeks and people make it sound like we are in last place....too funny!

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 09:37 PM
This Harrell's a pretty good pitcher. This will make 5 of his last 6 outings of quality starts.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:37 PM
Nice hit BP

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
Leadoff double for BP

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
finally a hit thats not with 2 outs

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
We have won a ton of games over the last couple weeks and people make it sound like we are in last place....too funny!

No, I just think we must win these games against weak teams because we WILL lose games to good teams down the road.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
i'm late to the thread....why in God's name is Ludwick not in the line-up? He had how many hits the last 2 games?

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
i'm late to the thread....why in God's name is Ludwick not in the line-up? He had how many hits the last 2 games?

735

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 09:38 PM
c'mon Bruce.

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:39 PM
No, I just think we must win these games against weak teams because we WILL lose games to good teams down the road.

But you can't win every game against bad teams, just not gonna happen

R_Webb18
07-24-2012, 09:39 PM
We have won a ton of games over the last couple weeks and people make it sound like we are in last place....too funny!

yea its crazy. i guess its hard for people to understand how long a baseball season is.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:39 PM
735

sorry don't understand...

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:40 PM
sorry don't understand...

I gave a facetious response to your rhetorical question.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:40 PM
Take the walk Bruce. You need to do that more.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:40 PM
3 run homerun here would be nice

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:41 PM
But you can't win every game against bad teams, just not gonna happen
The 1976 REDS:

12-6 vs Houston
13-5 vs Los Angeles
9-3 vs Chicago
9-3 vs Montreal
12-6 vs Atlanta
8-4 vs Pittsburgh
13-5 vs San Diego

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:42 PM
The 1976 REDS:

12-6 vs Houston
13-5 vs Los Angeles
9-3 vs Chicago
9-3 vs Montreal
12-6 vs Atlanta
8-4 vs Pittsburgh
13-5 vs San Diego

What's that suppose to mean

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:43 PM
What's that suppose to meanIt's not suppose to mean anything.

Those are the best results from the best team the REDS have ever fielded. Winning two of three or three of four against bad teams is a very, very positive result.

mu4103
07-24-2012, 09:44 PM
Just noticed that there are 3 hitters in the line-up tonight with an average above .250. Unfortunately, one of them is the pitcher.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:44 PM
Let's knock this guy out of the inning!

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 09:44 PM
It's not suppose to mean anything.

Those are the best results from the best team the REDS have ever fielded. Winning two of three against bad teams is a positive result.

Ok my bad man...I just don't get why people are think we should win every game against teams like the Stros. We should win just about every series against them, but not every game.

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Nice job X.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Paul has had a very nice game tonight.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Paul, sucker did it

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Ok my bad man...I just don't get why people are think we should win every game against teams like the Stros. We should win just about every series against them, but not every game.Exactly.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
Tommy Lasorta said, "no matter how bad you are you are going to win 1 out of 3 games, and no matter how good you are you are going to lose 1 out of 3 games."

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:45 PM
cmon guys, 1 run isnt enough for this inning

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:46 PM
Xavier Paul!!!

Had to say that name with exclamation points at least once.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:46 PM
Ok my bad man...I just don't get why people are think we should win every game against teams like the Stros. We should win just about every series against them, but not every game.

This is my philosophy.....beat up on the weak teams to pad the lead, then if we have difficulties with the good teams, we can survive some losses.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:47 PM
This is my philosophy.....beat up on the weak teams to pad the lead, then if we have difficulties with the good teams, we can survive some losses.It's the philosophy any Manager worth a grain of salt instills in all of his players.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
that was not that productive.....:(

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
Do you think Mes ever gets tired of being a non factor?

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
Frazier messed that inning up. Swung like a wild man.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
Darn it!

We let Harrell escape that inning.

Well, at least we got on the board and the team is jacked now. Let's get 'em in the 7th. Great Defense and Great Pitching to start our bottom half of the 6th.

wvreds
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
Ive been brewing this over for a while but I believe Mesoraco needs to go back to AAA, his offensive skill set is just not there yet

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
the catching position is definitely an offensive weakness on this team

Stray
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
Mes is fine, he works well with Bailey and Leake.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
Marlins lose again....expand the fire sale.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:49 PM
Ive been brewing this over for a while but I believe Mesoraco needs to go back to AAA, his offensive skill set is just not there yet

It isn't happening. He is the backup catcher and will continue in that role through the end of the season.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 09:50 PM
Ive been brewing this over for a while but I believe Mesoraco needs to go back to AAA, his offensive skill set is just not there yet

8 game hitting streak disagrees a bit

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:50 PM
Cards score, 2-2 with Dodgers, bot 5

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:51 PM
Ive been brewing this over for a while but I believe Mesoraco needs to go back to AAA, his offensive skill set is just not there yetI'd just like to see a 60-40 ratio for Hanigan and Mes. Mesoraco has shown throughout his professional baseball career that he's an excellent learner. He'll absorb what he gets taught in the Majors. He's learned enough at AAA.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:51 PM
Do you think Mes ever gets tired of being a non factor?

why should he, it doesn't bother our manager. I'm not much on the "platoon" situation behind the plate. I think Hannigan is a much better option. Most teams have a starting catcher, then a back up Sunday catcher.

malcontent
07-24-2012, 09:51 PM
Do you think Mes ever gets tired of being a non factor?
Apparently not.

When their offensive games are considered, forget Grandal >> Mesoraco.

At this point Navarro > Mesoraco.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 09:52 PM
The Reds are living well with their hits tonight.

6 hits.....2 that literally hit inches from the plate, 2 that went off of gloves of infielders, Paul's 6 hopper and Frazier's silly blooper.

40YrRedsFan
07-24-2012, 09:53 PM
Apparently not.

When their offensive games are considered, forget Grandal >> Mesoraco.

At this point Navarro > Mesoraco.

Navarro has struck out only 21 times in about 250 at bats and is hitting .330 +

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:53 PM
Apparently not.

When their offensive games are considered, forget Grandal >> Mesoraco.

At this point Navarro > Mesoraco.

lol. Mes doesn't even play near as much as Grandal and thus is irrevelant in comparison.

He only plays 2 times a week.

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 09:53 PM
the catching position is definitely an offensive weakness on this team

Be nice to maybe pick Hernandez back up from the Rockies. Could use another veteran for the stretch run.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 09:53 PM
8 game hitting streak disagrees a bit

What's his avg. with runners in scoring position? How many RBI's does he have?

The Rage
07-24-2012, 09:54 PM
Be nice to maybe pick Hernandez back up from the Rockies. Could use another veteran for the stretch run.

Nope.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:56 PM
Be nice to maybe pick Hernandez back up from the Rockies. Could use another veteran for the stretch run.I'd take him over Cairo. Then Hanigan could be used as a pinch-hitter on days Mesoraco catches. As it is, Hanigan doesn't get used.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 09:57 PM
Here comes their bullpen.

Let's hit them hard like we did yesterday.

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 09:57 PM
Leake's gonna win a gold glove one day.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 09:58 PM
Harrell still in.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:00 PM
Cozart is bad bad.

George Foster
07-24-2012, 10:01 PM
Cozart has been dissapointing offensively this year...does not get on base enough.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:02 PM
Cozart has been dissapointing offensively this year...does not get on base enough.

I knew his obp would be weak, but I thought he would have more hits thus pop which cannot be discounted.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:02 PM
Way to go, Drew!

xsteve1
07-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Good job Stubbs. I'll bet his average is better than Bruce's by years end.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Stubbs with the first solid hit of the night.

0-2 count and Harrell throws a fastball right down the middle? This is the big leagues dude.

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:04 PM
Cozart has been dissapointing offensively this year...does not get on base enough.He just needs to be dropped to 8th in the lineup. Batting 1st is too much pressure.

Stray
07-24-2012, 10:04 PM
Well we're into their bullpen

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:05 PM
Heck of a job by Harrell. He should get a standing ovation.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:05 PM
What's his avg. with runners in scoring position? How many RBI's does he have?

Same questions for Hanigan.

I agree offensive he's not what they told us he was at this point. But he does have a legitimate 8 game hitting streak....that's why I said a bit.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:06 PM
Good job Stubbs. I'll bet his average is better than Bruce's by years end.

I'll take that bet.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:07 PM
Cozart has been dissapointing offensively this year...does not get on base enough.

And will easily lead the team in plate appearances at the end of the year.

joshua
07-24-2012, 10:08 PM
Rolen showing off his juggling skills.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:09 PM
this team is probably gonna make the playoffs but to compete for a WS it needs a leadoff hitter

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:10 PM
back to back epic choke jobs by the Brewers vs the Phillies

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:10 PM
Come on Mike and old man........big strikeout. Time for a dp.

malcontent
07-24-2012, 10:11 PM
Rolen showing off his juggling skills.
Wot happened?

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:15 PM
Wot happened?

Had to back up on a strange hit ball....fielded it in the palm of his glove at deep 3rd on the line and bobbled it trying to throw it quickly to get the out....would've been tight but you expect Rolen to make it.

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:17 PM
What's his avg. with runners in scoring position? How many RBI's does he have?

He has 2 more RBI than Hanigan with 24 less runners on base to knock in.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:18 PM
can we score some runs now please??

BluegrassRedleg
07-24-2012, 10:18 PM
this team is probably gonna make the playoffs but to compete for a WS it needs a leadoff hitter

Gotta get better in order to manufacture runs against quality pitching. This Harrell kid is pretty solid, but they come much tougher than him in the postseason.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 10:18 PM
Hey we might get to face COCO tonight!!! Let's not get our heads down yet

Ironman92
07-24-2012, 10:19 PM
He has 2 more RBI than Hanigan with 24 less runners on base to knock in.

Horrible number with RISP....but only 33 AB

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:20 PM
Same questions for Hanigan.

I agree offensive he's not what they told us he was at this point. But he does have a legitimate 8 game hitting streak....that's why I said a bit.Hanigan has a career .385 OBP w/ men on base. The guy should be hitting in the middle of the lineup.

FloridaBuckeye
07-24-2012, 10:21 PM
this is uneventful.....

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:21 PM
Nice another walk. If Jay would just take what the opposing pitcher gives him, he would be way better. Instead, he tries to force the issue.

Who Dey Time
07-24-2012, 10:21 PM
Big chance here. Got to cash in.

Stray
07-24-2012, 10:22 PM
gotta bunt here

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:22 PM
wow that was awful

Stray
07-24-2012, 10:23 PM
another slide for the highlight reel

Votto4MVP
07-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Need frazier to come through here.

Votto4MVP
07-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Need frazier to come through here.

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:24 PM
Frazier destroyed

dubc47834
07-24-2012, 10:24 PM
Looks like we are going to blow a golden opportunity

BluegrassRedleg
07-24-2012, 10:24 PM
How these guys can get to this level and not bunt successfully is amazing.

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 10:24 PM
Mes could make up for his failures right here... well nevermind.. Heisey is up

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:25 PM
frazier isnt very good with runners on, besides phillips not one reliable hitter in the lineup

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:25 PM
Why wouldn't you use Hanigan here?

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:25 PM
Mes's confidence will go up now.........

Kingspoint
07-24-2012, 10:25 PM
Why wouldn't you use Hanigan here?

The Rage
07-24-2012, 10:29 PM
What failures. From the non-bunt to the horribe AB's that followed. Good grief. I would have given Mes the shot. Kids confidence has to be shattered right now.

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:30 PM
if the reds arent hitting homeruns they aren't scoring. simple as that, time for walt to get on the phone and get some players who can put the baseball in play

Maker_84
07-24-2012, 10:33 PM
might wanna add Altuve to the Reds killer team along with Choo and Molina

Stray
07-24-2012, 10:36 PM
another slide for the highlight reel

arkimadee
07-24-2012, 10:37 PM
it would only be fitting if Co-Co went 1-2-3 here.. lol