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Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 05:15 PM
For the 4th time in 2012 the Reds will try to extend a win streak to seven.

Cozart 6
Stubbs 8
Bruce 9
Ludwick 7
Rolen 5
Frazier 3
Valdez 4
Mesoraco 2
Bailey 1

wvreds
07-25-2012, 05:23 PM
Dat Dude must be a "managers decision" :lol:

texasdave
07-25-2012, 05:56 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_07_25_cinmlb_houmlb_1&mode=preview

Preview from MLB.com. Homer pitches well down here. The importance of quality pitching cannot be overstated IMO. If I am a small-market GM, the emphasis is on pitching first, pitching second and pitching third.

EMAW
07-25-2012, 06:14 PM
when is the last time he had a day off without being injured? do not remember

Ironman92
07-25-2012, 06:27 PM
BP will drive Dusty nuts in the dugout! Lol

No problem here with Phillips getting a day off and Valdez getting some playing time.

Wouldn't surprise me if Phillips is retrieving bats and stuff.

brm7675
07-25-2012, 07:00 PM
Dat Dude tweeted not happy but knows it for the best and he needs it.

FloridaBuckeye
07-25-2012, 07:15 PM
Dat Dude must be a "managers decision" :lol:

That... Or he's about to be traded :lol:

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 07:39 PM
should still be able to beat Houston without Phillips and Votto with Bailey pitching

The Rage
07-25-2012, 07:40 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_07_25_cinmlb_houmlb_1&mode=preview

Preview from MLB.com. Homer pitches well down here. The importance of quality pitching cannot be overstated IMO. If I am a small-market GM, the emphasis is on pitching first, pitching second and pitching third.

Actually it is more like pitching first, pitching second and defense 3rd. The Reds pitchers, especially Bailey have lived off the defense lately.

I suspect a "struggling" start, something like 6I 3R variety with plenty of baserunners but yet count as a "quality start".

Tuff Nut
07-25-2012, 07:55 PM
Was hoping to see Paul get another start, since the Reds are playing the AA-stros. He seems to have a nice approach at the plate, and doesn't go up there hacking, swinging at everyting close. He got 3 hits, was robbed of a 4th, and will probably not see another start. It's the fricken ASTROS for crying out loud. Give the kid some AB's.

mrherd05
07-25-2012, 07:55 PM
why the quotes around quality start?

Quality starts give teams a chance to win games.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 07:56 PM
why the quotes around quality start?

Quality starts give teams a chance to win games.

Against this team, anything less than 7I 1-2R is unacceptable aka Mat Latos.

They stink. Stink really bad. If you are letting them get 3 runs in 6 innings, you had a bad night.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 08:15 PM
why the quotes around quality start?

Quality starts give teams a chance to win games.

You have to understand that anything Rage says tonight about pitching should be taken with a grain of salt. His hate for Bailey is as chronicled as it has become illogical.

fielder's choice
07-25-2012, 08:18 PM
WTF was that Mes?

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:19 PM
Interesting to see how many runs we score with this lineup tonight. No one hitting above .244 except Frazier.

EMAW
07-25-2012, 08:20 PM
Astros home record is not bad at all, the road is deplorable 10-41

Stray
07-25-2012, 08:21 PM
that's a heck of a pitch

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 08:24 PM
2 K's for Homer to get out of it.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:24 PM
Bailey gets out unscathed

texasdave
07-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Their road record of 10-41 is on pace to be the worst of all-time.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 08:26 PM
For those who were saying that bad teams are still gonna win 1 out of 3, on the road the Astros are winning 1 out of 5.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:27 PM
I just don't understand Dusty...A right hander throwing tonight; Paul had 3 hits last night and threw out a runner at third.......tonight he's riding the pine?????????????

texasdave
07-25-2012, 08:30 PM
Bruce is turning into Johnny Gomes. Remember when Gomes started walking left and right at the beginning of 2011?

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 08:33 PM
I just don't understand Dusty...A right hander throwing tonight; Paul had 3 hits last night and threw out a runner at third.......tonight he's riding the pine?????????????

57-40. Stop trying to understand. There is nothing to get.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 08:34 PM
Anybody know the boy's record when Valdez is in the starting lineup?

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 08:35 PM
Perfect game brewing in Houston tonight for the Astros.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:37 PM
2 on; 0 out for the Stros

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 08:37 PM
I just don't understand Dusty...A right hander throwing tonight; Paul had 3 hits last night and threw out a runner at third.......tonight he's riding the pine?????????????

Baker's not big on the righty lefty thingy on offense. Me and every other MLB manager couldn't disagree more.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:38 PM
1 on, 2 out now

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 08:38 PM
Great job by Homer to avoid trouble.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:39 PM
Great job by Homer to avoid trouble.

AGAIN

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 08:40 PM
Perfect game brewing in Houston tonight for the Astros.

Correction. No hitter.

Brisco
07-25-2012, 08:40 PM
Against this team, anything less than 7I 1-2R is unacceptable aka Mat Latos.

They stink. Stink really bad. If you are letting them get 3 runs in 6 innings, you had a bad night.

The Houston Astros have scored more runs this year than: The San Diego Padres, the Oakland Athletics, the Chicago Cubs and the Miami Marlins. They have scored within 24 runs (or less than a .22 run per game difference/a difference so small to be of no statistical significance in any given matchup) of the Orioles, Rays, Royals, Pirates, Giants & Dodgers. That is ten of the 30 Major League teams that apparently stink... stink very bad... and are "AAA" lineups.

By the way, the Astros home OPS is almost 90 points higher than their away OPS. More importantly, their per game runs scored is 4.2 at home (and 3.5 on the road)... so according to the actual statistics this year, when playing at home the astros lineup is in the middle third of MLB.

I do not see how giving up three runs to this team should be considered "unacceptable".

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:43 PM
Mes sure ripped that one...our 1st hit

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:44 PM
Bailey actually looks like he knows how to bunt...unlike most of the rest of this team

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:46 PM
Cozart looked real bad there

texasdave
07-25-2012, 08:48 PM
Bailey's successful sac bunt leads to a run.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 08:48 PM
Cozart looked real bad there

im struggling to find times when he doesnt look bad on offense

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:49 PM
Stubbs bloop for a run:)

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 08:49 PM
Every once i awhile Stubbs shows what Baker sees in him.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 08:49 PM
stubbs starting to hit a little

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:52 PM
Bruce....just bad with risp

AintlifeGrande
07-25-2012, 08:53 PM
stubbs starting to hit a little

Don't say that.I said that last time and he went right back into a funk.:laugh:

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Bailey not very sharp tonight....several 3 ball counts and runners in scoring position all 3 innings.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:00 PM
Bailey making the pitches when he needs to.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:00 PM
Another DP gets Homer out of trouble

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:01 PM
Bailey not very sharp tonight....several 3 ball counts and runners in scoring position all 3 innings.

He is a notorious slow starter... if he can survive these early innings I think he will get stronger as the game progresses.

(BTW.. on reason why Bailey would never work in the pen)

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:02 PM
Cards - Dodgers 1-1; bottom 3

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Nice hard turn and hustle by Ludwig. I might have been wrong about that guy.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Ludwick singles, Rolen with lazy fly ball to right on first pitch

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:06 PM
Frazier singles...2 on, 1 out

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:07 PM
Bailey is god awful tonight. Mercy. Can a guy get any luckier?

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 09:08 PM
Bailey is god awful tonight. Mercy. Can a guy get any luckier?

Wouldnt say god awful but luckily him and Latos were going against the Stros

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Wouldnt say god awful but luckily him and Latos were going against the Stros

Really shows a lack of focus by the 2. I would want to dominate and press my will against this AA lineup. Instead, they were taking advice from the Eagles.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Sometimes I have no clue what is happening in the game by the way Cowboy describes the action.

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:13 PM
Wouldnt say god awful but luckily him and Latos were going against the Stros

God awful = 3 IP, 3 H, 2BB, 2K, 0 R, 0ER... wow are we getting spoiled by good pitching in Redsland or what.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:13 PM
Bailey is god awful tonight. Mercy. Can a guy get any luckier?

As I predicted. The Rage goes to the luck card.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:15 PM
As I predicted. The Rage goes to the luck card.

What else can you call it?

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:16 PM
What else can you call it?

Making good pitches in key moments. Like any person would that doesn't faithfully hate the guy.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
That was the luckiest 1-2-3 ever.

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
What else can you call it?

Normally double plays are the result of an excellent pitch by the pitcher... not luck.

Any time you can induce a ground ball as a pitcher, you have won that AB... even if it squirts through the infield. If its a hard line drive, the hitter won the AB, even if its caught.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
Norris with a 5.20 ERA, and we only have 3 bloop hits and a seeing eye ground ball single through 4 innings

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
Homer consistently gets stronger as the game goes on. A very nice Glavinlike quality.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:20 PM
Norris with a 5.20 ERA, and we only have 3 bloop hits and a seeing eye ground ball single through 4 innings


He's an mediocre to average right handed pitcher. We don't do that well against those types. It happens when you got 8 right handed batters in the lineup and refuse to do anything about it.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:21 PM
Norris with a 5.20 ERA, and we only have 3 bloop hits and a seeing eye ground ball single through 4 innings

And he also has 6 stikeouts

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:21 PM
Really shows a lack of focus by the 2. I would want to dominate and press my will against this AA lineup. Instead, they were taking advice from the Eagles.

If you apply the ranking of "AA" to the astros lineup while playing at home, you are stating that over a third of the major league lineups are worse than "AA".

mrherd05
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
WOW, 40yrold, rage and maker 69 surely must be Cardinal fans...right????

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:23 PM
That was the luckiest 1-2-3 ever.

Except for the two walks, pitching a nice intelligent game. That little 2nd baseman hit two good pitches. What we've been seeing from Homer lately.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:23 PM
The rage is such a joke...

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
Norris now with 7 K's through 5

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
WOW, 40yrold, rage and maker 69 surely must be Cardinal fans...right????

Im not sure why they havent banned Rage yet...

mrherd05
07-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Norris now with 7 K's through 5



Reds winning through 4 and a half.

See how easy that was? Wasnt hard at all. Try it sometime.

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 09:25 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEE

http://dc469.4shared.com/img/-JZ5Lfpk/s3/16170812-rage-gif-.gif

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Homers getting a lot of ground balls tonight...I dont think thats luck. Thats good pitching.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:31 PM
During the Lindner years we lost a lot of games to teams just as bad as this. Particularly on the road.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:32 PM
Reds 1-0 after 5; Cards tied with LA 1-1 after 5

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:32 PM
Strikeout 4 for bailey...5 scoreless innings.

Keep it up homer!

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:33 PM
And he also has 6 stikeouts

When pitching at home, Bud Norris is a very good pitcher.

We are compaining about only getting three hits through 4 innings. In his home starts, this same Norris held the vaunted Cards offense to 3 hits and one run over 6 innings DURING their hotest offensive streak.
Cubs, 5 hits and no runs over 7 innings,
Milwaukee, 4 hits and one run over 7 innings,
Colorado, 4 hits, 2 runs over 7,

His other two home starts were not great but not awful.
Cards - 7 hits, 4 runs over 6 innings
Mets - 7 hits, 3 runs over 6.2 innings.

Overall at home he is 3-1 with a 2.27 e.r.a. In half of his home starts he has given up one or zero runs.

No, I am not overly disappointed with getting 3 hits and a run against this pitcher in the first 4 innings. (the comment was made after the first 4 innings... not 5)

Meanwhile, Bailey has pitched 5 innings of shutout ball.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
2 more innings and I can breath easy. Rough night overall for Bailey though it is not showing up in the boxscore(yet). Astros just don't have the talent to make people pay for bad control.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
2 more innings and I can breath easy. Rough night overall for Bailey though it is not showing up in the boxscore(yet). Astros just don't have the talent to make people pay for bad control.

We all know that you want Bailey to lose. It's the only way you can keep this charade going.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:40 PM
Cards now 2-1 over LA, top 6

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:40 PM
Easy 6th for Norris.....

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 09:41 PM
Easy 6th for Norris.....

Reds offense pretty bad tonight

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:41 PM
Bailey at 77 pitches....maybe 8 innings tonight:thumbup:

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:41 PM
Norris is just to much tonight. Really miss Votto tonight.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:43 PM
Altuve walks.....time for another DP

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 09:43 PM
WTF? That pitch was RIGHT on the corner - strike three.

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:44 PM
Reds offense pretty bad tonight

Or Norris is pretty good tonight... please see my earlier post. He is very good at home. In half his starts at home he has given up one or less run.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 09:45 PM
here we go

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:46 PM
Another ground ball from Homer but just happens to be in a good spot. Cant blame homer.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:46 PM
WTF? That pitch was RIGHT on the corner - strike three.

Yup, bad bad call

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Gave Rolen an error...that's harsh.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:48 PM
An error? Graig Nettles couldn't have made that paly.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 09:49 PM
Probably going to get changed later in the game.

AintlifeGrande
07-25-2012, 09:49 PM
Bailey has been dancin with the devil all night.He keeps putting runners on,he will pay eventually.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Strike him out!

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
What the hell is he angry about??

Wow.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Damn, dude, you got rung up on a great pitch - shut up and sit down.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Homer does it again!

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Homer with K number 6.

When he has gotten into trouble he has either gotten a DP or a Strikeout.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 09:53 PM
amazing, thankfully this is the astros homers facing

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 09:53 PM
A start like tonight really showcases how much Homer has matured as a pitcher. Two years ago a start like this would have gone south. But tonight he has stayed composed and made big pitches when most needed.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 09:53 PM
I give Bailey credit that inning working through bad luck. The "walk" then a weak gb that found a hole.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 09:53 PM
Looking very zoned in and in control the whole time.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:53 PM
Time for some offense!

Brisco
07-25-2012, 09:54 PM
Norris is just to much tonight.

Things may change... but you do realize the Reds are actually winning at this point, right?

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 09:54 PM
amazing, thankfully this is the astros homers facing

What happened in your life that ****ed you up so much you can't give someone credit

You're not even a glass half empty guy, you're a glass empty guy

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:54 PM
Hey David Dewitt, what happened to my old buddy Homer? Gets ripped off on the no swing call, and instead of sulking about it comes right back with a great pitch.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
Ho hum. Another great starting effort. :)

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
I think the powers that be ought to make some of you folks "opt in" here. :)

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 09:56 PM
What happened in your life that ****ed you up so much you can't give someone credit

You're not even a glass half empty guy, you're a glass empty guy

I am giving him credit but im also being factual. You have some serious issues if you freak out over what someone says on an internet message board

R_Webb18
07-25-2012, 09:57 PM
mlb network said bailey said something right after.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Ho hum. Another great starting effort. :)

if our offense would just help out some

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
I am giving him credit but im also being factual. You have some serious issues if you freak out over what someone says on an internet message board

Factual?? How about the fact that he is striking guys out or getting guys to ground in to double plays every time he gets in trouble.

And it aint just the stros. He has done that way more often then not this season.


People are still pissed that homer didnt pan out when he was 24, but now he is 26 (I think) and turning into a damn good pitcher. Give the kid a break.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:00 PM
Good try by Homer but no cigar. Still a long way to go.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:01 PM
Dodgers and Cards tied now at 2 apiece through 6.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:02 PM
No Votto or Phillips shows

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:03 PM
No Votto or Phillips shows

They are the only 2 consistent guys in the lineup...not surprising.


If we can find a way to win without them though its pretty impressive. Hopefully we pitch a shutout!

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:03 PM
No Votto or Phillips shows

I recall plenty of efforts like this with Votto and Phillips in the lineup. Lack of left handed hitting. Not to say we don't really miss these guys.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:07 PM
Only 1 run through 8 innings last night and 1 run through 7 tonight........only 5 runs scored total through the first 6 innings of each game this series.....it's like our hitters are asleep until the 7th or 8th inning of each game....sure doesn't make it easy on the pitchers

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:09 PM
Only run of the game aided greatly by Bailey's bunt sacrifice. Just sayin'.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:09 PM
What has gotten into the Oakland Athletics?

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Astros have had more baserunners (9; 4 hits, 4 walks, 1 error) than we have had tonight
(6;5 hits, 1 walk)

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Bailey up to 107 pitches.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Only run of the game aided greatly by Bailey's bunt sacrifice. Just sayin'.

What? Bunting is important? Couldn't fool me the way we bunt.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Bailey up to 107 pitches.

Ondrusek warming per the Astros commentators.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:11 PM
If they turned down Victorino for Ondrusek, they made a mistake.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:12 PM
Come on Homer, 1 more out!

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:12 PM
We're in deep stuff now!

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Nice.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Great game homer...way to work out of trouble!

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Nice play from Valdez.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Great game homer...way to work out of trouble!

YES

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
What has gotten into the Oakland Athletics?

Playing great ball out west that's for sure.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Another great effort tonight from Homer.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Lucky.........I can rest for now........until Ondrusek comes in and shows his stuff......

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Who would you bring in to pitch the 8th?

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Lucky.........I can rest for now........until Ondrusek comes in and shows his stuff......

Tell me what was lucky? That he made good pitches to get out of jams?

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Is Chapman available tonight?

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Great game homer...way to work out of trouble!

In the words of RAGE...he's the luckiest guy ever.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Tell me what was lucky? That he made good pitches to get out of jams?

5 walks is lucky. Lucky he was going against the stros and they couldn't hit out of a wet paper bag.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:18 PM
Nuke LaLooshed that last pitch.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:18 PM
Lucky.........I can rest for now........until Ondrusek comes in and shows his stuff......

Posts like this are exactly why Sun Deck is treated like a second rate board. Just ignorant.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:18 PM
OK Stubbs, Patience

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
Is Chapman available tonight?

With an off day tomorrow I'd assume he is available.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
Posts like this are exactly why Sun Deck is treated like a second rate board. Just ignorant.

It is a 2nd rate board. It is leaning back, drinking beer type of board. Put it all together and the types of posts I make change.

Stray
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
how was that an out?

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
5 walks is lucky. Lucky he was going against the stros and they couldn't hit out of a wet paper bag.

Last 5 starts...

8 IP 2 ER 7K vs LAD
6.2 IP 2 ER 8K vs SD
8 IP 1 ER 2K vs STL
8 IP 1 ER 10K vs MIL
7 IP 0 ER 7K vs HOU


STFU

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
how was that an out?

i was thinking the same thing??

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Can we make Bailey our designated bunter?

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Umpiring in the age of Bud lite.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
It is a 2nd rate board. It is leaning back, drinking beer type of board. Put it all together and the types of posts I make change.

No they won't. You're history shows that.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
how was that an out?

Only in the umps mind - Dusty should be howling about this one!

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:23 PM
Only in the umps mind - Dusty should be howling about this one!

Umps have been junk tonight. Every break just about goes the Astros way. Not that it has helped much.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:23 PM
What will Bruce do here? I would pinch hit Phillips here.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:24 PM
If they bring in Xavier Cedeno we need to counter with Xavier Paul. X-man versus X-man.

Too late. XC is taking a seat already.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Last 5 starts...

8 IP 2 ER 7K vs LAD
6.2 IP 2 ER 8K vs SD
8 IP 1 ER 2K vs STL
8 IP 1 ER 10K vs MIL
7 IP 0 ER 7K vs HOU


STFU

34 K's in the last 5 starts and that clown claimed earlier that Bailey is too reliant on the defense. It's unfortunate that those who want to talk baseball have to deal with crap like his.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
OMG, Bruce gets a hit to left field

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Dusty's up in the club house looking for his box of toothpicks.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
I get this feeling Ludwick is going to find those Crawford Boxes.

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:26 PM
I get this feeling Ludwick is going to find those Crawford Boxes.

Not sure you can call a shot two nights in a row. :thumbup:

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:27 PM
Joey Votto would hit 40 plus home runs with that short left-field porch.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:28 PM
Cards & Dodgers still tied at 2, top 8. Harang with only 2 hits allowed and 8 K's.
Hanley 2 for 3 with 1 rbi

Kcbuckeye22
07-25-2012, 10:28 PM
Joey Votto would hit 40 plus home runs with that short left-field porch.

Before the all star break!

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:29 PM
With all respect to Ironman.....fast.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Ludstick has to make contact here.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:29 PM
double steal...2 in scoring position

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Looks like they are going to walk him to load the bases.

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:30 PM
I like the way Baker puts pressure on against a so so catcher.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:31 PM
Rolen's turn to show us he still has something left

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:31 PM
I like the way Baker puts pressure on against a so so catcher.

And takes the bat out of Ludwick's hands. Not sure if I agree with that move. Maybe Rolen will make it pay.

buckeyeboy
07-25-2012, 10:31 PM
Double steal. Bunts. Who are these guys?

Falcon7
07-25-2012, 10:31 PM
Only in the umps mind - Dusty should be howling about this one!

Sick of the auto-matic call! That was not an out, PERIOD!
Of course Welsh thought it was the correct call...

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:32 PM
Rolen did make it pay.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:32 PM
Damn...the third base coach has been bad lately.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Mark Berry = facepalm

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Sick of the auto-matic call! That was not an out, PERIOD!
Of course Welsh thought it was the correct call...

Hate that too - got to get rid of that. Just cause he's close doesn't mean he would have actually been able to touch the base!

Stray
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
wtf is up with our slides in this series? they have been so bad haha

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Bogusevic was a first-round draft choice as a pitcher. He has an arm.

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
Bruce needs to start working out with SEC football teams

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:34 PM
That extra run may be critical

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:34 PM
Bruce needs to start working out with SEC football teams

He'd probably be paid more if he did.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:34 PM
With 1 out I think you gotta hold bruce...but I guess it did take a pretty good throw.

40YrRedsFan
07-25-2012, 10:35 PM
One run out of all that...better than nothing but should have been more; but we've seen that show many times before.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:35 PM
Why does Mark Berry hate Jay Bruce?

Mutaman
07-25-2012, 10:36 PM
Damn...the third base coach has been bad lately.

Please. Wilson Valdez explained this the other night. They have to make 3 decent plays. Pick the ball up, make the right throw, and the catcher has to make the catch and apply the tag. Sometimes you have to make them do that and sometimes they do. No reason to second guess. It was the right call.

RiverRat13
07-25-2012, 10:36 PM
It was a nice play on Bruce. Can't really fault Berry there.

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:36 PM
With 1 out I think you gotta hold bruce...but I guess it did take a pretty good throw.

Got no problem with trying to push for another run since it was going to take a really good throw.

Credit to Bogusevic for making that throw.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:37 PM
Please. Wilson Valdez explained this the other night. They have to make 3 decent plays. Pick the ball up, make the right throw, and the catcher has to make the catch and apply the tag. Sometimes you have to make them do that and sometimes they do. No reason to second guess. It was the right call.

Yeah I mean I dont think it was a terrible decision. But at the end of the day, he has sent runners at least 3 times lately to get gunned out at home. And hes held guys up at least once or twice he shoulda sent.

Im not that worried though.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:37 PM
It was a nice play on Bruce. Can't really fault Berry there.

If that was the first time, no. But he's gotten more guys hosed this year than I can ever remember from a 3BC.

Ironman92
07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
Bailey making the pitches when he needs to.

Difference in winning and losing this...and many other games.

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
Didn't take Ondro long. No hard hit balls all night to that guy shows up.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
Bogusevic has made 108 (counting tonight) starts and has 14 (counting tonight) assists. Sometimes you have to know who is out there picking that ball up and firing it plateward.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
Tattoo from Fantasy Island is trying to join my Reds Unretirable List.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:39 PM
Jeeze take ondrusek out. 2 hardest hit balls of the game.

Falcon7
07-25-2012, 10:41 PM
Jeeze take ondrusek out. 2 hardest hit balls of the game.

Yea, not much on those pitches...

Ironman92
07-25-2012, 10:41 PM
Joey Votto would hit 40 plus home runs with that short left-field porch.

Joey Votto would get walked 200 times a season on that team.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:42 PM
Old Man Rivers snags the line drive.

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 10:42 PM
ROLO

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:42 PM
Scott fricking Rolen

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Scotty has lost a step left and right but not up and down!

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Ondrusek fooling absolutely nobody.

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Now would be Chap time

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Take him out now before they tie it up

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
This team defense makes these pitchers look better than they are. Bailey isn't a top pitcher, but Ondro is just awful. Jocketty should trade him in a package for another power arm in the pen. Guy is just awful. He makes Bailey look like a superstar.

Falcon7
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Looked like about a 16" vertical, good thing he's 6'4".

GoReds19
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Take him out now before they tie it up

Or worse...

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Batting practice vs. Ondrusek. That run Berry cost us looming larger now.

Stray
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Ondrusek's trying to give this one away

FloridaBuckeye
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Well at least we know their closer situation if we cant get out of this one... haha

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Ondrusek fooling absolutely nobody.

if he does not improve, does he make the playoff roster? Me says NO

osuredleg24
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
So glad we didn't trade Logan to the Phillies

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Incredible. Unbelievable.

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
LOL

Falcon7
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
WTH!!!!!!!!!

Who Dey Time
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Why do that???

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
Omg just perfect

Spider Tre
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
SMH

GoReds19
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
Wow.....

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
thank you Frazer...nice throw...

osuredleg24
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
awesome, spectacular,

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
Coco gives us hope.

FloridaBuckeye
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
Well at least we know their closer situation if we cant get out of this one... haha

CoCo time!!??!

PumpFak3First
07-25-2012, 10:47 PM
Rage dancing in his living room

Joesh
07-25-2012, 10:47 PM
LOL

osuredleg24
07-25-2012, 10:47 PM
Any team want Logan still?

Maker_84
07-25-2012, 10:47 PM
Little late to go to the bullpen now. Tonights game looks like it offset last nights game

GoReds19
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Are we the only ones who could see that Logan didnt have anything? The only two outs he got took great plays....

Tadasimha
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Rage dancing in his living room

He'll be able to spin the fact that Homer didn't get the win into "proof" Bailey isn't a good pitcher.

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
I'm a true believer in the law of averages....we were due....:(

wvreds
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Bet Philly dosent want him now, and once again another Frazier blunder

Jefferson24
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
looks like good fortune just left the building

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Arredondo must be hurt. Right?

RedsFanInBama
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
What a failure of an inning. Logan hasn't been good since May, and Dusty leaving him in to face the lefty was inexcusable. Why is Marshall on the team if not to come in for a lefty in the eighth inning? As for that last play, embarrassing.

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:49 PM
Cordero warming up. Yes!

RedsFanInBama
07-25-2012, 10:49 PM
And Chris Welsh, please don't say again how solid Mes is behind the plate. The guy is a train wreck back there.

Jefferson24
07-25-2012, 10:49 PM
4 errors!

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:50 PM
I am dangerous to be around right now.........somebody could get hurt.

Walt, find us another high leverage arm for the pen. Ondrusek is a deadman.

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
What a failure of an inning. Logan hasn't been good since May, and Dusty leaving him in to face the lefty was inexcusable. Why is Marshall on the team if not to come in for a lefty in the eighth inning? As for that last play, embarrassing.

Totally agree....Dusty being Dusty...trying to give a struggling pitcher a confidence boost. Now he has worse confidence and we could of blew the game.

RedsFanInBama
07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
Good job Marshall. Should have been in three batters earlier.

Votto4MVP
07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
I am dangerous to be around right now.........somebody could get hurt.

Walt, find us another high leverage arm for the pen. Ondrusek is a deadman.


Need Massett to come back healthy. Badly.

Kingspoint
07-25-2012, 10:52 PM
Need Massett to come back healthy. Badly.
Yes. But, it's still probably several weeks away.

GoReds19
07-25-2012, 10:52 PM
This team defense makes these pitchers look better than they are. Bailey isn't a top pitcher, but Ondro is just awful. Jocketty should trade him in a package for another power arm in the pen. Guy is just awful. He makes Bailey look like a superstar.

I don't understand why you havent been banned yet.

wvreds
07-25-2012, 10:52 PM
Ondrusek is obviously the weakest pitcher on this team

The Rage
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Starter give up very little hard it balls over 7 shutout innings and then the reliever gets smashed for 3 doubles that could have been more.

Dusty sits and watches a loss. Just awful.

BluegrassRedleg
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Geezus, what was Ludwick doing on that throw? Didn't realize it was quite that bad until they showed the additional replay.

Total breakdown there, and Frazier's gotta hold on to that ball.

RedsFanInBama
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Good lord. Where was Ludwick throwing that ball?

George Foster
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
Yes. But, it's still probably several weeks away.

at least....he is just now starting to throw off a mound.

Stray
07-25-2012, 10:54 PM
Lol Coco

texasdave
07-25-2012, 10:54 PM
Paul doubles to right to lead things off.