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Vottomatic
07-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Any chance this kid gets promoted to Dayton soon? Isn't their third baseman struggling?

Superdude
07-28-2012, 04:17 PM
Isn't their third baseman struggling?

Very yes.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=570616

krm1580
07-31-2012, 11:08 AM
Has anybody seen him or have a scouting report on him? Just looking at his ASU career numbers spanning 3 seasons and over 700 plate appearances he looks like a complete Judy with 2 HRs.

I know Billings helps inflate offensive numbers, but he is already at 5 HRs over 92 PAs to go along with his .395 average. What is the story, legit bat or Judy that has run into a few?

Scrap Irony
07-31-2012, 12:15 PM
No one's sure. At Arizona, he supposedly showed a good amount of power in batting practice, but never in games. I believe he's playing below his true level, perhaps in order to gain confidence in a tweak of his swing. The combination of Pioneer League, lower level, and confidence likely mean he's playing above his head, at least a little.

Edd Roush
12-09-2013, 09:16 AM
There might be another Seth Mejias-Brean thread out there, but this is the first one I saw when I did a quick search.

I talked to Seth at RedsFest on Saturday and I asked him how the conversion to catching was going. He said that only lasted a couple weeks and that is over. I followed up to ask him where he would be playing this year, first or third base and he said he hoped third base. I think Seth takes pride in his defense and he has been pretty good at third base in the past.

I just wanted to update RedsZone on this development in case it had not been posted in the past.

HokieRed
12-09-2013, 11:25 AM
Thanks, Edd Roush. Personally I'm glad that SMB's catching career is over and I hope he plays 3b this year, obviously his eventual position in Cinti, where I hope he takes over ASAP.

Chuckie
12-17-2013, 10:55 AM
I had forgotten about the catching experiment with SMB. Glad he's staying at 3B because I think he could be a keeper there.

Old school 1983
12-17-2013, 12:52 PM
I had forgotten about the catching experiment with SMB. Glad he's staying at 3B because I think he could be a keeper there.

Agreed. Also the more I hear about this guy, the more I like him.

corkedbat
12-20-2013, 10:19 PM
Agreed. Also the more I hear about this guy, the more I like him.

I actually think 3B is more of a near-term (3-5 years) need for the Reds than catcher. The Reds have a young Mes backed by Pena (of a year or two) and Barnhardt waiting in the wings and two or three interesting lower-level prospect that may fill in behind Tucker.

Frazier still has mileage on him at third, but other than SMB I'm not too thrilled with anyone on the farm at the hard corner - with the possible exception of Kevin Franklin (and he's 4 or 5 years away - if he sticks at 3rd).

Old school 1983
12-20-2013, 10:57 PM
I actually think 3B is more of a near-term (3-5 years) need for the Reds than catcher. The Reds have a young Mes backed by Pena (of a year or two) and Barnhardt waiting in the wings and two or three interesting lower-level prospect that may fill in behind Tucker.

Frazier still has mileage on him at third, but other than SMB I'm not too thrilled with anyone on the farm at the hard corner - with the possible exception of Kevin Franklin (and he's 4 or 5 years away - if he sticks at 3rd).

Agreed

Benihana
12-20-2013, 11:58 PM
I actually think 3B is more of a near-term (3-5 years) need for the Reds than catcher. The Reds have a young Mes backed by Pena (of a year or two) and Barnhardt waiting in the wings and two or three interesting lower-level prospect that may fill in behind Tucker.

Frazier still has mileage on him at third, but other than SMB I'm not too thrilled with anyone on the farm at the hard corner - with the possible exception of Kevin Franklin (and he's 4 or 5 years away - if he sticks at 3rd).

That's fair, but I wouldn't write off Tanner Rahier either.

corkedbat
12-21-2013, 01:33 AM
That's fair, but I wouldn't write off Tanner Rahier either.

Really hope your right about Rahier, but save for a strong couple of weeks at the beginning of his career, I haven't seen much. It will take a huge breakout season to get him back on the radar, IMO, but I'm pulling for him. :)

RedlegJake
12-21-2013, 11:41 AM
Yeah, I've about given up on Rahier. Unless he breaks out in 2014 he's another pick that fizzled. It happens to the best of them. Gelalich has been another disappointment. Franklin may come around yet - I don't know if he'll ever be selective enough, though. Thing about Franklin is the power potential is enormous so he needs to get every chance.

mth123
12-21-2013, 12:21 PM
So, where does SMB play in 2014? I hope he plays 3B in AA to start the season. I hope the existence of guys like David Vidal and Travis Mattair doesn't keep him out of position or at too low a level like it did in 2013. SMB seems to be a legit prospect. No reason to push him aside for guys who look like filler.

HokieRed
12-21-2013, 12:42 PM
So, where does SMB play in 2014? I hope he plays 3B in AA to start the season. I hope the existence of guys like David Vidal and Travis Mattair doesn't keep him out of position or at too low a level like it did in 2013. SMB seems to be a legit prospect. No reason to push him aside for guys who look like filler.

Absolutely. Time to prioritize SMB's development.

Edd Roush
12-23-2013, 10:41 AM
Yeah, I've about given up on Rahier. Unless he breaks out in 2014 he's another pick that fizzled. It happens to the best of them. Gelalich has been another disappointment. Franklin may come around yet - I don't know if he'll ever be selective enough, though. Thing about Franklin is the power potential is enormous so he needs to get every chance.

Rahier was a 19 year old in A ball last year. I give him a pass. The Reds love his glove and power potential, which is why he was prioritized over SMB in 2013. I think Rahier should repeat A ball next year and get most of the PAs at 3B in 2014. Way too early to write him off.

Edd Roush
12-23-2013, 10:48 AM
So, where does SMB play in 2014? I hope he plays 3B in AA to start the season. I hope the existence of guys like David Vidal and Travis Mattair doesn't keep him out of position or at too low a level like it did in 2013. SMB seems to be a legit prospect. No reason to push him aside for guys who look like filler.

I would not be too upset if the Reds started SMB in Bakersfield next year. Remember, he only got 13 PAs in the California League last year. I also would not be upset if SMB was started in Pensacola next year.

I actually am leaning towards wanting the Reds to start SMB in Bakersfield next year, because I do not want the Reds to rush SMB and ruin his confidence, which could have been the case with Vidal. I think a half year of the California league makes sense for SMB.

Letting SMB have a half year in Bakersfield also gives Vidal one more chance to get it together. If SMB is lighting up the California league after 300 PAs, I would still not hold him back if Vidal is showing life, but 300 PAs in Pensacola could be enough to get Vidal's career back on track.

corkedbat
12-23-2013, 08:52 PM
Rahier was a 19 year old in A ball last year. I give him a pass. The Reds love his glove and power potential, which is why he was prioritized over SMB in 2013. I think Rahier should repeat A ball next year and get most of the PAs at 3B in 2014. Way too early to write him off.

Not giving up on Rahier at all, just not counting him among the Reds top prospects. He's got a lot to show. IMO, SMB is the only third baseman even halfway on the radar. I'd love to see them add a prospect this offseason.

Two of the Phils top young guys are third sackers (Cody Asche & Maikel Franco). I'd love to see the Reds swing a deal for on of them or Miguel Sano. I know that it won't happen though so I'd like to see one of the top five or so picks on high-ceiling 3B (along with a couple of big arms and a couple of offensively projectable MI's).

The cycle of choosing a steady stream of OF's with a 4th-outfielder ceiling may have ended last year. Now if they can just turn of the flow of top 10 ten picks used on MI's with little-to-no offensive future.

Edd Roush
12-24-2013, 10:02 AM
Not giving up on Rahier at all, just not counting him among the Reds top prospects. He's got a lot to show. IMO, SMB is the only third baseman even halfway on the radar. I'd love to see them add a prospect this offseason.

Two of the Phils top young guys are third sackers (Cody Asche & Maikel Franco). I'd love to see the Reds swing a deal for on of them or Miguel Sano. I know that it won't happen though so I'd like to see one of the top five or so picks on high-ceiling 3B (along with a couple of big arms and a couple of offensively projectable MI's).

The cycle of choosing a steady stream of OF's with a 4th-outfielder ceiling may have ended last year. Now if they can just turn of the flow of top 10 ten picks used on MI's with little-to-no offensive future.

It doesn't make sense to me to have the Reds trade a major piece (which a top-tier 3B prospect would require) to get a guy who is blocked by a solid, young 3B at the major league level. All of the guys you mention have a chance to better players than Frazier, but it is far from a lock of that being the case.

I also think the Reds should look to win now before Homer is gone and a lot of other good young players are a year closer to FA. If the Reds are going to move a major piece, I want it to benefit the 2014 Reds and not a future version.

corkedbat
01-13-2014, 01:37 PM
Just notice that SMB is the oldest in the Top 10 of the RZ prospect list at 23 and below AA. Not saying its anything bad or comparing him to Methuselah or anything, but do you think we might see them move him aggressively the next couple of years?

RedlegJake
01-13-2014, 02:11 PM
Just notice that SMB is the oldest in the Top 10 of the RZ prospect list at 23 and below AA. Not saying its anything bad or comparing him to Methuselah or anything, but do you think we might see them move him aggressively the next couple of years?

I think he needs to be solidly settled at AA at least by years end. Not just there but doing well there.