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brm7675
07-29-2012, 09:25 PM
Well looks like Brandon did something to his knee..it will be interesting to see if or how the Reds and medical staff handles it over how they did with Votto.

mattfeet
07-29-2012, 09:25 PM
Yep, he has calf cramps. Sounds pretty serious...

BurgervilleBuck
07-29-2012, 09:29 PM
Yep, he has calf cramps. Sounds pretty serious...

Leg cramps are hard to come back from, I've heard.

Maker_84
07-29-2012, 09:43 PM
is everyone serious in this thread or being sarcastic? muscle cramps aren't gonna keep him out any games unless they somehow suspect it's something more

brm7675
07-29-2012, 09:43 PM
Well I sure hope they dont take Brandons word for what it is.

R_Webb18
07-29-2012, 09:44 PM
Well I sure hope they dont take Brandons word for what it is.

why?

R_Webb18
07-29-2012, 09:45 PM
you act like they didn't do test without a machines. they didn't get an mri we get it but it's not like they didn't try other methods

mattfeet
07-29-2012, 09:48 PM
is everyone serious in this thread or being sarcastic? muscle cramps aren't gonna keep him out any games unless they somehow suspect it's something more

I was being sarcastic.

Maker_84
07-29-2012, 09:51 PM
I was being sarcastic.

ok good, losing another player to injury would be devastating

brm7675
07-29-2012, 10:03 PM
why?


A. Players lie
B. Brandon isn't a doctor
C. See A

R_Webb18
07-29-2012, 10:07 PM
just b/c votto played thru his problem does not mean he lied.

Pony Boy
07-29-2012, 10:34 PM
I like how people act like the Reds medical staff doesn't know what they are doing. They might have the best medical staff in all of baseball. Players from other teams go to Kremchek to be operated on.

OldCat
07-30-2012, 12:04 AM
I like how people act like the Reds medical staff doesn't know what they are doing. They might have the best medical staff in all of baseball. Players from other teams go to Kremchek to be operated on.


Maybe other teams just hate their players.

OGB
07-30-2012, 12:11 AM
Maybe other teams just hate their players.

:D
cheers for the laugh

I agree with the overall sentiment of posters in this thread. Phillips wouldn't lie to stay on the field. He's going to honestly tell them how much discomfort he is experiencing, they will do a variety of tests and what not to determine what might be wrong/what his range of motion is/etc., and they will apply their vast medical knowledge accumulated through years of schooling to recommend whether he needs to sit and how long.

brm7675
07-30-2012, 12:32 AM
:D
cheers for the laugh

I agree with the overall sentiment of posters in this thread. Phillips wouldn't lie to stay on the field. He's going to honestly tell them how much discomfort he is experiencing, they will do a variety of tests and what not to determine what might be wrong/what his range of motion is/etc., and they will apply their vast medical knowledge accumulated through years of schooling to recommend whether he needs to sit and how long.

Players lie all the time about injuries. From HS level to pro, that is why you have hopefully well trained medical staffs.

brm7675
07-30-2012, 12:33 AM
just b/c votto played thru his problem does not mean he lied.

What would you call it then?

R_Webb18
07-30-2012, 12:38 AM
What would you call it then?

i would call it not as bad as he thought or it just got worse

OldCat
07-30-2012, 01:01 AM
What would you call it then?

Well, he could have had an exam, and the doctors said that there would be no harm for him to play in the key games before the break and be able to attend an all star game as a starter.

So Joey did.

bigredmechanism
07-30-2012, 01:48 AM
I know I always go to the experts on message boards instead of those quacks who went to college for it...

brm7675
07-30-2012, 12:34 PM
Well, he could have had an exam, and the doctors said that there would be no harm for him to play in the key games before the break and be able to attend an all star game as a starter.

So Joey did.

that's my point, I think Joey undersold how sever the pain was and possible injury because like all players, they want to play. I believe HE and in this case Brandon will not be forthcoming fully on the extent. A top dodgers pitcher I believe was put on the DL only after the team forced him to get looked at because he kept telling them nothing was wrong. I don't blame the players for lieing, it's in their DNA to play through pain, that is why you need a strong GM/Manager whom looks out for the teams best interest.

R_Webb18
07-30-2012, 12:40 PM
im glad to hear you know it all

dubc47834
07-30-2012, 01:02 PM
that's my point, I think Joey undersold how sever the pain was and possible injury because like all players, they want to play. I believe HE and in this case Brandon will not be forthcoming fully on the extent. A top dodgers pitcher I believe was put on the DL only after the team forced him to get looked at because he kept telling them nothing was wrong. I don't blame the players for lieing, it's in their DNA to play through pain, that is why you need a strong GM/Manager whom looks out for the teams best interest.

Those kind of decisions, MRI's and such, would be the medical staff. Not usually the GM/Manager.

P.E.R#14
07-30-2012, 01:02 PM
Votto had never been injured before this injury. He very easily could have thought it was a jammed knee, or just fatigue.

Go Reds!! Best record in baseball!!

Jefferson24
07-30-2012, 01:13 PM
just b/c votto played thru his problem does not mean he lied.

I think he knew the whole time or at least early on and calculated with input from management as to when the best time for a break would be.

brm7675
07-30-2012, 01:46 PM
Those kind of decisions, MRI's and such, would be the medical staff. Not usually the GM/Manager.

I would hope not, I would hope the GM determines based off what the medical staff said, but even if they said they don't think it's necessary the GM would look at the costs..

dubc47834
07-30-2012, 01:55 PM
I would hope not, I would hope the GM determines based off what the medical staff said, but even if they said they don't think it's necessary the GM would look at the costs..

Soooo, let me get this straight. The GM knows more than the medical staff...why do they even go to med school then, they could just be a GM when they grow up!!!! Come on man!!!!

The_Mudshark
07-30-2012, 02:17 PM
:deadhorse:

brm7675
07-30-2012, 02:57 PM
Soooo, let me get this straight. The GM knows more than the medical staff...why do they even go to med school then, they could just be a GM when they grow up!!!! Come on man!!!!

No, but the GM has the final call and I would hope would error on the side of being extra cautious. Again better to double check then risk in my opinion.

Krawhitham
07-30-2012, 04:18 PM
#RealTalk... Not gonna lie, but my body feels WEIRD as HELL but GREAT at the #SameDamnTime! Must've been that #Limitless pill last nighthttps://twitter.com/DatDudeBP/status/230018785703235584

R_Webb18
08-01-2012, 12:44 AM
ok brm you are right.

brm7675
08-01-2012, 01:20 AM
ok brm you are right.

I wish I wasn't...Bob needs to clean house of trainers, doctors and such...

joshua
08-01-2012, 04:27 AM
I deal with doctors who can narrow down symptoms to a certain uncommon infectious disease, and then turn around and prescribe an antibiotic that doesn't do anything to treat it. Stuff like that is not uncommon in medicine...at all. It's why doctors work in teams, contact each other for recommendations etc. Kremchek may be an amazing surgeon, but he's obviously not the best at diagnosis.

Ironman92
08-01-2012, 07:13 AM
I have to blame the traveling secretary.....and the grounds crew is killing this team with regularity. And the bullpen coach sucks.