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cinreds21
07-31-2012, 05:19 PM
Not surprised at all.

Tom Servo
07-31-2012, 05:19 PM
Jeez, I totally forgot he was on the 40 man.

mattfeet
07-31-2012, 05:25 PM
Jeez, I totally forgot he was on the 40 man.

Same here

Team Clark
07-31-2012, 05:26 PM
Very sad in a away. When i had Andrew he was lights out and had very good, measured mechanics. NC State really screwed him up and the Yankees gave him some really goofy ideas before he made it to the big leagues. Now he is basically screwed. Hope he stays in the minors and works his way back as a reliever.

Gallen5862
07-31-2012, 07:45 PM
I am hoping he clears waivers. That way he could still be given a chance to develope in the minors.

dougdirt
07-31-2012, 07:52 PM
I am hoping he clears waivers. That way he could still be given a chance to develope in the minors.

Having struggles in High A at age 26..... I can't imagine him not clearing waivers.

Edd Roush
08-05-2012, 11:08 AM
I spoke to someone close to Drew last night and the person swears that Drew has been hitting 97 on the gun in Bakersfield. That fact doesn't apparently seem to be helping him too much since he still isn't pitching particularly well in Bakersfield. I kind of hope they would let him pitch out of the pen in Pensacola so he can have a giant stadium behind him to build up his confidence.

dougdirt
08-05-2012, 11:48 AM
To be fair, Brackman has been ok as a reliever in Bakersfield.



Bakersfield ERA IP H HR BB SO

Reliever 3.97 22.2 20 4 7 17
Starter 6.75 12 14 0 11 9

Edd Roush
08-05-2012, 02:56 PM
To be fair, Brackman has been ok as a reliever in Bakersfield.



Bakersfield ERA IP H HR BB SO

Reliever 3.97 22.2 20 4 7 17
Starter 6.75 12 14 0 11 9


Thanks for the stats, doug. Hopefully that HR rate will normalize over a larger sample size. I wonder if the Reds would consider letting Drew throw his knuckle curve again. The Yankees told him to stop throwing it due to damage to his arm, but now that he needs something to kickstart his career, I would think he should risk it for better results. It was a pretty nasty pitch in high school and college.

Team Clark
08-05-2012, 03:52 PM
He's been between 94-97 at Bakersfield for awhile now. They are doing a good job of getting him straightened out. He's getting closer to having a consistent, repeatable delivery. Rigo Beltran has done an absolutely stellar job in Bakersfield this year as pitching coach.

Vottomatic
08-05-2012, 04:03 PM
Brackman lacks control. We have better prospects to spend time on.

dougdirt
08-05-2012, 04:09 PM
Randy Johnson walked 6 guys per 9 innings through his age 28 season. He went on to win 4 Cy Young Awards after that. You don't just quit on big arms.

Vottomatic
08-05-2012, 04:15 PM
Randy Johnson walked 6 guys per 9 innings through his age 28 season. He went on to win 4 Cy Young Awards after that. You don't just quit on big arms.

The Reds did.

I'll trust their opinion.

edabbs44
08-05-2012, 04:24 PM
Randy Johnson walked 6 guys per 9 innings through his age 28 season. He went on to win 4 Cy Young Awards after that. You don't just quit on big arms.

I wouldn't use Randy Johnson as a case study on why you shouldn't give up on big arms.

cincrazy
08-05-2012, 06:33 PM
Randy Johnson walked 6 guys per 9 innings through his age 28 season. He went on to win 4 Cy Young Awards after that. You don't just quit on big arms.

Lol Randy Johnson wasn't pitching in Class A at 26 either. He was striking out almost 8 guys per 9 innings, so he at least showed enough in the bigs to not give up on, despite his wildness.

Edd Roush
08-05-2012, 08:31 PM
The Reds did.

I'll trust their opinion.

The Reds most definitely have not given up on Drew. They are working on getting him back to being the same pitcher he was before Tommy John surgery. I would not call him a future Randy Johnson nor stick a fork in him.

Vottomatic
08-05-2012, 08:34 PM
Well, if he cleared waivers, that tells you what 29 other teams think of him.

Edd Roush
08-05-2012, 08:42 PM
Well, if he cleared waivers, that tells you what 29 other teams think of him.

It tells you that 29 other teams don't want to carry him on their 40 man roster. Drew is not likely to make an impact this year, or maybe ever. But it does not mean that the Reds quit on him.

dougdirt
08-05-2012, 09:23 PM
The Reds did.

I'll trust their opinion.

No, they didn't. If they gave up on him, he wouldn't be here still. They would have cut him. But they didn't.

And in no way am I saying he is Randy Johnson, or anything like it. Just that there is a reason teams don't give up on big time arms, even ones that struggle with control.

Vottomatic
08-05-2012, 09:47 PM
No, they didn't. If they gave up on him, he wouldn't be here still. They would have cut him. But they didn't.

And in no way am I saying he is Randy Johnson, or anything like it. Just that there is a reason teams don't give up on big time arms, even ones that struggle with control.

And I'm just saying they put him through waivers. But I think the writing is on the wall. Dude is getting old and they got better arms to work with.

dougdirt
08-06-2012, 12:24 AM
And I'm just saying they put him through waivers. But I think the writing is on the wall. Dude is getting old and they got better arms to work with.

In terms of pure arms, there aren't 10 better arms in the system. If he can figure out how to repeat his mechanics better, he could be a legit Major League arm.

Team Clark
08-06-2012, 12:26 AM
Expect Andrew to be moved up again within 10 IP, provided he still is showing progress. He's on schedule for what they are asking of him.

kaldaniels
08-06-2012, 12:45 AM
I don't see any writing on the wall, though in reality the odds are stacked against Brackman at this time. This was simply a case of easily clearing a spot on the 40 man. Brackman's future within the organization probably hasn't changed one bit within the past few days.