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RedsFanInBama
08-05-2012, 01:57 AM
How about that catch tonight? I know he's just a rookie, but I think he's one of the best baseball players I've ever seen.

Mr.Redleg82
08-05-2012, 02:46 AM
How about that catch tonight? I know he's just a rookie, but I think he's one of the best baseball players I've ever seen.

Agreed, no one can argue with that. He's been very impressive, let's hope there's no sophomore slump.


Edit: a slumps ok when he plays against the reds

Spider Tre
08-05-2012, 02:50 AM
i just checked his stat line on ESPN. batting .349, 19 home runs (on pace for 29), and 33 steals while only being caught 3 times (on pace for 50/5)

the guy's got a serious chance of winning both ROTY and MVP

[deleted]
08-05-2012, 06:00 AM
He's the easy choice for MVP at this point. I don't think there are many other players even close. Cano? Hamilton's been so cold. Trout is putting together a historic season. We may literally be seeing the best rookie year of all-time.

RedsFanInBama
08-05-2012, 11:19 AM
I definitely see a 40/40 season in his future.

Redlegs Homer
08-05-2012, 11:41 AM
He should be the unanimous AL MVP.

drowg14
08-05-2012, 12:03 PM
So the question is, who would you rather have going forward. Trout or Harper.

I'd go Trout. Dude is a beast.

R_Webb18
08-05-2012, 12:06 PM
to me its not even close. i go with trout b/c i now know what he's capable of. harper could end up being better but the safer choice seems to be trout.

jback76
08-05-2012, 12:12 PM
He should be the unanimous AL MVP.

Well at least the 2/3 of the season MVP. Most teams have between 53-56 games remaining, a lot can change in that amount of time.

big boy
08-05-2012, 12:21 PM
Why didn't the Angels have him on the team on opening day?

drowg14
08-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Why didn't the Angels have him on the team on opening day?

They didn't want to get rid of their bloated OF payroll. So they were trying to find trade partners instead of eating a contract. Wells I think.

Ironman92
08-05-2012, 01:02 PM
Well at least the 2/3 of the season MVP. Most teams have between 53-56 games remaining, a lot can change in that amount of time.

Keep an eye on Miggy.

ervinsm84
08-05-2012, 01:07 PM
The gap between what Harper and Trout have done to this point in their careers is massive. Sure both have potential through the roof, but given they're both still really young I think it's the easiest choice ever bc Trout has been ridiculously more productive. OPSing over 1000, stealing 30+ bases at a >90% success rate, and arguably the best defensive center fielder in the game. 6.8 fWAR in 85 games. That is absurd.

I'd be curious what Trout would command if he was a free agent right now. I wouldn't hesitate to give him 13/325

Ironman92
08-05-2012, 01:20 PM
As for the Trout/Harper thought....it's Trout by 10 miles right now (Harper on fumes a bit right now)....but Trout struggled in his opportunities as a 19 year old in the bigs last year.

But right now....he's 20....he didn't start until May and if he keeps this up you have a LEADOFF hitter with an OPS over 1.000 (.410 OB%, 600 Slug%)...29 HR, 32 2B, 8 3B, 142 runs, 90 RBI (bats leadoff and missed April, mind you)......200 hits, 58 stolen bases....gold glove defense and when he came up the Angels were 6-14 and are IMO the World Series favorites right now.

His skill set is a young Mickey Mantle....with young Joe DiMaggio stats, but add in the top base stealer in baseball.

Redlegs Homer
08-05-2012, 01:25 PM
Well at least the 2/3 of the season MVP. Most teams have between 53-56 games remaining, a lot can change in that amount of time.

True, but it would take a lot of ground to cover to even get close to him. I mean, in the NL at least you have McCutcheon and Votto separating themselves as the best batters in the NL. Trout is so far ahead of every batter at pretty much everything. The Angels have a very bright future.

jback76
08-05-2012, 01:33 PM
True, but it would take a lot of ground to cover to even get close to him. I mean, in the NL at least you have McCutcheon and Votto separating themselves as the best batters in the NL. Trout is so far ahead of every batter at pretty much everything. The Angels have a very bright future.

Agree, that's why I said 2/3 of the season MVP. Who knows an injury could leave him 50 games shy of a full season.

realistic
08-05-2012, 01:34 PM
;2693665']He's the easy choice for MVP at this point. I don't think there are many other players even close. Cano? Hamilton's been so cold. Trout is putting together a historic season. We may literally be seeing the best rookie year of all-time.

ichiro !

pujols,gooden

but impressive rookie year still

drowg14
08-05-2012, 03:22 PM
ichiro !

pujols,gooden

but impressive rookie year still

Ichiro didn't have the power numbers that Trout has.

Pujols produced ridiculous numbers, and played the whole season. He didn't miss a couple months like Trout did, so I would probably give the edge to Pujols. It depends how much you weigh Trouts base running, and CF defense.

Gooden's rookie year was pretty crazy as well (judging by the stats, I wasn't actually alive yet to witness it). I'll take the everyday player in Trout, but it's more of a preference thing at that point.

Ironman92
08-05-2012, 03:40 PM
ichiro !

pujols,gooden

but impressive rookie year still

Ichiro was 27 with no power numbers, Gooden was 17-9 I believe and Pujols had no speed or defense.

Mr.Redleg82
08-05-2012, 04:32 PM
Trout is great and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but you have to think he'll regress a little. Pitchers will start figuring out where his weaknesses as a batter are and if not start pitching around him.

jback76
08-05-2012, 04:45 PM
Trout is great and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but you have to think he'll regress a little. Pitchers will start figuring out where his weaknesses as a batter are and if not start pitching around him.

I agree with this, he has been great. But he'll regress, at least somewhat.

Ironman92
08-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Well, not much of a limb guys? Lol

If he did this until age 33 and then declined and played until age 40 his career numbers would be:

3100 runs scored, 4400 hits, 640 HR, 2000 RBI, 725 2B, 180 3B, 1100 SB, 1545 XBH, 7700 TB, 16 GG, 20x All-Star and 13 MVPs.

When you are this good this young...how often doesn't it work out?

OGB
08-06-2012, 07:13 PM
The guy is legit, and his rookie year has been remarkable, I don't think there is any debating that. However, keep in mind that he played 18 games against NL teams and only 68 games against the AL. That means he's seen most pitchers once or twice. It's not uncommon for a young player to light it up for an extended period as a rookie before pitchers learn the best way to get him out.

AintlifeGrande
08-06-2012, 07:29 PM
I remember early on when everything was Bryce Harper this,Bryce Harper that.He can't hold a candle to Mike Trout.

AintlifeGrande
08-06-2012, 07:31 PM
I wish the Reds had a Trout/Trumbo 1,2 punch.

Ironman92
08-06-2012, 11:58 PM
I remember early on when everything was Bryce Harper this,Bryce Harper that.He can't hold a candle to Mike Trout.

You can't say it yet.....Harper was better than Trout at 19.......Trout may go on to continue this but anyone thinking Harper isn't going to be outstanding is silly. Trout is clearly more polished right now.

Ironman92
08-07-2012, 12:00 AM
The guy is legit, and his rookie year has been remarkable, I don't think there is any debating that. However, keep in mind that he played 18 games against NL teams and only 68 games against the AL. That means he's seen most pitchers once or twice. It's not uncommon for a young player to light it up for an extended period as a rookie before pitchers learn the best way to get him out.

True....and pitchers/teams will adjust, but who else has started this good over this many?

BluegrassRedleg
08-07-2012, 03:41 AM
Harper's ceiling is still higher, IMO. If/when he puts it all together, he could be scary good.

Trout seems too good to be true right now. Just wondering if he'll be prime for the old "sophomore slump?" There's very little chance he can get significantly better than what he is now. That's setting an awfully high bar for yourself out of the gates.