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redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 06:17 PM
Reds
Stubbs CF
Valdez SS
Phillips 2B
Ludwick LF
Frazier 1B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Mesoraco C
Redmond P

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Cubs
Valbuena 3B
Mather LF
Rizzo 1B
Castro SS
Lahair RF
Clevenger C
Jackson CF
Cardenas 2B
Raley P

jback76
08-18-2012, 06:25 PM
Reds trying to make it a game by going with 8 players I see.:D

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 06:35 PM
Reds trying to make it a game by going with 8 players I see.:D

Thanks I fixed it Im an idiot I knew it looked wrong.

HometownHero
08-18-2012, 06:38 PM
Need to win this game and pick up ground no matter who wins the Pirates/Cards game. With Latos going vs the winless Volstad tomorrow could be a real good separation weekend.

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Hello everybody! I wish I didn't have to miss those two games! Looking more and more like Frazier is going to be a special player!

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:05 PM
Thrill of a lifetime for Redmond. Hope it goes well for him.

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:16 PM
Wow. Pirates have bases loaded no outs in the top of the 9th down 2.

O, and the MVP is up

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:21 PM
Ugh. People ready to stop complaining about Bailey and Leake?

And I'm not ripping on Redmond, I'm just saying that this stuff happens

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Phew!

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Ok. Hey put up a zero in his first inning.

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Ugh. People ready to stop complaining about Bailey and Leake?

And I'm not ripping on Redmond, I'm just saying that this stuff happens

Bailey=35 hits in 18.2 innings. Guy is just terrible his last 4 starts. That is what happens when your legs give out. Leake is way better. The fact Bailey is no better than Redmond is rediculous.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:24 PM
Bailey=35 hits in 18.2 innings. Guy is just terrible his last 4 starts. That is what happens when your legs give out. Leake is way better. The fact Bailey is no better than Redmond is rediculous.

Stop posting about Bailey. When you post about Homer you just look silly.

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Bailey=35 hits in 18.2 innings. Guy is just terrible his last 4 starts. That is what happens when your legs give out. Leake is way better. The fact Bailey is no better than Redmond is rediculous.

Alright, I don't want to start a fight, I'm just saying I HATE when people rip on players.

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Stop posting about Bailey. When you post about Homer you just look silly.

18.2=35

Stray
08-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Lets go ahead and score 12 runs tonight to be safe.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:25 PM
18.2=35

What about the other 4 months?

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:26 PM
What about the other 4 months?

127.1=127. Not that good to begin with.

Stray
08-18-2012, 08:29 PM
did not miss that by much

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:29 PM
127.1=127. Not that good to begin with.

The history speaks for itself. You have been crushing Bailey all season despite his very good performance. He's not perfect by any stretch but your continued assault of him has gone from silly to downright ignorant. It's a shame that you refuse to look at his performance and stick to your dumb stance.

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:32 PM
The history speaks for itself. You have been crushing Bailey all season despite his very good performance. He's not perfect by any stretch but your continued assault of him has gone from silly to downright ignorant. It's a shame that you refuse to look at his performance and stick to your dumb stance.

Very good is not what I would call this performance anymore. He was decent through the Astros start, but the last 4 atrocious performances have ruined that. He won't even have a positive "WAR" by the time the season ends. Bullpen is beckoning.

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:32 PM
Dang it. 1-0 Cubs

Dirtydealin
08-18-2012, 08:34 PM
Dang it. 1-0 Cubs

Solo HR rally killer?!?

HometownHero
08-18-2012, 08:35 PM
I hate seeing us give up HR to weak hitters no matter how the park plays it gets old.

Stray
08-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Hope Simon is feeling good today

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Well Redmond isn't gonna be up here long.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Very good is not what I would call this performance anymore. He was decent through the Astros start, but the last 4 atrocious performances have ruined that. He won't even have a positive "WAR" by the time the season ends. Bullpen is beckoning.

Your argument hasn't changed all season despite some great performances so you ranting about the last 4 starts is hollow. He hasn't been great over those 4 but over the course of the season he has been a very good starter for this team.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 08:38 PM
starting pitching depth doesnt look so good. thank god none of the 1-5 have gotten hurt. Need to get Lecure and Simon warm immediately

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:40 PM
Well Redmond isn't gonna be up here long.

According to The Rage he should have Bailey's slot. Hopefully Redmond can settle down. I know I'd be nervous

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:40 PM
Your argument hasn't changed all season despite some great performances so you ranting about the last 4 starts is hollow. He hasn't been great over those 4 but over the course of the season he has been a very good starter for this team.

18.2=35. He just hasn't been great, he has been outright dreadful. His legs are shot. He can't do his delivery right. He is done.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=The Rage;2707335]18.2=35. He just hasn't been great, he has been outright dreadful. His legs are shot. He can't do his delivery right. He is done.[/

When you try to justify a year long premise and use only the last 4 starts as your evidence you prove that you have no valid point. Of course, based on the responses to the ridiculous thread you started earlier this week, we already knew that.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:44 PM
Pick up that Ludwick option tonight.

Dirtydealin
08-18-2012, 08:44 PM
And it's tied!!

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:45 PM
Pick up that Ludwick option tonight.

What happens if he struggles next year?

BurgervilleBuck
08-18-2012, 08:45 PM
And it's tied!!

I thought I heard fireworks.

WDE
08-18-2012, 08:46 PM
Love me some Luddy!

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:46 PM
What happens if he struggles next year?

Blame Homer Bailey. You're good at that.

Honestly though, it's well worth that risk. He has been lights out and deserves the shot.

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:46 PM
Blame Homer Bailey. You're good at that.

Honestly though, it's well worth that risk. He has been lights out and deserves the shot.

Unless a legit upgrade is available. You never know.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:47 PM
Unless a legit upgrade is available. You never know.

For $5 million I don't think you could find that type of production.

Stray
08-18-2012, 08:49 PM
If we want to keep Ludwick we're gonna have to offer him 2-3 years. Even though he loves it here I don't think he'd agree to just the option, he's having the kinda season that is going to get him a payday from someone.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:50 PM
If we want to keep Ludwick we're gonna have to offer him 2-3 years. Even though he loves it here I don't think he'd agree to just the option, he's having the kinda season that is going to get him a payday from someone.

While I tend to agree with you it wasn't as if he was a hot commodity before signing with the Reds. IMO a $5 million guarantee is better than a maybe.

Stray
08-18-2012, 08:52 PM
While I tend to agree with you it wasn't as if he was a hot commodity before signing with the Reds. IMO a $5 million guarantee is better than a maybe.

I'm almost positive Walt will try the option. If Ludwick declines then we'll see if he offers him a couple of years.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:53 PM
I'm almost positive Walt will try the option. If Ludwick declines then we'll see if he offers him a couple of years.

No doubt.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 08:53 PM
r u kidding me redmond?

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 08:53 PM
r u kidding me redmond?

Really?

Dirtydealin
08-18-2012, 08:56 PM
What happens if he struggles next year?


What happens if the Myans were right?

Who cares sign the kid while you can get him cheap!!

The Rage
08-18-2012, 08:59 PM
What happens if the Myans were right?

Who cares sign the kid while you can get him cheap!!

the kid?

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:01 PM
So far Redmond is hanging in there.

Dirtydealin
08-18-2012, 09:02 PM
the kid?

Sorry, when you're my age anyone not wearing an adult diaper is a kid.

Stray
08-18-2012, 09:02 PM
So far Redmond is hanging in there.

Indeed

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:03 PM
71 pitches after 3 innings, wow

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:06 PM
71 pitches after 3 innings, wow

Bullpen is fresh. If he can give you 5 that would be a success IMO.

The Rage
08-18-2012, 09:06 PM
Mes is in a deep deep slump

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:07 PM
Bullpen is fresh. If he can give you 5 that would be a success IMO.

i give him one more inning and if he struggles, get him out

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
i give him one more inning and if he struggles, get him out

I could see that. Hopefully he gets through the 4th unscathed.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:15 PM
lol......

WDE
08-18-2012, 09:16 PM
Goodness

Stray
08-18-2012, 09:16 PM
was that a terrible throw to first or did it hit the runner?

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:17 PM
was that a terrible throw to first or did it hit the runner?

little girl throw

The Rage
08-18-2012, 09:17 PM
The Circus is in town. Redmond blew it. He was pushing for a starting job and simply blew it.

Stray
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Simon warming.

BPhil4
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
This guy sucks. Has no really good pitch, and doesn't locate anything very well.

Stray
08-18-2012, 09:19 PM
The Circus is in town. Redmond blew it. He was pushing for a starting job and simply blew it.

Pushing for what starting job? I doubt he'll lose his spot in the AAA rotation with today's outing.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:19 PM
The Circus is in town. Redmond blew it. He was pushing for a starting job and simply blew it.

LMAO. He was pushing for nothing. Your premise is still illogical despite your 8,000 posts to desperately prove otherwise.

WDE
08-18-2012, 09:20 PM
Dang it!

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:20 PM
This guy sucks. Has no really good pitch, and doesn't locate anything very well.

he's worse than that, he's lucky the cubs haven't scored 8 runs already

WDE
08-18-2012, 09:21 PM
I feel awful for Redmond

mrherd05
08-18-2012, 09:22 PM
Lucky?

Come on guys, good grief, the guy was making his debut, he is not a top notch prospect, he was pulled up to fill a need, which he has. We are down two...thats it.

He came up 5 outs short of what we would have loved to have.

Give up the hatred and constant negativity, geez...you all are going to get me banned.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:24 PM
Lucky?

Come on guys, good grief, the guy was making his debut, he is not a top notch prospect, he was pulled up to fill a need, which he has. We are down two...thats it.

He came up 5 outs short of what we would have loved to have.

Give up the hatred and constant negativity, geez...you all are going to get me banned.

Well said sir.

WDE
08-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Good idea, bad throw

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Ok. Down three. Leggggggooooo

BurgervilleBuck
08-18-2012, 09:29 PM
Ok. Down three. Leggggggooooo

Not insurmountable for this team. It is the Cubs, after all. :thumbup:

HometownHero
08-18-2012, 09:29 PM
Todd Redmond not ready for prime time but still in the game against a rookie so need to chip away.

Mutaman
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
That was not an impressive outing.

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Let's hope Redmond didn't bring the whole family to this one. Feel bad for the guy. Kinda glad Cueto gave us a solid 8 innings today.

jback76
08-18-2012, 09:33 PM
I never want to see Redmond again, ever

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 09:41 PM
You guys are ripping Redmond, but the facts are we have had only Ludwick get on base in 4 innings...we need to start hitting...Why does it take until so late in most games for our hitters to wake up (if they do) ? 1 hit off this guy that came into the game with an ERA over 9!

Mutaman
08-18-2012, 09:41 PM
Feel bad for the guy.

I feel bad for me for having to watch the guy.

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 09:43 PM
Ok seriously guys everyone please stop ripping Redmond we all know he had a bad start lets just forget about it and start talking about the rest of this game.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:43 PM
I feel bad for me for having to watch the guy.

hahaha, this

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:46 PM
luis valbuena is trying to earn a spot on the all reds killer team

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 09:46 PM
need to see it again -- but that looked like a bad route by Bruce

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 09:47 PM
Valdez made it closer than it should have been.

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 09:55 PM
Here comes a rally

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:55 PM
need some runs here, can't be squandering oppurtunities

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 09:56 PM
Need Mes to do something good here.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 09:59 PM
heisey as an everyday player is bad but as a ph he is invaluable

The Rage
08-18-2012, 10:02 PM
Stubbs and Bruce are something else when they slump.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Stubbs...SMH

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Stubbs and Bruce are something else when they slump.

unlike poor Cairo & Valdez -- who have simply slumped all year

:eek:

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Man that had the potential to be a much bigger inning.

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 10:04 PM
It is hard to believe we have only 27 RBI's from Mes and Hanigan combined this year. Hanigan has 240 at bats but has only 13 RBI. Mes has 154 at bats and has 14 RBI.
Not much production from the catching position at all.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 10:04 PM
That's why Valdez is so frustrating. Swinging for the fences when I don't think he can even hit one out of the park. Not to mention swinging at ball 1 first pitch. You have the middle of the order coming up....let them drive the runs in. No idea why he's in the 2 hole anyway.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:05 PM
mes just isnt a good hitter and hanigan is not clutch

Mutaman
08-18-2012, 10:07 PM
mes just isnt a good hitter and hanigan is not clutch

Hanigan could be hitting under .200 and still be one of the most valuable guys on this team.

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 10:08 PM
Looks like we may use everyone in the bullpen between both games today.

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 10:08 PM
Hanigan could be hitting under .200 and still be one of the most valuable guys on this team.

this

Has Mes thrown out a base stealer this year?

May have to look that up.

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:08 PM
I give Mes a pass because he is only a rookie and he will get better but I believe Hanigan should be producing more than he is now. But also at this time the reds just need hanigan to call a good game and handle the pitching staff.

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 10:11 PM
I give Mes a pass because he is only a rookie and he will get better but I believe Hanigan should be producing more than he is now. But also at this time the reds just need hanigan to call a good game and handle the pitching staff.
Maybe we can bring back Johnny Bench on Sept. 1.

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 10:12 PM
well this is turning into a miserable effort ---

The Rage
08-18-2012, 10:12 PM
This game is over

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:12 PM
this

Has Mes thrown out a base stealer this year?

May have to look that up.

This year opposing teams have stolen 33 against Mes and hes thrown out 10

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:13 PM
i dont see the reds coming back in this one, just win tomorrow

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:13 PM
Maybe we can bring back Johnny Bench on Sept. 1.

I wish.

BPhil4
08-18-2012, 10:14 PM
Yep this ones over

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 10:14 PM
It looks like we'll have to depend on Latos to win the series tomorrow.

40YrRedsFan
08-18-2012, 10:15 PM
Mop up time...have Valdez start throwing in the bullpen:D

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 10:16 PM
It looks like we'll have to depend on Latos to win the series tomorrow.

Not exactly a bad spot to be in...assuming we lose tonight.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 10:17 PM
This was a classic throw away game with the thinking "Ahhh we'll just win tomorrow."

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:18 PM
It looks like we'll have to depend on Latos to win the series tomorrow.

id say the odds r good with him pitching

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:21 PM
ok this is now over.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 10:21 PM
Solid outing for LeCure.

Stray
08-18-2012, 10:23 PM
12 hits, 8 runs, and 2 errors. Not our best effort.

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:24 PM
Cant win them all.

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 10:27 PM
This year opposing teams have stolen 33 against Mes and hes thrown out 10

beat me to it -- I just saw that --- better than I thought - even though we know it's the pitcher in most cases

Mutaman
08-18-2012, 10:30 PM
Catching is not among this teams' few problems. And if we needed to be reminded of that, a few days of watching Navarro behind the plate did the job.

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 10:31 PM
beat me to it -- I just saw that --- better than I thought - even though we know it's the pitcher in most cases

Right not bad Hanigans numbers are better with opposing teams have stolen 28 bases and hes thrown out 21.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 10:31 PM
Val-malo.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:38 PM
the rolenator

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:40 PM
wow mes is bad....

Stray
08-18-2012, 10:40 PM
I can't remember the last time Mesoraco got a hit lol

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Man, Mes just does not come up with anything offensively.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 10:46 PM
Couple terrible swings from Mes and Paul in hitters' counts. Man we should at least be down 2 if we could just convert with RISP.

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 10:49 PM
Marshall comes in like a boss!

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 10:49 PM
It IS the Cubs -- I am not giving up

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 10:52 PM
I'm happy with Hanny. Only a hand full better in the league. Mes has underachieved this year, I'll pass judgement on him next year.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 10:52 PM
Valdez swings at 3 balls in that AB. Good Lord, TAKE PITCHES.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 10:54 PM
Man, Luddy is the MAN!

Stray
08-18-2012, 10:54 PM
Good lord

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 10:55 PM
Oh my....back in it!

WDE
08-18-2012, 10:55 PM
Luddy!!!

cincyforever
08-18-2012, 10:55 PM
Lmao @ "Cowboy"

"I've seen a lot of hot guys in my life..."

hahahaha

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 10:55 PM
Valdez hasn't looked good since we played the Yanks. I think we'll see more of him because Phillips has looked dog tired the last few games.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 10:56 PM
Valdez hasn't looked good since we played the Yanks. I think we'll see more of him because Phillips has looked dog tired the last few games.

If it means BP is better in October I'm OK with that.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 10:57 PM
How big is the last inning where we left ppl on 2nd and third with one out and got nothing now?

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 10:57 PM
Lmao @ "Cowboy"

"I've seen a lot of hot guys in my life..."

hahahaha

Lol! I might catch on fire.

BPhil4
08-18-2012, 10:58 PM
Studwick is on fire

Kcbuckeye22
08-18-2012, 11:02 PM
Luddy might we worth that 5 Mil. Next year Bruce 35 HR, Luddy 35 HR, Votto 30 HR, Phillips, Frazier, Stubbs, Cozart 20 HR. Something to think about.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
Just got home from work, did Redmond get his head kicked in?

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
Good start to the 8th...c'mon Scotty!!!!

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
tying run coming to the plate

WDE
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
Man what an exciting game!

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:09 PM
Just got home from work, did Redmond get his head kicked in?

Not really. But he struggled.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:10 PM
Let's rough up the cubbie pen

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:10 PM
Just got home from work, did Redmond get his head kicked in?

Couldn't find the plate. 4 runs on 7 hits in 3.1 innings. 91 pitches.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Not really. But he struggled.

Thanks, I wasn't expecting much from him

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Couldn't find the plate. 4 runs on 7 hits in 3.1 innings. 91 pitches.

Wow glad Cueto gave them 8 innings earlier

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:13 PM
Just a terrible at bat by Rolen

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Miggy!!!!!!!!!!

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Lose one here Stubbs!

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Atta boy Cairo

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Way to go Cairo there is no quit in this team

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Thank you Miggy.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:17 PM
Way to step up Miggy!!!!

WDE
08-18-2012, 11:17 PM
Cairo!

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:18 PM
At worst we're guaranteed one more at bat for Ludwick.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:18 PM
Pulled the string there

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:18 PM
Gets by him and it's a tie game.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:18 PM
This game is far from over

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:19 PM
We take a lot of bad swings with less than 2 strikes, especially balls way off the plate.

D up and lets make it 2 for 2 today.

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:20 PM
Gotta hold em here.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:22 PM
There's no way Dusty lets Valdez hit with Cozart on the bench, right?

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:22 PM
Win or lose you have to love the fight of this team.

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:22 PM
There's no way Dusty lets Valdez hit with Cozart on the bench, right?

We'll see. I'd hit Cozart personally.

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:23 PM
Yeah I think we'll see Cozart

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:23 PM
We'll see. I'd hit Cozart personally.

I think you definitely have to, but I could easily see Dusty sticking with Valdez.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Logan Freaking Ondrusek

WDE
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Wow

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Really Logan

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Ondrusek SMH.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
way to blow it logan, worthless pitcher

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Ugh

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:26 PM
There goes the momentum

Ironman92
08-18-2012, 11:26 PM
This thread has been brutal to follow.

Billy Hamilton's Legs
08-18-2012, 11:26 PM
logan with a surprising gift to dejesus down the middle of the plate...

redsfan1995
08-18-2012, 11:26 PM
Ok if Ludwick is not the Reds left fielder next year I want to see dejesus in Reds uniform.

moewan
08-18-2012, 11:26 PM
Logan OndBOOsek

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:27 PM
Why is Hoover not on the roster? Ondrusek needs his walking papers.

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 11:28 PM
Just got home from work, did Redmond get his head kicked in?

no -- but he showed me why he has been in the minors -- no put them away pitch

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:29 PM
Dont swing.

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 11:30 PM
hopefully ondruskek realizes why he doesnt pitch very often, he's been just terrible

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:32 PM
That ball was low

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 11:32 PM
bad call but not like valdez deserves any 50/50 calls

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:32 PM
Everett's strike zone is terrible.

goreds18
08-18-2012, 11:32 PM
Wow the time Valdez is patient he gets screwed.

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:33 PM
Ondrusek even had his good stuff tonight. 95 mph fastballs...that's usually a good sign.

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:33 PM
Get on base for Ludwick

Joesh
08-18-2012, 11:33 PM
TI'm glad to see Valdez has filled in for the gap Harris and Costanza left on this team

Stray
08-18-2012, 11:34 PM
Nice

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 11:37 PM
Luddy had to swing based on the sloppy strike zone

Maker_84
08-18-2012, 11:39 PM
ballgame

Who Dey Time
08-18-2012, 11:39 PM
Get em tomorrow with Mr. Latos.

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:39 PM
Ugggh, you can't swing at that garbage with Bruce on deck!

WDE
08-18-2012, 11:40 PM
That is a tough loss

Redsfansince72
08-18-2012, 11:41 PM
should be 2nd and 3rd with Rolen up..GRRR darn Ump!!!

osuredleg24
08-18-2012, 11:42 PM
should be 2nd and 3rd with Rolen up..GRRR darn Ump!!!

If there was someone on first, wouldn't that ball BP hit been right to the 2nd basemen?

anyways, can't swing at ball 4 there from Frazier

Red Raindog
08-18-2012, 11:42 PM
Ugggh, you can't swing at that garbage with Bruce on deck!

the called strike on Valdez made swinging a requirement -- Frazier had 2 strikes on him - as did Luddy

Billy_Bearcat
08-18-2012, 11:44 PM
the called strike on Valdez made swinging a requirement -- Frazier had 2 strikes on him - as did Luddy

Everett's strike zone was horrid tonight. Still, Frazier swung at that one in the dirt.

texasdave
08-19-2012, 01:29 AM
Hoped for a little more out of Redmond. But Major League debuts can be rough.

Jefferson24
08-19-2012, 01:41 AM
Hoped for a little more out of Redmond. But Major League debuts can be rough.

they would have been better off starting Simon. doesn't matter much we still gained ground.