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Kc61
08-24-2012, 12:18 AM
Reds and Cards hook up at GABP. Latos, Leake, and Bailey against Lynn, Garcia and Wainright. Reds lead season series 5-4, swept Cards last time. One more series after this, final three of the season in Cardsland.

Reds lead Cards by 7 and Pirates by 8 entering the series. Cards coming off home sweep of Astros, now play Reds, Pirates and Nats on the road ten games altogether. Huge road trip for Cards. Reds coming off split at Philadelphia home for these three, then to Arizona and Houston.

Pirates return home from sweep by SD. Pirates play Brewers three games to start homestand. Teams are 3-3 so far against each other. Wandy R, Karstens, and Bedard for the Pirates. Fiers, Marcum, Rogers for the Brewers.

Pirates play Brewers nine times before the end of the season, six in Pitt. Pirates are 37-23 at home, Brewers 19-38 on the road. Brewers 30-27 v. NL Central.

Reds 3rd best team ERA in NL; Cards 5th best; Pirates 7th best; Brewers 13th best.

RedsManRick
08-24-2012, 12:27 AM
If the Reds get swept by the Cardinals, they will leave with a 4 game division lead. That makes me happy.

Kc61
08-24-2012, 12:32 AM
If the Reds get swept by the Cardinals, they will leave with a 4 game division lead. That makes me happy.

I started this thread. There will be no more talk of a Cards sweep. Go Reds!

AtomicDumpling
08-24-2012, 02:10 AM
I think Reds fans are getting too complacent. Most of us are feeling overconfident and are already convinced the Reds are going to win the division or at the very least make the playoffs. I hope the players are taking this series more seriously than the fans are.

The Reds are playing great and are in the catbird seat, but this thing is a LONG way from wrapped up. The Reds need to stay focused and keep winning all the way through the month of September. This is no time to merely "run out the clock". The Reds still need a lot more wins during the regular season. The Cardinals are not just going to go away quietly. They know this race won't be over until the last day of the season, they learned that last year.

We are getting ready for a series against our key rivals and the fans don't act like they are aware of how important this series is. I know the Cardinals are aware of it. The Reds and their fans need to come to the yard with some energy and passion tomorrow. We need to punch them in the mouth and send them home crying. Let's claim this division with some authority right here and right now.

DGullett35
08-24-2012, 03:32 AM
Im suprised the Cards have the 5th best ERA in the NL. I would have figured they were worse than that because of their pen issues.

fearofpopvol1
08-24-2012, 04:10 AM
Obviously, I hope the Reds sweep or even win the series. But as long as the Reds don't get swept and take 1 game, they will be in good shape after. Cards get the pleasure of going to Pittsburgh for 3 after our series and Washington for 4.

buckeyenut
08-24-2012, 06:20 AM
Any chance Votto is back for this series?

I guess if it wasn't a 7 game lead, he might have a chance to be there, but probably not at this point.

I don't mind Chapman, Phillips and Rolen sitting last night as long as they don't sit this weekend. I want to see Frazier, Phillips, Cozart, Rolen, Hanigan, Bruce, Stubbs and Ludwick for every game against the Cards. Only changes I am open to is Heisey for Stubbs and Navarro for Hanigan. Let's sweep the Cards and crush the hopes that this little hot streak might be giving them.

PuffyPig
08-24-2012, 06:51 AM
We are getting ready for a series against our key rivals and the fans don't act like they are aware of how important this series is.

Based on what?

A thread was started about this exact series.

Posters here have been talking about this series since the last sweep.

HotCorner
08-24-2012, 08:33 AM
Personally I want the sweep because it would 1) push the Cards to 10 games back 2) start off their brutal road trip on the right note. ;)

George Anderson
08-24-2012, 08:50 AM
I think Reds fans are getting too complacent. Most of us are feeling overconfident and are already convinced the Reds are going to win the division or at the very least make the playoffs. I hope the players are taking this series more seriously than the fans are.

The Reds are playing great and are in the catbird seat, but this thing is a LONG way from wrapped up. The Reds need to stay focused and keep winning all the way through the month of September. This is no time to merely "run out the clock". The Reds still need a lot more wins during the regular season. The Cardinals are not just going to go away quietly. They know this race won't be over until the last day of the season, they learned that last year.

We are getting ready for a series against our key rivals and the fans don't act like they are aware of how important this series is. I know the Cardinals are aware of it. The Reds and their fans need to come to the yard with some energy and passion tomorrow. We need to punch them in the mouth and send them home crying. Let's claim this division with some authority right here and right now.

My thoughts exactly. Reds fans are already making playoff plans much in the same manner Rangers fans were planning on when to go see the 2011 WS trophy. I think we all know how that went.

The Reds are in great shape but it is far from over. One game at a time.

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-24-2012, 09:13 AM
Win two of three and all's good. Lose two of three and all's still good.

cumberlandreds
08-24-2012, 09:15 AM
Reds just need to avoid a sweep by the Cards. If the Cards do sweep then they will feel like they are back in the central division race, which they would be. That would make 6 wins in a row for them too. Things would start getting really tight then. After what the Cards did last year to make the playoffs they would have all the confidence in the world they could do it again. If the Reds just win one game they still would have a six game lead. Stll a nice lead but far from over. Win two or three and I think the Cards would be just about done with the division and have only the WC to look to. We will probably be looking at the Pirates as the 2nd place team once again. It would really take some freakish things to happen at that point for the Reds to lose the division.

Kc61
08-24-2012, 10:20 AM
Im suprised the Cards have the 5th best ERA in the NL. I would have figured they were worse than that because of their pen issues.

After the overnight, latest stats have Cards and Giants tied for 5th-6th in ERA.

Reds third at 3.44, Braves fourth at 3.63, Cards and Giants at 3.64.

Keep in mind that Cards, while having poor bullpen numbers, are second in the NL in starting pitchers' ERA at 3.45. Reds are fifth at 3.71.

Tom Servo
08-24-2012, 10:27 AM
For the record, I don't at all believe in dreams predicting anything.


But I just woke up and I had a nightmare. It was the playoffs and the Reds were playing the Cardinals. The Reds pitchers couldn't get anybody out, and when anything was put in play the Reds fielders screwed it up. The Reds quickly went down 0-2 in the series. No joke, one of the saddest dreams I've ever had. :(

Kc61
08-24-2012, 10:36 AM
For the record, I don't at all believe in dreams predicting anything.


But I just woke up and I had a nightmare. It was the playoffs and the Reds were playing the Cardinals. The Reds pitchers couldn't get anybody out, and when anything was put in play the Reds fielders screwed it up. The Reds quickly went down 0-2 in the series. No joke, one of the saddest dreams I've ever had. :(

As long as it was a dream about the playoffs, I'll live with it. Right now we have a weekend regular season series to win.

One more point on this upcoming Central series. Brewers have won 5 of their last 7 games. So maybe the Pirates are running into a hot team. But of course those were home games for the Brew Crew. They are a different team on the road.

traderumor
08-24-2012, 11:02 AM
Seriously, I think it should be apparent from the Philly series that each game is being taken seriously, both by ones who can do something about it and by those living vicariously through those who can do something about it.

Still, the reality is that the Reds have built a nice lead that puts all the pressure on the other team to look to sweep. The Reds are at the point where they can play .500 ball and most certainly win the division. The Cards and Pirates have very little margin for error to have a chance at catching the Reds.

Plus, the Reds have proven they are a solid team, and unless the hitting and pitching fall off the cliff over the next 36 games, they are in position to win 95-98 games just playing good baseball. I would say it is gaining confidence moreso than playing out the schedule. And that thought is one big strawman that I really don't see anyone stating with absolute certainty that the pennant race is over.

Kc61
08-24-2012, 11:09 AM
Not counting my chickens. Anything can happen in baseball. Wainright is on fire now and Cards starting pitching is excellent.

Here is the list of starters scheduled to face the Cards the next ten games. All on road for Cards. Too bad Reds couldn't rearrange things to work Cueto into the mix.

Latos
Leake
Bailey
Burnett
McDonald
Wandy R
E. Jackson
Gio Gonzalez
Zimmerman
Strasburg

Reds Fanatic
08-24-2012, 11:53 AM
A couple of notes on TV coverage for this series:

Tonight's game will be on MLB Network for most of the country with Bob Costas and John Smoltz annoucing

Saturday's game will be on Fox. It will be on in 24% of the country with Thom Brennaman and Tom Verducci annoucing. These are some of the markets carrying the game Saturday
MARKETS INCLUDE: Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Knoxville, Louisville, Memphis, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Tulsa.

MikeThierry
08-24-2012, 12:25 PM
Im suprised the Cards have the 5th best ERA in the NL. I would have figured they were worse than that because of their pen issues.

It's so frustrating being a Cards fan because there are a lot of wasted pitching performances from our starting pitching. The Cards have the 3rd best starters ERA in baseball. The bullpen has been an absolute joke most of the year.

cumberlandreds
08-24-2012, 01:25 PM
A couple of notes on TV coverage for this series:

Tonight's game will be on MLB Network for most of the country with Bob Costas and John Smoltz annoucing

Saturday's game will be on Fox. It will be on in 24% of the country with Thom Brennaman and Tom Verducci annoucing. These are some of the markets carrying the game Saturday

One of the biggest games of the biggest series of they year and I can't watch it just because I live in the DC area. I hate that FOX contract. :(

mdccclxix
08-24-2012, 03:14 PM
One of the biggest games of the biggest series of they year and I can't watch it just because I live in the DC area. I hate that FOX contract. :(

Well, go to the game then!

Reds Fanatic
08-24-2012, 03:26 PM
From the Reds:

Only 800 standing room only tickets left for Saturday's game:


Reds ‏@Reds

About 800 Standing Room Only tix remain for Saturday's 4:05 game. Available for $10 at all #Reds tix outlets: http://atmlb.com/PhhKzw

PuffyPig
08-24-2012, 04:03 PM
It's so frustrating being a Cards fan because.........

This should be a separate thread where posters can complete the sentence.

The Operator
08-25-2012, 12:01 AM
From the Reds:

Only 800 standing room only tickets left for Saturday's game:That's true in a way, but there were still plenty of actual seats available on StubHub earlier today. I got some fairly nice seats in the Sun/Moon Deck for about 60$ total.

Just an FYI in case anyone's thinking about going.

Tom Servo
08-25-2012, 12:04 AM
But I just woke up and I had a nightmare...the Reds were playing the Cardinals. The Reds pitchers couldn't get anybody out
I promise you guys I'll only have good dreams tonight.