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Krawhitham
09-01-2012, 03:23 PM
1. Zack Cozart (R) SS
2. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
4. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Todd Frazier (R) 1B
7. Scott Rolen (R) 3B
8. Ryan Hanigan (R) C
9. Homer Bailey (R) P

Krawhitham
09-01-2012, 03:24 PM
Stubbs sat down for a grand total of ONE game then is still batting 2nd

Stray
09-01-2012, 05:41 PM
They reported that Dusty, Jacoby and Stubbs had a long meeting before yesterday's game. I'll wait a week or two and see how the PT between Stubbs and Heisey plays out.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 06:01 PM
Stubbs sat down for a grand total of ONE game then is still batting 2nd

He only sat 7 innings.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 06:02 PM
They reported that Dusty, Jacoby and Stubbs had a long meeting before yesterday's game. I'll wait a week or two and see how the PT between Stubbs and Heisey plays out.

Maybe it's a scenario where Stubbs plays against lefties....and if a righty is starting for the Stros, well I guess Dusty, Drew and Brook just braided each other's hair for 30 min

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 06:08 PM
No....Harrell is a righty.

Stray
09-01-2012, 06:24 PM
Maybe it's a scenario where Stubbs plays against lefties....and if a righty is starting for the Stros, well I guess Dusty, Drew and Brook just braided each other's hair for 30 min

Or maybe they made a swing adjustment? He's not a great hitter but he obviously isn't as bad as he was playing.

My guess is the playing time will be 50/50 until Votto comes back (whenever that is)...then I think Bruce will get some time there.

UPRedsFan
09-01-2012, 06:25 PM
What happened to playing the hot bat? When the get to October Stubbs better see the starting lineup only if there is a lefty on the mound or if he somehow gets hot the last week of the season.

The Rage
09-01-2012, 06:26 PM
The Reds have such a lead, I do not have to root for Bailey anymore. It is imperative he is kicked out of the rotation. Another horrible start against the historically bad Stros would seal the deal of that.

I can't believe Stubbs is starting again. Unbeliveable.

Stray
09-01-2012, 06:28 PM
What happened to playing the hot bat? When the get to October Stubbs better see the starting lineup only if there is a lefty on the mound or if he somehow gets hot the last week of the season.

I've never been under the impression that Dusty plays the hot bat, when he says it I take it more as coach speak. Winning streaks, losing streaks, hot bats, whatever...I've always felt like Dusty is looking big picture when he makes the lineup card.

Wants to give guys a chance to get out of slumps, wants plenty of rest for veterans, wants all of his bench players to see regular time to stay sharp...just like he's wanting to maintain a well oiled machine as we get to crunch time.

Stray
09-01-2012, 06:30 PM
The Reds have such a lead, I do not have to root for Bailey anymore. It is imperative he is kicked out of the rotation. Another horrible start against the historically bad Stros would seal the deal of that.

I can't believe Stubbs is starting again. Unbeliveable.

Hate to break it to ya, but a bad start for Bailey will not get him kicked from the rotation. Not sure if Homer kicked your dog or what, but your hatred for him is rather amusing :laugh:

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 07:04 PM
Or maybe they made a swing adjustment? He's not a great hitter but he obviously isn't as bad as he was playing.

My guess is the playing time will be 50/50 until Votto comes back (whenever that is)...then I think Bruce will get some time there.

Swing adjustment? You think they waited long enough? Lol

It's not obvious that he's better than he is. He has declined for 3 straight years. He's hitting .224 with a 13% line drive %....beats out a good bit of crap hits.

I can't think of a player in MLB history with more opportunities for continuous play, regardless of offensive ineptness.

Stray
09-01-2012, 07:10 PM
Swing adjustment? You think they waited long enough? Lol

It's not obvious that he's better than he is. He has declined for 3 straight years. He's hitting .224 with a 13% line drive %....beats out a good bit of crap hits.

I can't think of a player in MLB history with more opportunities for continuous play, regardless of offensive ineptness.

I meant for his recent slump, nobody is that bad. It worked with Rolen when he was a .100ish hitter. But yeah, I really have no idea what the meeting was about and we'll never know. If in a couple of weeks we see that it's 50/50 Heisey and Stubbs then we'll know that it was probably to let him know that he was in a straight platoon from now until told otherwise.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 07:33 PM
I meant for his recent slump, nobody is that bad. It worked with Rolen when he was a .100ish hitter. But yeah, I really have no idea what the meeting was about and we'll never know. If in a couple of weeks we see that it's 50/50 Heisey and Stubbs then we'll know that it was probably to let him know that he was in a straight platoon from now until told otherwise.

I'll just wait to believe it when I see it. Since his call up Stubbs has had every opportunity to play and I assume he'll play at least 25 games this month (likely 25 starts)

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 07:47 PM
The Reds have such a lead, I do not have to root for Bailey anymore. It is imperative he is kicked out of the rotation. Another horrible start against the historically bad Stros would seal the deal of that.

I can't believe Stubbs is starting again. Unbeliveable.

You've never rooted for Bailey. It's why you post crazy thread after crazy thread about his removal from the rotation. You were doing this even when he was pitching at a very high level earlier in the year.

Everyone here gets that you hate Homer.

LexRedsFan
09-01-2012, 08:03 PM
I love the Reds, but it's going to be sorely tempting to check out Michigan-Alabama tonight.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:05 PM
You would hope Homer to come out and go 7 with 2 ER.

I'm leery of his innings wearing on him....but the crappy Astros could actually mask his performance to the good.

I actually agree Homer getting a couple wins against Astros-like teams could hurt in the playoffs. My trust of him is the least of our 5.....but will hold judgement through Sept. Dusty trusts Leake the least by a good bit IMO.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:06 PM
Pretty fair crowd

































For an 8th grade volleyball match

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Cozy leads off with a hit.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:07 PM
I bunt Stubbs

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Poor framing cost Harrell a K of Stubbs

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:10 PM
Poor framing cost Harrell a K of Stubbs

Yes, it was a blown call

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 08:10 PM
I love the Reds, but it's going to be sorely tempting to check out Michigan-Alabama tonight.

Repeat button on remote.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Poor play by the SS and good running by Cozy gets Stubbs a fortunate single.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Yes, it was a blown call

Umps rarely call it when the catcher looks that bad.....Hanigan is the best, Molina incredibly good too.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Astros fail to turn two. Lol

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Wish he got more lift on that one

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Keep an eye on Luddy this month....teams are finally learning to pitch him up (and he gets a middle height strike for a sac fly)

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Wish he got more lift on that one

He did well...that pitch was moving in on him....good RBI, crappy pitch

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Umps rarely call it when the catcher looks that bad.....Hanigan is the best, Molina incredibly good too.

Just happened again. Your right, this catcher is real bad.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:17 PM
Just happened again. Your right, this catcher is real bad.

He's struggling....but Harrell missed his location to Stubbs by 18 inches....but it hit the outside corner...was set up inside corner.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Cards/Nats 9-9 in the 9th...Yady up

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Cards/Nats 9-9 in the 9th...Yady up

Just missed a HR...2 outs

Red Raindog
09-01-2012, 08:23 PM
nice play Cozie!

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:23 PM
We call that Cozy range.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:24 PM
nice play Cozie!

It's "y" not "ie"....he told me

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Excellent job Cozart. You may hit like junk at times, but your defense is always good. Get you a beer for fielding that smash.

Red Raindog
09-01-2012, 08:25 PM
It's "y" not "ie"....he told me

I drink corrected!

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Ugh....Cardinals retake the lead 10-9

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Ugh....Cardinals retake the lead 10-9

Do we want the Cardinals to win?

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 08:26 PM
One of the many differences between Cozart and Janish is that Cozart never lets offensive slumps effect his defense.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:27 PM
That strike to Rolen was 5 inches higher and 2-3 inches further outside than the one not called on Stubbs....but catcher received it appropriately for once.

Stray
09-01-2012, 08:28 PM
Good hard slide by Frazier

Stray
09-01-2012, 08:29 PM
That RF cannot field a ball

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:29 PM
Is Votto coming back this coming week?

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:29 PM
Do we want the Cardinals to win?

No....they must be eliminated....too much karma for me. The Nats are going to be without Strasburg....dumbness will end their ways.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:30 PM
That RF cannot field a ball

Cubs South

Stray
09-01-2012, 08:31 PM
No....they must be eliminated....too much karma for me. The Nats are going to be without Strasburg....dumbness will end their ways.

Nationals still have plenty of pitching without Strasburg. They're scary good when they hit.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 08:31 PM
Paredes is destined for the DH role next year.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:35 PM
Nationals still have plenty of pitching without Strasburg. They're scary good when they hit.

I trust Gio and Zimmerman but c'mon....not facing Strasburg is a huge advantage to their opponent.....Nats are still good and could represent.

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 08:41 PM
Do we want the Cardinals to win?

Hell no! The last place we want to play them is in a 5 game series. We want the Nats to roll them while we have easy games and hopefully push them out of the WC lead and try to pass the Nats later when they lose Strasburg.

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:43 PM
Hell no! The last place we want to play them is in a 5 game series. We want the Nats to roll them while we have easy games and hopefully push them out of the WC lead and try to pass the Nats later when they lose Strasburg.

Division winners and WC don't play each other in the first round that are in the same division. I would love to play them in the NLCS.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 08:43 PM
One of the many differences between Cozart and Janish is that Cozart never lets offensive slumps effect his defense.

Where did that come from? Cozy is solid. Janish is all defense was just named defensive player of the month while hitting .200, kinda disputes your theory.

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 08:44 PM
Division winners and WC don't play each other in the first round. I would love to play them in the NLCS.

They do now

The Rage
09-01-2012, 08:44 PM
They do now

Ah, so they changed it. Win away Natties!!!

DocRed
09-01-2012, 08:44 PM
Stubbs sat down for a grand total of ONE game then is still batting 2nd

DUHHHHSTY...:confused:

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 08:46 PM
Ah, so they changed it. Win away Natties!!!

Yep...

Changes to the Postseason format include the following:
-Clubs from the same division will be allowed to play one another in either the Wild Card Game or the Division Series.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 08:59 PM
When Bruce does that you know he's swinging well.

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Where did that come from?

From watching Janish play shortstop for the Cincinnati Reds during 2011. It is not a "theory", it is a "fact" that anyone who watched the Redlegs last year could have observed. His defense went south as his offensive woes mounted.

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Janish is all defense was just named defensive player of the month while hitting .200, kinda disputes your theory.

I don't care if he was named Playmate of the Month. It doesn't change his performance last year. His offensive woes definitely effected his defense.

The Rage
09-01-2012, 09:38 PM
Ugh, Frazier

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 10:02 PM
Homer dealing. Get a run for him.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 10:03 PM
DUHHHHSTY...:confused:

Again...he only sat for 7 innings

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 10:03 PM
I don't care if he was named Playmate of the Month. It doesn't change his performance last year. His offensive woes definitely effected his defense.

affected

MrRedLegger
09-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Bailey gem alert.

Astros have gone to their bullpen, time to make our move on them.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 10:09 PM
That's awful.....c'mon Fletcher that's terrible.

I hate arrogant umpires to good to check.

MrRedLegger
09-01-2012, 10:10 PM
That's f****n horse s**t!!!!!!

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 10:10 PM
F'n horse crap, according to BatDudeBP

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 10:11 PM
He just tossed Phillips for mumbling....you could barely see his lips move and that was definitely worth a check.

Just awful

Krawhitham
09-01-2012, 10:11 PM
That was a mighty quick hook

malcontent
09-01-2012, 10:13 PM
Phillips went. He should have been tossed.

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 10:14 PM
We are playing the Houston Astros right? How we start hitting like it WOW, at least Homer is keeping up his great work on the road.

R_Webb18
09-01-2012, 10:16 PM
We are playing the Houston Astros right? How we start hitting like it WOW, at least Homer is keeping up his great work on the road.

you do realize the pitcher that started is decent

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 10:23 PM
you do realize the pitcher that started is decent

He has been against us these last two times but he has a 5.91 vs Pittsburgh and 6.61 vs St Louis this year.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 10:30 PM
Great effort from Homer tonight.

The Rage
09-01-2012, 10:30 PM
Right on cue, there is one. Bailey has another start against the Stros in 6 days.

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 10:31 PM
Brantley is sure into this game.

malcontent
09-01-2012, 10:31 PM
I thought Bailey was gonna get burned there.

R_Webb18
09-01-2012, 10:34 PM
He has been against us these last two times but he has a 5.91 vs Pittsburgh and 6.61 vs St Louis this year.

this is why you look at overall numbers

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 10:36 PM
this is why you look at overall numbers

You mean to say he beat enough bad teams it helps make it look passable when he shuts down our underpreforming offense again?

The Rage
09-01-2012, 10:37 PM
Frazier is going deep here

R_Webb18
09-01-2012, 10:41 PM
You mean to say he beat enough bad teams it helps make it look passable when he shuts down our underpreforming offense again?

trust me he faces some tuff teams also

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 10:43 PM
trust me he faces some tuff teams also

If you drop when he shut us down the last two time he has a 4.65 ERA vs winning teams.

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 10:56 PM
Marshall tried his best to give this away but he got lucky.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:00 PM
Marshall really making a mess of things.

The Rage
09-01-2012, 11:02 PM
What a messed up night.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:02 PM
Lol

Spider Tre
09-01-2012, 11:02 PM
LMAO WTF

5TimeWSChamps
09-01-2012, 11:02 PM
Wow

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Needless to say, Phillips makes that play in his sleep. On the night he gets tossed for the first time in his career we lose on a walkoff error by the backup 2B.

HometownHero
09-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Embarrassing

mu4103
09-01-2012, 11:03 PM
"The name of the game is 'Win.' You're always going to try to find something you're not doing. It depends on how your outlook in life is. Are you a half-empty or half-full person? I find that most people are half-empty people. I don't deal with them. I don't listen to them." - Dusty Baker

I was reading this quote by Dusty and had to laugh. If you find that MOST people are half empty, doesn't that by definition make you a "glass is half empty person"?

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 11:04 PM
Any one still on the Valdez train? I'd send him packing today, and I am not even a knee jerk type of guy.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:04 PM
Eh...offense took the night off. Homer deserved better.

LexRedsFan
09-01-2012, 11:04 PM
....crap

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 11:05 PM
In Valdez' defense, its been a long season and it would have been asking a lot for him to bend down a few inches to field that ball.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:05 PM
This is the crap that got St. Louis in the playoffs last year.

Thanks Fletcher.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:05 PM
My guess is that Valdez is in the early ground ball line tomorrow.

Get em tomorrow.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Valdez is a solid backup defensive player, it was a play he'd make 99/100 times. He shouldn't have been in there though, Phillips got himself tossed.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:06 PM
And Marshall was the one who made that whole mess. He's been making a habit of doing that lately.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Taking bets on who starts the panic thread since we lost one game to the Astros.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:07 PM
In Valdez' defense, its been a long season and it would have been asking a lot for him to bend down a few inches to field that ball.

Lol ...Valdez was near the OF grass and that ball barely rolled into the OF grass.

That maybe saved us a few hours of life.

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 11:08 PM
Valdez is a solid backup defensive player, it was a play he'd make 99/100 times. He shouldn't have been in there though, Phillips got himself tossed.

WoW!

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:09 PM
Valdez is a solid backup defensive player, it was a play he'd make 99/100 times. He shouldn't have been in there though, Phillips got himself tossed.

There's a reason that Phillips has never been tossed in a decade.....he mumbled at most. Ridiculous that he was tossed....and it deserved a look

Mutaman
09-01-2012, 11:09 PM
That maybe saved us a few hours of life.

Also , the game might have gone on forever and somebody might have gotten hurt so maybe Valdez and Marshall saved our season. :)

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:10 PM
Also , the game might have gone on forever and somebody might have gotten hurt so maybe Valdez and Marshall saved our season. :)

Gives Chapman more rest.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:10 PM
WoW!

?

Red Raindog
09-01-2012, 11:11 PM
"The name of the game is 'Win.' You're always going to try to find something you're not doing. It depends on how your outlook in life is. Are you a half-empty or half-full person? I find that most people are half-empty people. I don't deal with them. I don't listen to them." - Dusty Baker

I was reading this quote by Dusty and had to laugh. If you find that MOST people are half empty, doesn't that by definition make you a "glass is half empty person"?

hilarious!

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:11 PM
I make that play 99% of the time.

My daughter makes that play 95% of the time and my 3rd grade son is 50/50 on that play.

Not sure why he didn't charge it.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:11 PM
hilarious!

And par for the course.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:13 PM
There's a reason that Phillips has never been tossed in a decade.....he mumbled at most. Ridiculous that he was tossed....and it deserved a look

Yeah I do agree, I don't think he deserved to be tossed for what he said. Ump probably had heard enough from his earlier at bat where he showed the ump up a little. It's not an issue, he never puts himself in that situation. Just funny how the first time it happens we lose like this.

Just one of those weird nights I guess.

Falcon7
09-01-2012, 11:13 PM
I make that play 99% of the time.

My daughter makes that play 95% of the time and my 3rd grade son is 50/50 on that play.

Not sure why he didn't charge it.

He's at least 70/30... C'mon Dad...

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 11:17 PM
?

You gotta make that play. It's really inexcusable, especially if you are a defensive player. He choked, plain and simple. Would you feel comfortable using him in the playoffs now? I know I wouldn't. If he can't hit and you can't trust him as a late inning replacement, what's the point?

For what it's worth, BP should have never been tossed. That was unbelievable.

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:20 PM
He's at least 70/30... C'mon Dad...

Nah....he's better at track

Ironman92
09-01-2012, 11:21 PM
Mor wins tomorrow

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:23 PM
You gotta make that play. It's really inexcusable, especially if you are a defensive player. He choked, plain and simple. Would you feel comfortable using him in the playoffs now? I know I wouldn't. If he can't hit and you can't trust him as a late inning replacement, what's the point?

For what it's worth, BP should have never been tossed. That was unbelievable.

Dude it was a Sept 1st game against the Astros. It was just an error, I don't think he caved under the immense pressure of the situation.

No need to worry about trusting him in the playoffs. He's not a defensive replacement, he's a utility player. He starts to stay fresh or when someone gets hurt....that doesn't happen in the playoffs. If he makes the roster I would assume it'd be to bunt and pinch run.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:29 PM
You gotta make that play. It's really inexcusable, especially if you are a defensive player. He choked, plain and simple. Would you feel comfortable using him in the playoffs now? I know I wouldn't. If he can't hit and you can't trust him as a late inning replacement, what's the point?

For what it's worth, BP should have never been tossed. That was unbelievable.

Really?

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 11:34 PM
Dude! That ball wasn't even hit hard... As the guy stated earlier, his son could have bare handed it. He choked. It was the bottom of the 9th and the bases were loaded. There was some pressure there. I bet he makes that play blind folded any other time. That wasn't just an error.

The season isn't over. Everything will be just fine. I just don't see the reason for him to be on the roster anymore. He doesn't really add anything, especially with the call ups.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Dude! That ball wasn't even hit hard... As the guy stated earlier, his son could have bare handed it. He choked. It was the bottom of the 9th and the bases were loaded. There was some pressure there. I bet he makes that play blind folded any other time. That wasn't just an error.

The season isn't over. Everything will be just fine. I just don't see the reason for him to be on the roster anymore. He doesn't really add anything, especially with the call ups.

Dude!!!!!!!!!!! Take a nap and come back tomorrow. Valdez is basically nil offensively but has been very solid defensively this season. He made an error. Nothing more, nothing less. No need for baseless over analysis.

Get em tomorrow.

Stray
09-01-2012, 11:37 PM
It's just an error, they happen to everyone.

MrRedLegger
09-01-2012, 11:40 PM
Better now than in mid october for this to happen. We'll get them tomorrow

dubc47834
09-01-2012, 11:46 PM
What a way to lose...gotta feel bad for Valdez. Why is it that Rage posted the rag on Bailey post at the beginning of the game then barely posted about him again.....oh yeah, because Bailey pitched a gem tonite. Dude is clueless!!!

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:47 PM
What a way to lose...gotta feel bad for Valdez. Why is it that Rage posted the rag on Bailey post at the beginning of the game then barely posted about him again.....oh yeah, because Bailey pitched a gem tonite. Dude is clueless!!!

Still waiting for him to comeback and blame tonight's loss on Bailey. You know he wants to.

Z-Fly
09-01-2012, 11:48 PM
Dude!!!!!!!!!!! Take a nap and come back tomorrow. Valdez is basically nil offensively but has been very solid defensively this season. He made an error. Nothing more, nothing less. No need for baseless over analysis.

Get em tomorrow.

Alright, this my last post on this. I said "Dude!" because the poster that I was replaying to said it in his.

Not all errors are created the same. That one was pretty bad. Probably the worst by any Red all season, and he is a defensive player.

Please don't tell me to take a nap. I feel like that was pretty disrespectful. I am entitled to my opinion.

Who Dey Time
09-01-2012, 11:56 PM
Alright, this my last post on this. I said "Dude!" because the poster that I was replaying to said it in his.

Not all errors are created the same. That one was pretty bad. Probably the worst by any Red all season, and he is a defensive player.

Please don't tell me to take a nap. I feel like that was pretty disrespectful. I am entitled to my opinion.

IMO, Bruce's in SF was worse.

The Rage
09-02-2012, 12:36 AM
Still waiting for him to comeback and blame tonight's loss on Bailey. You know he wants to.

Uh, ok. I predicted that Bailey would throw 2 gems in his back to back Astros starts. We are 1/2 of the way there. Then Baker would name him as the 4th starter in the playoffs, which will come back to haunt down the line.

Who Dey Time
09-02-2012, 12:59 AM
Uh, ok. I predicted that Bailey would throw 2 gems in his back to back Astros starts. We are 1/2 of the way there. Then Baker would name him as the 4th starter in the playoffs, which will come back to haunt down the line.

"Nope, this team is on a mission: Cueto,Arroyo,Latos,Leake. All these guys care a bunch. Leake has struggled more than I would have liked, but he fights so hard. They make a very determined and willful starting rotation."

Your post in another thread. One of many used to dig at Homer. Your hate is well chronicled and beyond reason. Case closed.

Ironman92
09-02-2012, 11:21 AM
IMO, Bruce's in SF was worse.

They looked equally ridiculous....Bruce was concerned about the wall, but neither had much focus on the overall play.

Neither crazy play bothered me....both were just shake your head game-ending moments.

DocRed
09-02-2012, 11:41 AM
They looked equally ridiculous....Bruce was concerned about the wall, but neither had much focus on the overall play.

Neither crazy play bothered me....both were just shake your head game-ending moments.

Bruce's play bothered me more because I don't expects plays like that from a GG caliber OFer. But ya it was just one error....