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fewfirstchoice
09-03-2012, 02:46 PM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

Ironman92
09-03-2012, 02:56 PM
K

mroby85
09-03-2012, 02:56 PM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

lol

HometownHero
09-03-2012, 03:02 PM
Will be hard for them not to give it to R.A. Dickey anyway.

fewfirstchoice
09-03-2012, 03:25 PM
Lol all you want. My post is 100% correct. Now let me lol at you.

tedies
09-03-2012, 03:59 PM
I agree actually, he has been coming back down to earth the last handful of starts

Ironman92
09-03-2012, 04:00 PM
So it's over? His last 5 starts have no merit?

Maker_84
09-03-2012, 04:02 PM
Hes a good pitcher but doesnt have elite talent and isnt even the most talented pitcher on his own team

BluegrassRedleg
09-03-2012, 04:05 PM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

You're right. No. 1 in W and No. 1 in ERA just won't cut it. I say they vote for Randy Wolf.

jback76
09-03-2012, 04:08 PM
He's still got a good shot but with maybe 5 starts left he needs w's not so so performances like this afternoon.

R_Webb18
09-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Hes a good pitcher but doesnt have elite talent and isnt even the most talented pitcher on his own team

so he's smarter than people with better stuff?

so he works harder?

ill take both of those things then.

i think he can still win it and even if he does not heck of a year

chuck6660
09-04-2012, 02:57 AM
If Cueto gets 4 wins in his next 5 starts and keeps his ERA under 2.50 it will be hard to deny him the CY. 3-4 strong outings at the end of the season along with 20-21 wins and a 2.50 (-) ERA and todays game will be forgotten.

Who Dey Time
09-04-2012, 09:09 AM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

So according to your premise, the voters are going to focus on a 3-batter stretch in one start and not, you know, the entirety of a 6-month season?

Sounds very reasonable :laugh:

Cicero2.0
09-04-2012, 10:36 AM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

:laugh:

Johnny's stats speak for themselves. Every pitcher has an occasional bad outing. Even Gregg Maddux had an occasional bad outing.

Ohayou
09-04-2012, 11:18 AM
Dickey has got Cueto beat in a number of categories, not to mention everybody is in love with his story. I think he's the favorite.

Bob Sheed
09-04-2012, 11:29 AM
Has anyone ever won the Cy Young but not been an all-star in the same year?

mroby85
09-04-2012, 12:13 PM
Dickey has got Cueto beat in a number of categories, not to mention everybody is in love with his story. I think he's the favorite.

I wonder why a Cy Young winner from a non-winning team is favored more than an MVP candidate from a non-winning team. I realize the obvious W/L, but players playing on winning teams also have more advantages offensively, RBI opportunities, runs scored, protection in the order, etc.

Also, I wondered that about Cueto too, i'm not sure if a Cy Young winner has done it, but I was thinking about that last week because when Votto won the MVP he was snubbed from the All-Star game by Manuel, even though he got in through the final fan vote.

Ironman92
09-04-2012, 12:47 PM
:laugh:

Johnny's stats speak for themselves. Every pitcher has an occasional bad outing. Even Gregg Maddux had an occasional bad outing.

Who?

mroby85
09-04-2012, 12:52 PM
Who?

Based on this post I wouldn't be surprised if you really didn't know who he meant, lol.

Ironman92
09-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Maddux won the Cy Young 4 straight years. He was 75-29 overall (1 for crappy Cubs, and 2 years were strike years missing 10 starts and 5 starts due to strike)....with a 1.89 ERA, led the league in innings all 4 years, led the league in complete games, shutouts and WHIP 3 of the years....also won 4 gold gloves.

Greg Maddux was pretty good.

MrRedLegger
09-04-2012, 12:57 PM
Cueto had a bad game and shouldn't be considered for the Cy Young.

Add it to the list...

We lost a series to a Tigers and we're at best a .500 team.

scott91575
09-04-2012, 01:05 PM
Has anyone ever won the Cy Young but not been an all-star in the same year?

Yes. It has happened 19 times. Most recently in 2010 when Felix Hernandez won the Cy Young.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2012, 04:57 PM
Yes. It has happened 19 times. Most recently in 2010 when Felix Hernandez won the Cy Young.

I stand corrected.

The note I cited pre-edit was John Denny was the only Cy Young Award winner to never appear in the All-Star Game.

smixsell
09-04-2012, 05:13 PM
Went bye bye with today's performance. Getting out pitched by an 0-1 rookie. Gave up back to back hits to the 8 and 9 hole men then a 3 run bomb on the next pitch in what was a 1-0 game. That's just not Cy Young material.

:eek: