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Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 03:13 PM
Phillips 2B
Heisey CF
Votto 1B
Ludwick LF
Bruce RF
Frazier 3B
Hanigan C
Valdez SS
Arroyo P

NebraskaRed
09-08-2012, 03:15 PM
More Heisey :thumbup: No Stubbs :thumbup:

Tuff Nut
09-08-2012, 03:30 PM
More Heisey :thumbup: No Stubbs :thumbup:More Valdez:thumbdown:

Ironman92
09-08-2012, 03:46 PM
Phillips leading off....not playing CF or SS.

Heisey is going after Ripken's streak

Valdez is batting 8th but is not catching

WTH?

NebraskaRed
09-08-2012, 04:06 PM
Dusty has to play Valdez. Who else is going to let game-winning balls roll right inbetween their legs? Only Valdez can offer that kind of promise.

NebraskaRed
09-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Also, this seems to be mlb.tv's free game of the day

texasdave
09-08-2012, 04:58 PM
Reds will be playing a man short for the next week or so per Fay's column. And, since Cincinnati's day-to-days always seem to drag on for weeks, who knows how long it will actually be.
Get ready for a whole lof of Valdez, Ugh. Earn your money, Wilson. BRM would be having a field day with this situation. LOL.



Shortstop Zack Cozart had an MRI that determined he has a left oblique strain. The best-case scenario is for Cozart to return sometime next week, Reds manager Dusty Baker said today. It had been thought that Cozart’s back was the problem. (By the Reds' crack medical staff. Surprise!) “It wasn’t his back,” Baker said. “Sometimes pain or injuries, they move. (Injuries move?) It appears one thing and then they come up with something else. He has a slight oblique (strain). He didn’t know until he went and got the MRI.”

texasdave
09-08-2012, 05:12 PM
In hopes of getting Soft V's bat going I am going to post some negative numbers about him. That usually works.

In his last 51 plate appearances Wilson Valdez has five hits. All Singles. He has drawn no walks. Zero. Zilch. Nada. That works out to this, more than impressive, slash line: .098/.098/.098/.196. His OPS is below the Mendoza Line. :eek:

Since he has no batting skills to speak of one might think he would be a pesky hitter, that he would work the pitcher and all that. Wrong. Valdez sees a miserable 3.43 pitches per plate appearance. He also swings at nearly 41% of the pitches that he sees that are outside of the strike zone. :eek:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1863&position=2B/SS

Ironman92
09-08-2012, 05:18 PM
In hopes of getting Soft V's bat going I am going to post some negative numbers about him. That usually works.

In his last 51 plate appearances Wilson Valdez has five hits. All Singles. He has drawn no walks. Zero. Zilch. Nada. That works out to this, more than impressive, slash line: .098/.098/.098/.196. His OPS is below the Mendoza Line. :eek:

Since he has no batting skills to speak of one might think he would be a pesky hitter, that he would work the pitcher and all that. Wrong. Valdez sees a miserable 3.43 pitches per plate appearance. He also swings at nearly 41% of the pitches that he sees that are outside of the strike zone. :eek:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1863&position=2B/SS

Clutch defense

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 05:27 PM
In hopes of getting Soft V's bat going I am going to post some negative numbers about him. That usually works.

In his last 51 plate appearances Wilson Valdez has five hits. All Singles. He has drawn no walks. Zero. Zilch. Nada. That works out to this, more than impressive, slash line: .098/.098/.098/.196. His OPS is below the Mendoza Line. :eek:

Since he has no batting skills to speak of one might think he would be a pesky hitter, that he would work the pitcher and all that. Wrong. Valdez sees a miserable 3.43 pitches per plate appearance. He also swings at nearly 41% of the pitches that he sees that are outside of the strike zone. :eek:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1863&position=2B/SS

It is going to be renamed "The Valdez Line":laugh:

texasdave
09-08-2012, 05:30 PM
It is going to be renamed "The Valdez Line":laugh:


Or maybe The Valley of Valdez. A hitter going poorly will said to be wandering lost and lonely in The Valley of Valdez. :laugh:

Cant Touch This
09-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Maybe it's time to see what Stubbs can do at SS. Even his numbers are superior to WIIIIIILLLLLLLSON!!!!

Stray
09-08-2012, 06:11 PM
I think we'll win big tonight.

WDE
09-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Dang it

WDE
09-08-2012, 07:21 PM
1-0 Astros

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 07:38 PM
Reds have scored 2, 2, 2, and 3 runs the past 4 games.........must do better than that even to beat the AAstros

Stray
09-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Valdez can't catch a break. Got a hold of one and the CF made a diving catch to rob his blooper.

texasdave
09-08-2012, 07:50 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuccccccccccceeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

texasdave
09-08-2012, 07:50 PM
Valdez can't catch a break. Got a hold of one and the CF made a diving catch to rob his blooper.

I thought it was out when he hit it. Out of the infield that is. :laugh:

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 07:52 PM
Does anybody know why Hannigan did not come in to catch Chapman last night as has been Baker's routine lately?

jhiller21
09-08-2012, 07:56 PM
What's with the look on Wallace's face after striking out both times? He's looking back at Arroyo like he just slept with his wife or something.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 08:07 PM
What's with the look on Wallace's face after striking out both times? He's looking back at Arroyo like he just slept with his wife or something.

He's just one ugly dude

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 08:28 PM
Not much to write about...Reds bats very quiet again.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 08:35 PM
Valdez's best hit ball of the year, and it's an out. Just no luck at all.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 08:42 PM
Reds offense sleeping through this one

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Bronson dodging bullets the last couple of innings.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Bronson not great but getting key outs when needed most.

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 08:52 PM
At least Valdez is not blowing easy groundballs a la last week. I guess we can't ask any more of him.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 08:53 PM
At least Valdez is not blowing easy groundballs a la last week. I guess we can't ask any more of him.

Valdez has been solid defensively all season. One bad one doesn't change that.

The Rage
09-08-2012, 08:57 PM
Dusty is probably happy with Heisey's bad game, looked over at Stubbs and winked........

Ludwick is revolving back into Luddite

Astros scared of Bruce

Frazier walks. My night is now complete.

Whole bunch of stuff happened

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Hanigan plays add on. 3-1.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Hanigan with a bloop single and an RBI. Still bases loaded and 1 out. Chance to blow it open.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 09:09 PM
Why not ph for Valdez here? Gregorius could finish at SS

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Valdez battling.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Why not ph for Valdez here? Gregorius could finish at SS

You're winning. No need at this point.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:12 PM
LOL. That works.

Stray
09-08-2012, 09:12 PM
lol Valdez

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 09:14 PM
Valdez with a 45 foot RBI fielders choice and an additional run on an error.

Changed from F/C to a hit.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:15 PM
BP could basically end all suspense with a hit.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Loaded for Heisey

Stray
09-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Doesn't look very happy

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:19 PM
Loaded for Heisey.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:20 PM
Quality AB.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 09:20 PM
heisey with a Stubbs hat trick

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 09:26 PM
The story of Heisey's career- just when it looks like he's about to take over a starting role, he throws in a game like this.

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 09:33 PM
Going into tonight, we have won 8 of the last nine Arroyo has started. Not too shabby.

improbus
09-08-2012, 09:33 PM
Are the Astros trying to start a fight?

Stray
09-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Gotta plunk an Astro to say enough. I'd wait till Bronson is out because I'd rather they feel it.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Votto plunked then pulled. Good idea with a 4 run lead. With Cueto going, I imagine he sits tomorrow.

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Dusty was writing something on his slate right after Votto got hit. I suspect the message gets sent by JC tomorrow.

The Rage
09-08-2012, 09:37 PM
Going into tonight, we have won 8 of the last nine Arroyo has started. Not too shabby.

While the Reds lose about everytime Bailey pitches. How sad.

Stray
09-08-2012, 09:38 PM
While the Reds lose about everytime Bailey pitches. How sad.

lol

FlyingPig
09-08-2012, 09:39 PM
Reds should plunk the Astros' star player.

Oh wait......

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:43 PM
While the Reds lose about everytime Bailey pitches. How sad.

Reds 15-13 in Homer's starts. Homer 2nd on team in QS. I know you don't care about facts but I felt it necessary to point it out to those who might be under the illusion that you post intelligently about Bailey.

The Rage
09-08-2012, 09:46 PM
Reds 15-13 in Homer's starts. Homer 2nd on team in QS. I know you don't care about facts but I felt it necessary to point it out to those who might be under the illusion that you post intelligently about Bailey.

Alot of those wins were earlier in the year. Then came the August swoon.....

I think he lost the respect of most of his teammates during that time. They don't seem to fight hard for him anymore.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Alot of those wins were earlier in the year. Then came the August swoon.....

I think he lost the respect of most of his teammates during that time. They don't seem to fight hard for him anymore.

What evidence do you have of this lack of respect other than your well documented hatred Of the guy?

And, for the record, if you actually believe that then its clear you know nothing about the game.

The Rage
09-08-2012, 09:53 PM
What evidence do you have of this lack of respect other than your well documented hatred Of the guy?

And, for the record, if you actually believe that then its clear you know nothing about the game.

Just the general attitude of the Reds players. By July, they seemed to really get behind him and support him. Then came that start against the Padres where he ran into a brick wall(out of the 4 game swoon, he had another very similiar start) by the 4th inning. I think doubts reemerged whether he could be a good starting pitcher. He looked just worn down in August. His fastball went completely dead and his splitter has really struggled. Doubts renewed.

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Just the general attitude of the Reds players.

Trust me, this is not evidence.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 09:58 PM
Just the general attitude of the Reds players. By July, they seemed to really get behind him and support him. Then came that start against the Padres where he ran into a brick wall(out of the 4 game swoon, he had another very similiar start) by the 4th inning. I think doubts reemerged whether he could be a good starting pitcher. He looked just worn down in August. His fastball went completely dead and his splitter has really struggled. Doubts renewed.

So, in other words, you have nothing to support your biased claim.

FWIW a lot of poster here would have a lot more respect for what you write if you would just man up and give Homer his due for what has been a solid season. Instead, you continue to hold on to this illusion that you do desperately wish were true.

I'd admire your persistence if it wasn't so pathetic.

The Rage
09-08-2012, 09:59 PM
So, in other words, you have nothing to support your biased claim.

FWIW a lot of poster here would have a lot more respect for what you write if you would just man up and give Homer his due for what has been a solid season. Instead, you continue to hold on to this illusion that you do desperately wish were true.

I'd admire your persistence if it wasn't so pathetic.

Solid season for a 10th round pick. But not a Top 10 OVERALL pick.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 10:01 PM
Solid season for a 10th round pick. But not a Top 10 OVERALL pick.

:laugh:

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Chris Welch just said that Willie Harris didn't work out that well. Could be the understatement of the decade.

Stray
09-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Nice big league debut

Ironman92
09-08-2012, 10:15 PM
Sit your butt down Heisey!

A 5 out game.

Phillips on base 4 times....nice

Phillips/Heisey combo has averaged about 4x on base per night.

Ironman92
09-08-2012, 10:16 PM
Good win tonight.

Take the series tomorrow!

I will predict a hilarious lineup....I'm feeling it.

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 10:17 PM
Nice moment for Rodriguez in the dugout.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 10:21 PM
magic number shrinking....Brewers 5-3 over Cards, top 9

Who Dey Time
09-08-2012, 10:27 PM
:beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme::beerme:

Reds win!!!

And, nice crowd in September. 35k+

Stray
09-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Well pitched game by the guys.

40YrRedsFan
09-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Brewers now 6-3 over Cards, still top 9

Mutaman
09-08-2012, 10:33 PM
Big Game Bronson. Usually pretty good in September.

jhiller21
09-08-2012, 10:37 PM
lmao at BP in the postgame interview

Ironman92
09-08-2012, 10:52 PM
lmao at BP in the postgame interview

What he do?

MrRedLegger
09-09-2012, 04:23 AM
Jim Day asked him what swag was and BP replied, "it's something that you don't have."

Straight clowning during the entire interview.

Dat Dude!!