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JaxRed
09-09-2012, 09:16 PM
Using the last post from 19Braves77 I could find

International League (AAA)
Buffalo Bisons - New York (NL) (signed through 2012)
Columbus - Extended to 2016
Indianapolis Indians - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Lehigh Valley IronPigs - Philadelphia (signed through 2012) Extended to 2016
Pawtucket Red Sox - Boston (signed through 2012)
Rochester Red Wings - Minnesota (signed through 2012) Extended 2014

Pacific Coast League (AAA)

Albuquerque Isotopes - Los Angeles (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Fresno Grizzlies - San Francisco (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Iowa Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Las Vegas 51s - Toronto (signed through 2012)
Memphis Redbirds - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Nashville Sounds - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
New Orleans Zephyrs - Miami (signed through 2012)
Oklahoma RedHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)
Reno Aces - Arizona (signed through 2012) Extended to 2016

Eastern League (AA)

Akron Aeros - Cleveland (signed through 2012)
Binghamton Mets - New York (NL) (signed through 2012) Extended to 2016
New Britain Rock Cats - Minnesota (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Richmond Flying Squirrels - San Francisco (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014


Southern League (AA)

Huntsville Stars - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
Jackson Generals - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Jacksonville Suns - Miami (signed through 2012)
Pensacola Blue Wahoos - Cincinnati (signed through 2012) Extended to 2016

Texas League (AA)

Arkansas Travelers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)

California League (A - Advanced)

Bakersfield Blaze - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
High Desert Mavericks - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Lake Elsinore Storm - San Diego (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Lancaster JetHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)
Modesto Nuts - Colorado (signed through 2012)
Rancho Cucamonga Quakes - Los Angeles (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
San Bernardino Inland Empire 66ers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)


Carolina League (A - Advanced)

Wilmington Blue Rocks - Kansas City (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014


Florida State League (A - Advanced)

Brevard County Manatees - Milwaukee (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Charlotte Stone Crabs - Tampa Bay (signed through 2012)
Daytona Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Fort Myers Miracle - Minnesota (signed through 2012)


Midwest League (A)

Beloit Snappers - Minnesota (signed through 2012)
Bowling Green Hot Rods - Tampa Bay (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Burlington Bees - Oakland (signed through 2012)
Cedar Rapids Kernels - Anaheim (signed through 2012)
Clinton Lumber Kings - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Dayton Dragons - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
Fort Wayne TinCaps - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Kane County Cougars - Kansas City (signed through 2012)
Lansing Lugnuts - Toronto (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Peoria Chiefs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Quad Cities River Bandits - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
South Bend Silver Hawks - Arizona (signed through 2012)


South Atlantic League (A)

Asheville Tourists - Colorado (signed through 2012) Extended to 2016
Augusta GreenJackets - San Francisco (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Greensboro Grasshoppers - Miami (signed through 2012)
Hagerstown Suns - Washington (signed through 2012)
Hickory Crawdads - Texas (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Lakewood Blue Claws - Philadelphia (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Lexington Legends - Houston (signed through 2012)


NY-Penn League (A - Short Season)

Aberdeen IronBirds - Baltimore (signed through 2012)
Batavia Muckdogs - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Hudson Valley Renegades - Tampa Bay (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Jamestown Jammers - Miami (signed through 2012)
State College Spikes - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Tri-City ValleyCats - Houston (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Vermont Lake Monsters - Oakland (signed through 2012)
Williamsport Crosscutters - Philadelphia (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014


Northwest League (A - Short Season)

Boise Hawks - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Eugene Emeralds - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Everett AquaSox - Seattle (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Salem-Keizer Volcanoes - San Francisco (signed through 2012)
Spokane Indians - Texas (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Tri-City Dust Devils - Colorado (signed through 2012)
Yakima Bears - Arizona (signed through 2012)


Appalachian League (Rookie - Short Season)

Burlington Royals - Kansas City (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014
Pulaski Mariners - Seattle (signed through 2012, possible extension to 2014)


Pioneer League (Rookie - Short Season)

Idaho Falls Chukars - Kansas City (signed through 2012) Extended to 2014

JaxRed
09-09-2012, 09:20 PM
So let's filter it to the remaining


International League (AAA)
Buffalo Bisons - New York (NL) (signed through 2012)
Indianapolis Indians - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Pawtucket Red Sox - Boston (signed through 2012)

Pacific Coast League (AAA)

Iowa Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Las Vegas 51s - Toronto (signed through 2012)
Memphis Redbirds - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Nashville Sounds - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
New Orleans Zephyrs - Miami (signed through 2012)
Oklahoma RedHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)

Eastern League (AA)

Akron Aeros - Cleveland (signed through 2012)

Southern League (AA)

Huntsville Stars - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
Jackson Generals - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Jacksonville Suns - Miami (signed through 2012)

Texas League (AA)

Arkansas Travelers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)

California League (A - Advanced)

Bakersfield Blaze - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
High Desert Mavericks - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Lancaster JetHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)
Modesto Nuts - Colorado (signed through 2012)
San Bernardino Inland Empire 66ers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)


Carolina League (A - Advanced)

None

Florida State League (A - Advanced)

Charlotte Stone Crabs - Tampa Bay (signed through 2012)
Daytona Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Fort Myers Miracle - Minnesota (signed through 2012)


Midwest League (A)

Beloit Snappers - Minnesota (signed through 2012)
Burlington Bees - Oakland (signed through 2012)
Cedar Rapids Kernels - Anaheim (signed through 2012)
Clinton Lumber Kings - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Dayton Dragons - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
Fort Wayne TinCaps - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Kane County Cougars - Kansas City (signed through 2012)
Peoria Chiefs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Quad Cities River Bandits - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
South Bend Silver Hawks - Arizona (signed through 2012)


South Atlantic League (A)

Greensboro Grasshoppers - Miami (signed through 2012)
Hagerstown Suns - Washington (signed through 2012)
Lexington Legends - Houston (signed through 2012)


NY-Penn League (A - Short Season)

Aberdeen IronBirds - Baltimore (signed through 2012)
Batavia Muckdogs - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Jamestown Jammers - Miami (signed through 2012)
State College Spikes - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Vermont Lake Monsters - Oakland (signed through 2012)



Northwest League (A - Short Season)

Boise Hawks - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Eugene Emeralds - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Salem-Keizer Volcanoes - San Francisco (signed through 2012)
Tri-City Dust Devils - Colorado (signed through 2012)
Yakima Bears - Arizona (signed through 2012)


Appalachian League (Rookie - Short Season)

Pulaski Mariners - Seattle (signed through 2012, possible extension to 2014)

Pioneer League (Rookie - Short Season)
None

19braves77
09-09-2012, 09:23 PM
here is updated list. Bold is teams that are shopping elsewhere. They have to wait until the 16th to sign new contracts.

International League (AAA)
Buffalo Bisons - New York (NL) (signed through 2012) Charlotte Knights - Chicago (AL) (signed through 2014)
Columbus Clippers - Cleveland (signed through 2016)
Durham Bulls - Tampa Bay (signed through 2014)
Gwinnett Braves - Atlanta (owned by Atlanta)
Indianapolis Indians - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Lehigh Valley IronPigs - Philadelphia (signed through 2016)
Louisville Bats - Cincinnati (signed through 2014)
Norfolk Tides - Baltimore (signed through 2014)
Pawtucket Red Sox - Boston (signed through 2014)
Rochester Red Wings - Minnesota (signed through 2014)
Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees - New York (AL) (signed through 2014; owned by New York (AL))
Syracuse Chiefs - Washington (signed through 2014)
Toledo Mud Hens - Detroit (signed through 2016)


Pacific Coast League (AAA)
Albuquerque Isotopes - Los Angeles (signed through 2014)
Colorado Springs Sky Sox - Colorado (signed through 2014)
Fresno Grizzlies - San Francisco (signed through 2014)
Iowa Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2016)
Las Vegas 51s - Toronto (signed through 2012)Memphis Redbirds - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Nashville Sounds - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
New Orleans Zephyrs - Miami (signed through 2014)
Oklahoma RedHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)
Omaha Storm Chasers - Kansas City (signed through 2016)
Reno Aces - Arizona (signed through 2016)
Round Rock Express - Texas (signed through 2014)
Sacramento River Cats - Oakland (signed through 2014)
Salt Lake Bees - Anaheim (signed through 2014)
Tacoma Rainiers - Seattle (signed through 2014)
Tucson Padres - San Diego (owned by San Diego)


Eastern League (AA)
Akron Aeros - Cleveland (signed through 2012)
Altoona Curve - Pittsburgh (signed through 2014)
Binghamton Mets - New York (NL) (signed through 2016)
Bowie Baysox - Baltimore (signed through 2014)
Erie SeaWolves - Detroit (signed through 2014)
Harrisburg Senators - Washington (signed through 2014)
New Britain Rock Cats - Minnesota (signed through 2014)
New Hampshire Fisher Cats - Toronto (signed through 2014)
Portland Sea Dogs - Boston (signed through 2014)
Reading Phillies - Philadelphia (signed through 2014; owned by Philadelphia)
Richmond Flying Squirrels - San Francisco (signed through 2014)
Trenton Thunder - New York (AL) (signed through 2022)


Southern League (AA)
Birmingham Barons - Chicago (AL) (signed through 2014)
Chattanooga Lookouts - Los Angeles (signed through 2014)
Huntsville Stars - Milwaukee (signed through 2012)
Jackson Generals - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Jacksonville Suns - Miami (signed through 2012)
Mississippi Braves - Atlanta (owned by Atlanta)
Mobile BayBears - Arizona (signed through 2014)
Montgomery Biscuits - Tampa Bay (signed through 2014)
Pensacola Blue Wahoos - Cincinnati (signed through 2016)
Tennessee Smokies - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2014)


Texas League (AA)
Arkansas Travelers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)
Corpus Christi Hooks - Houston (signed through 2016)
Frisco RoughRiders - Texas (signed through 2014; owned by Texas)
Midland RockHounds - Oakland (signed through 2014)
Northwest Arkansas Naturals - Kansas City (signed through 2016)
San Antonio Missions - San Diego (signed through 2014)
Springfield Cardinals - St. Louis (owned by St. Louis)
Tulsa Drillers - Colorado (signed through 2014)


California League (A - Advanced)
Bakersfield Blaze - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
High Desert Mavericks - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Lake Elsinore Storm - San Diego (signed through 2014)
Lancaster JetHawks - Houston (signed through 2012)Modesto Nuts - Colorado (signed through 2014)
Rancho Cucamonga Quakes - Los Angeles (signed through 2014)
San Bernardino Inland Empire 66ers - Anaheim (signed through 2012)
San Jose Giants - San Francisco (owned by San Francisco)
Stockton Ports - Oakland (signed through 2016)
Visalia Rawhide - Arizona (signed through 2016)


Carolina League (A - Advanced)
Carolina Mudcats - Cleveland (signed through 2014)
Frederick Keys - Baltimore (signed through 2014)
Lynchburg Hillcats - Atlanta (signed through 2014)
Myrtle Beach Pelicans - Texas (signed through 2014)
Potomac Nationals - Washington (signed through 2014)
Salem Red Sox - Boston (owned by Boston)
Wilmington Blue Rocks - Kansas City (signed through 2014)
Winston-Salem Dash - Chicago (AL) (signed through 2014)


Florida State League (A - Advanced)
Bradenton Marauders - Pittsburgh (owned by Pittsburgh)
Brevard County Manatees - Milwaukee (signed through 2014)
Charlotte Stone Crabs - Tampa Bay (signed through 2014)
Clearwater Threshers - Philadelphia (owned by Philadelphia)
Daytona Cubs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Dunedin Blue Jays - Toronto (owned by Toronto)
Fort Myers Miracle - Minnesota (signed through 2012)
Jupiter Hammerheads - Miami (owned by Miami)
Lakeland Flying Tigers - Detroit (owned by Detroit)
Palm Beach Cardinals - St. Louis (owned by St. Louis)
St. Lucie Mets - New York (NL) (owned by New York (NL))
Tampa Yankees - New York (AL) (owned by New York (AL))


Midwest League (A)
Beloit Snappers - Minnesota (signed through 2012)
Bowling Green Hot Rods - Tampa Bay (signed through 2014)
Burlington Bees - Oakland (signed through 2012)
Cedar Rapids Kernels - Anaheim (signed through 2012)
Clinton Lumber Kings - Seattle (signed through 2012)
Dayton Dragons - Cincinnati (signed through 2012)
Fort Wayne TinCaps - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Great Lakes Loons - Los Angeles (signed though 2014)
Kane County Cougars - Kansas City (signed through 2012)
Lake County Captains - Cleveland (signed through 2014)
Lansing Lugnuts - Toronto (signed through 2014)
Peoria Chiefs - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Quad Cities River Bandits - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
South Bend Silver Hawks - Arizona (signed through 2014)
West Michigan Whitecaps - Detroit (signed through 2018)
Wisconsin Timber Rattlers - Milwaukee (signed through 2016)


South Atlantic League (A)
Asheville Tourists - Colorado (signed through 2016)
Augusta GreenJackets - San Francisco (signed through 2014)
Charleston Riverdogs - New York (AL) (signed through 2016)
Delmarva Shorebirds - Baltimore (signed through 2014)
Greensboro Grasshoppers - Miami (signed through 2012)
Greenville Drive - Boston (signed through 2016)
Hagerstown Suns - Washington (signed through 2012)
Hickory Crawdads - Texas (signed through 2014)
Kannapolis Intimidators - Chicago (AL) (signed through 2014)
Lakewood Blue Claws - Philadelphia (signed through 2014)
Lexington Legends - Houston (signed through 2012)
Rome Braves - Atlanta (owned by Atlanta)
Savannah Sand Gnats - New York (NL) (signed through 2012)
West Virginia Power - Pittsburgh (signed through 2014)


NY-Penn League (A - Short Season)
Aberdeen IronBirds - Baltimore (signed through 2012)
Auburn Doubledays - Washington (signed through 2014)
Batavia Muckdogs - St. Louis (signed through 2012)
Brooklyn Cyclones - New York (NL) (owned by New York (NL))
Connecticut Tigers - Detroit (signed through 2014)
Hudson Valley Renegades - Tampa Bay (signed through 2012)
Jamestown Jammers - Miami (signed through 2012)
Lowell Spinners - Boston (signed through 2014)
Mahoning Valley Scrappers - Cleveland (signed through 2014)
State College Spikes - Pittsburgh (signed through 2012)
Staten Island Yankees - New York (AL) (owned by New York (AL))
Tri-City ValleyCats - Houston (signed through 2014)
Vermont Lake Monsters - Oakland (signed through 2014)
Williamsport Crosscutters - Philadelphia (signed through 2014)


Northwest League (A - Short Season)
Boise Hawks - Chicago (NL) (signed through 2012)
Eugene Emeralds - San Diego (signed through 2012)
Everett AquaSox - Seattle (signed through 2014)
Salem-Keizer Volcanoes - San Francisco (signed through 2014)
Spokane Indians - Texas (signed through 2014)
Tri-City Dust Devils - Colorado (signed through 2014)
Vancouver Canadians - Toronto (signed through 2014)
Yakima Bears - Arizona (signed through 2012)


Appalachian League (Rookie - Short Season)
Bluefield Blue Jays - Toronto (signed through 2014)
Bristol White Sox - Chicago (AL) (owned by Chicago (AL))
Burlington Royals - Kansas City (signed through 2014)
Danville Braves - Atlanta (owned by Atlanta)
Elizabethton Twins - Minnesota (owned by Minnesota)
Greeneville Astros - Houston (owned by Houston)
Johnson City Cardinals - St. Louis (owned by St. Louis)
Kingsport Mets - New York (NL) (owned by New York (NL))
Princeton Rays - Tampa Bay (owned by Tampa Bay)
Pulaski Mariners - Seattle (signed through 2012, possible extension to 2014)


Pioneer League (Rookie - Short Season)
Billings Mustangs - Cincinnati (signed through 2014)
Grand Junction Rockies - Colorado (signed through 2012; owned by Colorado)
Great Falls Voyagers - Chicago (AL) (signed through 2014)
Helena Brewers - Milwaukee (signed through 2014)
Idaho Falls Chukars - Kansas City (signed through 2014)
Missoula Osprey - Arizona (signed through 2016)
Ogden Raptors - Los Angeles (signed through 2014)
Orem Owlz - Anaheim (signed through 2014)

JaxRed
09-10-2012, 08:46 PM
I wonder if Dayton is looking around? You wouldn't think so, but it's awfully late to not have extended, and the Reds have done a pitiful job over the last few years (except 2011) of giving them competitive teams.

Same here in Jacksonville. I wonder if Marlins are thinking about "seeing other people"?

JaxRed
09-10-2012, 08:50 PM
The Grasshoppers re-upped with Miami

mth123
09-10-2012, 08:51 PM
I wonder if Dayton is looking around? You wouldn't think so, but it's awfully late to not have extended, and the Reds have done a pitiful job over the last few years (except 2011) of giving them competitive teams.

Same here in Jacksonville. I wonder if Marlins are thinking about "seeing other people"?

I'm confused. I thought the Reds had control of any affiliated team so close to their territory. Not an ownership, but they have to give permission for a team so close. Is that wrong?

JaxRed
09-10-2012, 09:00 PM
Could be. Not sure.

Hypnotoad
09-11-2012, 08:11 AM
I'm confused. I thought the Reds had control of any affiliated team so close to their territory. Not an ownership, but they have to give permission for a team so close. Is that wrong?

I recall something about that as well.

texasdave
09-11-2012, 11:51 AM
Territorial Limits: Expanded between the 1990 and 1994 Major League Rules to include not just a club's home city, but also surrounding counties. As additional territorial protection, Rule 52 allows a major league club to block any other major or minor league clubs from playing within 15 miles of its territory without permission.

19braves77
09-11-2012, 03:52 PM
I also recently read that Dayton can never move up a affiliation level.

19braves77
09-11-2012, 03:53 PM
Nashville and Brewers renew for two years.


O.C Redhawks and Astros renew for two years.

19braves77
09-12-2012, 03:36 PM
Boise and Cubs renew for 2 more years

Eugene and Padres renew for two more years

19braves77
09-12-2012, 05:12 PM
Suns and Jacksonville renew for two years.

Danny Serafini
09-12-2012, 07:53 PM
Reds just reupped with Bakersfield for two more years.

Benihana
09-12-2012, 10:49 PM
Reds just reupped with Bakersfield for two more years.

Was hoping they'd come back East for high A ball.

JaxRed
09-13-2012, 03:11 PM
There was nowhere for them to go....

redsof72
09-13-2012, 08:25 PM
Just to address a couple of items in this thread:

1) Could Dayton affiliate with someone other than the Reds? Not without the Reds permission, meaning in reality, no. Reds control the territory.

2) Could Dayton ever be a Double-A or Triple-A franchise? There is nothing to prevent this from happening, as long as it was with the Reds. Will it ever happen? Highly doubtbul. Mandalay owns a Midwest League franchise that is located in Dayton. Lots of moving parts would be required to buy another franchise, move it to Dayton, and then move the Midwest League franchise there to a new city. Highly unlikely. Would not make good business sense.

Rumors: Reds are looking to add a seventh farm club as a Northwest League affiliate. Would allow players who are ineligible to play for a Rookie level team (Billings) to have a place to play before going to Dayton.

Some other rumors: Kane County and the Cubs may happen. Cardinals could then go to Peoria, opening Quad Cities for someone. Astros might be a candidate.

mth123
09-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Just to address a couple of items in this thread:

1) Could Dayton affiliate with someone other than the Reds? Not without the Reds permission, meaning in reality, no. Reds control the territory.

2) Could Dayton ever be a Double-A or Triple-A franchise? There is nothing to prevent this from happening, as long as it was with the Reds. Will it ever happen? Highly doubtbul. Mandalay owns a Midwest League franchise that is located in Dayton. Lots of moving parts would be required to buy another franchise, move it to Dayton, and then move the Midwest League franchise there to a new city. Highly unlikely. Would not make good business sense.

Rumors: Reds are looking to add a seventh farm club as a Northwest League affiliate. Would allow players who are ineligible to play for a Rookie level team (Billings) to have a place to play before going to Dayton.

Some other rumors: Kane County and the Cubs may happen. Cardinals could then go to Peoria, opening Quad Cities for someone. Astros might be a candidate.

I'm glad to hear that the Reds are looking to add a short season A team. That should help to develop some kids who have already done the Rookie levels and can't make it in Dayton yet.

JaxRed
09-13-2012, 11:13 PM
Just to address a couple of items in this thread:


Rumors: Reds are looking to add a seventh farm club as a Northwest League affiliate. Would allow players who are ineligible to play for a Rookie level team (Billings) to have a place to play before going to Dayton.
.

72..... Is the rumor that they are taking over an existing team or creating a new one?

Tuff Nut
09-13-2012, 11:52 PM
There was nowhere for them to go....
Possibly, but was there not the opportunity, in Florida? I'm just asking/curious.....I did notice a few of those teams were only signed thru this season.

JaxRed
09-14-2012, 01:35 AM
Technically there was a chance as Daytona and Minnesota have not resigned yet, but both teams have been with the same club for 20 years. It wasn't going to happen. And Twins do spring training in Ft Myers just like Rays do training in Port Charlotte. Matches made in heaven.

muddie
09-14-2012, 10:31 AM
The Brewers and Huntsville have extended for two more years.

muddie
09-14-2012, 10:38 AM
Some other rumors: Kane County and the Cubs may happen. Cardinals could then go to Peoria, opening Quad Cities for someone. Astros might be a candidate.

Out of curiosity, why would the Cards move back to Peoria? They were there for ten years before they moved to Quad cities. Check me on this and let me know if I'm mistaken. I was looking at this about a week ago. Quad cities has an absolutely beautiful park right on the river as well.
I just don't get the logic in this and yes, you said rumor so we'll see I guess.

19braves77
09-14-2012, 02:18 PM
Out of curiosity, why would the Cards move back to Peoria? They were there for ten years before they moved to Quad cities. Check me on this and let me know if I'm mistaken. I was looking at this about a week ago. Quad cities has an absolutely beautiful park right on the river as well.
I just don't get the logic in this and yes, you said rumor so we'll see I guess.

In the Midwest League, it's about travel. Mapquest a bus trip from Quad Cities to Beloit, then to Lake County, then to Bowling Green.

redsof72
09-14-2012, 02:32 PM
The Midwest League rumors are only rumors at this point. But Peoria is the best location for the Cardinals geographically. I do not know the history of the Cardinals move out of Peoria...not sure that they wanted to leave.

As I am sure you know, lots of reasons why a partnership would end other than just the quality of the ballpark. You have personalities involved. Many other factors too. For the record, I am not as big a fan as you of that ballpark. The view of the river is great, yes. Anytime I go in there, the place looks trashy. Last few times I went in there, I couldn't believe how messy the park looked. I have always believed you can look at the small details in a minor league park (cleanliness of the park, is the scoreboard operator constantly off, are they starting their games on time, etc.) and that will tell you about the whole front office. If they let little things go that fans see, they probably let bigger things go to. They also have had a high number of postponements traditionally, many beyond their control due to flooding, but still, big league clubs want their players playing the full schedule or close to it.

muddie
09-14-2012, 03:35 PM
The Midwest League rumors are only rumors at this point. But Peoria is the best location for the Cardinals geographically. I do not know the history of the Cardinals move out of Peoria...not sure that they wanted to leave.

As I am sure you know, lots of reasons why a partnership would end other than just the quality of the ballpark. You have personalities involved. Many other factors too. For the record, I am not as big a fan as you of that ballpark. The view of the river is great, yes. Anytime I go in there, the place looks trashy. Last few times I went in there, I couldn't believe how messy the park looked. I have always believed you can look at the small details in a minor league park (cleanliness of the park, is the scoreboard operator constantly off, are they starting their games on time, etc.) and that will tell you about the whole front office. If they let little things go that fans see, they probably let bigger things go to. They also have had a high number of postponements traditionally, many beyond their control due to flooding, but still, big league clubs want their players playing the full schedule or close to it.

Thanks for the feedback. Your points are right on and well taken. I have no first hand experience at the Devenport park. The pictures I had seen were pretty nice. St. Louis moved the Low A team from Savannah, Ga. to Peoria. From Peoria they went to Davenport. Not knowing the circumstances...thought it odd they would return to Peoria.

muddie
09-14-2012, 06:32 PM
Marlins and Greensboro extend through 2014.

muddie
09-14-2012, 09:53 PM
Not a PDC but...

The Charlotte Knights of the International League have broken ground on a new downtown ballpark. The team will begin play there in 2014. This will literally move the Charlotte Knights back into North Carolina as they have played their games for years in Fort Mills, S.C.

The Knights were swept by Pawtucket in the International League Championship playoffs this week.

muddie
09-16-2012, 06:10 PM
Out of curiosity, why would the Cards move back to Peoria? They were there for ten years before they moved to Quad cities. Check me on this and let me know if I'm mistaken. I was looking at this about a week ago. Quad cities has an absolutely beautiful park right on the river as well.
I just don't get the logic in this and yes, you said rumor so we'll see I guess.


FWIW...

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120831&content_id=37656760&vkey=pr_t565&fext=.jsp&sid=t565

19braves77
09-17-2012, 02:55 PM
Twins looking at Quad Cities today

Astros looking at Fort Wayne which with Dayton control the Midwest League. If the Astros can get in there, that is major coup for the Astros.

Its crazy to think that the Padres or Oakland could be stuck in Beloit, Wisconsin.

muddie
09-17-2012, 08:29 PM
The Cardinals are relocating one farm team.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120917&content_id=38571596&fext=.jsp&vkey=pr_milb

TOBTTReds
09-18-2012, 03:16 PM
The Cardinals are relocating one farm team.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120917&content_id=38571596&fext=.jsp&vkey=pr_milb

This also signals the end of the Pirates there, as they go to Jamestown now. Pirates had offered a 4 year deal to ST College and it was turned down. They didn't want to do a 2 year deal, which STC wanted. The Spikes GM had made some comments in June about them wanting a playoff team at St. College (you read that right).

19braves77
09-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Fort Wayne and Padres for 2 more years.

Cedar Rapids and Twins contract hasnt been signed yet so it could fall about...

Doc. Scott
09-19-2012, 06:12 PM
If the Reds got a Northwest League affiliate going... that would be sweet. One NWL team is already moving nearby. (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/business-beat/2012/2613772.html)

JaxRed
09-19-2012, 07:23 PM
I wonder if the team Milwaukie Oregon is working with is the Reds.

Doc. Scott
09-19-2012, 07:55 PM
The deal didn't go through on the first go-round because their city council couldn't agree on the ballpark. I haven't heard if the deal is completely dead or just dormant.

muddie
09-21-2012, 09:02 AM
The Lexington Legends of the South Atlantic League signed a PDC with the Kansas City Royals through 2016. Lexington parts ways with Houston with this agreement.

klw
09-21-2012, 10:49 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120921&content_id=38785484&notebook_id=38785490&vkey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin


• The Reds announced Friday that they have signed a four-year extension of their player development contract with the Class A Dayton Dragons, guaranteeing the affiliation through the 2016 season.

The Dragons have served as the Reds' Midwest League affiliate since 2000, when the Minor League franchise was established.

muddie
11-01-2012, 06:12 PM
The Cardinals did leave Quad Cities for Peoria. Looks like the Astros now call QC home. The Cubs are now in Kane County.

M2
11-14-2012, 01:01 PM
Rumors: Reds are looking to add a seventh farm club as a Northwest League affiliate. Would allow players who are ineligible to play for a Rookie level team (Billings) to have a place to play before going to Dayton.

Love the idea, though I'd vastly prefer it to be a NY-Penn League team. The Northwest League has a way of making hitters overconfident and turning pitchers into head cases.

I'd much rather prospects playing in run environments closer to the actual thing.

On a somewhat related note, the Reds need to get out of the Cali league after 2014. Moving to its polar opposite, the FSL, may not be a better solution, though if the Reds could land in Tampa (where they have decades of history) it would make some sense. A Carolina League affiliate has always been my preference.

muddie
11-19-2012, 08:52 AM
When the Reds were with Lynchburg a few years back, Lynchburg was eager to rid themselves of the Cincy affiliate as it was in some ways a shotgun wedding to begin with. I emailed the Lynchburg GM a couple of times fishing for some indication as to whether or not he would have any interest in keeping Cincy in Lynchburg. He stressed how the Reds would love to stay in Lynchburg but it was obvious through his responses that he had no intention of re-upping with Cincy. As soon as the PDC ended with Cincy, Lynchburg immmediately affiliated themselves with Atlanta as they moved from Myrtle Beach to Lynchburg.
All of that to say this...I hoped a little bit justice would play out recently when Wilmington voted on a park. Lynchburg was saved when the referendum was defeated. In a cynical way I was hoping Lynchburg would lose Atlanta to Wilmington after they were so eager to see Cincy go.