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dougdirt
09-27-2012, 01:33 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/league-top-20-prospects/2012/2614089.html


2. Robert Stephenson, rhp, Billings (Reds)
5. Jesse Winker, of, Billings (Reds)
10. Dan Langfield, rhp, Billings (Reds)
11. Jeff Gelalich, of, Billings (Reds)
18. Seth Mejias-Brean, 3b, Billings (Reds)
20. Ismael Guillon, lhp, Billings (Reds)

Worthy notes: Gelalich had an injured hand during the season (which could explain the production). Pat Kelly (Billings manager who also managed Scott Rolen as a prospect) compared SMB to Rolen (the BA writer says that is a bit much).

Jon Moscot reportedly would have made the list had he had one more inning to qualify, which would have pushed Guillon off the list.

Scrap Irony
09-27-2012, 02:01 PM
They don't seem to think all that much of Guillon, but I love to see both Stephenson and Winker in their top five. Four in the top 11? Yes, please.

Would they could do that in other leagues as well!

(Perhaps AA-- I could see Hamilton, Corcino, and Cingrani go top 11, though a fourth may be too much.)

19braves77
09-27-2012, 02:04 PM
David Dahl would have looked good in Cincy Red. Addison Russell also....

dougdirt
09-27-2012, 02:11 PM
They don't seem to think all that much of Guillon, but I love to see both Stephenson and Winker in their top five. Four in the top 11? Yes, please.

Would they could do that in other leagues as well!

(Perhaps AA-- I could see Hamilton, Corcino, and Cingrani go top 11, though a fourth may be too much.)

I could see Gregorius making it in the AA Top 20.

I think they like Guillon from the scouting report.

Again though, it should be noted, that the league rankings don't always reflect the team rankings that will come out later. The league rankings are more based on what managers/coaches in the league put out there (or at least have in the past), rather than what the scouts are seeing/thinking.

lollipopcurve
09-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Solid group. Nice to see a mix of pitching and hitting. Really intrigued by SMB, as he supposedly has a lot of athleticism -- I have to wonder how high his ceiling is.

dougdirt
09-27-2012, 03:24 PM
Solid group. Nice to see a mix of pitching and hitting. Really intrigued by SMB, as he supposedly has a lot of athleticism -- I have to wonder how high his ceiling is.

I don't want to give away too much of their "for pay" content, but from the scouting report, I would say potentially an average 3B hitter with very strong defense.

texasdave
09-27-2012, 06:48 PM
Along with Drew Cisco, they had some pretty stout pitching. High schooler Sal Romano as well.

Steve4192
09-28-2012, 12:11 PM
They don't seem to think all that much of Guillon, but I love to see both Stephenson and Winker in their top five. Four in the top 11? Yes, please.

Would they could do that in other leagues as well!

(Perhaps AA-- I could see Hamilton, Corcino, and Cingrani go top 11, though a fourth may be too much.)

Cingrani and Hamilton have a chance to make the top 10 in both the California and the Southern leagues.

Benihana
09-28-2012, 04:37 PM
David Dahl would have looked good in Cincy Red. Addison Russell also....

Courtney Hawkins also.

I worry that 2012 might be the year that breaks the Reds unbelievable run of successful first round draft picks. It's obviously WAYYYYYYYYY too early to make a call, but the Travieso selection was a curious one from the start- kind of like Hayden Simpson or Matt Hobgood in previous years.

dougdirt
09-28-2012, 05:29 PM
Courtney Hawkins also.

I worry that 2012 might be the year that breaks the Reds unbelievable run of successful first round draft picks. It's obviously WAYYYYYYYYY too early to make a call, but the Travieso selection was a curious one from the start- kind of like Hayden Simpson or Matt Hobgood in previous years.

What is not to like with Travieso? Big time arm, shows two offspeed pitches with promise.

lollipopcurve
09-28-2012, 06:26 PM
but the Travieso selection was a curious one from the start- kind of like Hayden Simpson or Matt Hobgood in previous years.

I wouldn't go that far. Travieso was shaping up as a late-first/supplemental pick. Simpson was projected well below the 1st round, and Hobgood was the #5 overall pick. In my book, he was a minor surprise, not a major one.

redsof72
10-04-2012, 10:42 AM
The 2012 Billings team has been compared by some to the 2006 Mustangs in terms of depth of quality talent. That club had Stubbs, Heisey, Valaika, Dorn, Francisco, Jordan Smith, Josh Roenicke, Justin Turner, Travis Webb and a number of players that were solid low-minors types like Logan Parker and Jason Louwsma. Most of those players moved up to Dayton in 2007 and the Dragons started the year by going 24-5. I am hoping the similarities are valid.

lollipopcurve
10-04-2012, 11:51 AM
The 2012 Billings team has been compared by some to the 2006 Mustangs in terms of depth of quality talent. That club had Stubbs, Heisey, Valaika, Dorn, Francisco, Jordan Smith, Josh Roenicke, Justin Turner, Travis Webb and a number of players that were solid low-minors types like Logan Parker and Jason Louwsma. Most of those players moved up to Dayton in 2007 and the Dragons started the year by going 24-5. I am hoping the similarities are valid.

Nice to hear. Seems to me the 2012 Billings group has significantly better pitching than the 2006 group. If they line up Stephenson, Guillon, Moscot, Langfield, Cisco and Romano at Dayton -- they've got a prospect rich 6 man rotation! (Which means they won't all be there, of course.)

Scrap Irony
10-04-2012, 06:16 PM
Not only does next season's Dragon club look pitching-rich, it should also boast a very nice lineup. Led by prospects Winker, Mejias-Brean, Vincej, a fully-healthy Gelalich, and interesting bats like Carlos Sanchez and Brandon Dailey, plus the return of 6th round pick (and possible catcher of the future) Joe Hudson from Notre Dame, that lineup-- while not stacked with prospects, could man seven of the eight starting spots with gys OPSing 800 or better in Billings.

Bakersfield will be horrid, though, and AA Pennsacola doesn't look to be much better on paper. Jocketty and company may want to think about both minor league veteran free agents and a couple deals wherein actual prospects are acquired. (A deal of, say, Mike Leake and a couple relievers may warrant a decent haul.)