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jhiller21
10-05-2012, 10:10 PM
The Cards, wild card winners, will start their series with Washington at home. The Reds on the other hand, tied with Wash for the best record in the NL, both start on the road.

I still haven't actually figured out how or why Selig changed this. It's like picking the 2nd best kid in the group first to play on your team. Doesn't make any sense.

They play 162 games for a reason. The all star home field advantage in the WS was bad enough.

DocRed
10-05-2012, 10:12 PM
Bud Selig

jhiller21
10-05-2012, 10:15 PM
I suppose Selig was thinking it would increase revenue somehow... I just can't figure out how.

Fans are going to watch/attend no matter what, so why give the advantage to teams that don't deserve it?

arkimadee
10-05-2012, 10:17 PM
The whole idea of this format was because they decided on the second wild card at the last minute this season, they had to eliminate a travel day in the post season and making the wildcard round a 2-3 format instead of a 2-2-1 format was the only way to do. This is so stupid. I can understand not wanting to extend the season any longer because of tv contracts. I get that. I don't understand why everyone needs a travel day. All season teams from a city on one night and play in another the next night. It's called a road trip. If both teams have to travel after a previous game then neither team has any kind of advantage. I'm sure players would take the extra travel over not being in the playoffs at all. just sayin

webbbj
10-05-2012, 10:18 PM
im pretty sure it had to with trying to decrease how long the playoffs last. with the normal 2-2-1 format you have 2 road trips instead of one. I think with the late start and finish to the season they wanted to decrease travel to not have the season go into november.

foxfire123
10-05-2012, 10:21 PM
I heard part of their excuse was so the teams "could clinch (or lose) in front of the home crowds"

webbbj
10-05-2012, 10:21 PM
arkimadee is right and its a dumb reason. big deal the season will end on Nov 3 instead of Nov 1. Big deal Bud Selig have a playoff that has logic to it. Everything else I like tho. But division winners opening on the road is dumb.

jhiller21
10-05-2012, 10:22 PM
I guess if we lose the first two at SF, we have a little better chance of winning the next three at home, but it would be rare. It still makes zero sense to me.

And I'm already hating the second wild card. Quit trying to squeeze every last dollar out of the game Selig, and let's just play ball.

Ironman92
10-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Bud Selig just flat out sucks.

jhiller21
10-05-2012, 10:29 PM
I heard part of their excuse was so the teams "could clinch (or lose) in front of the home crowds"

All the more reason to play a 3-2 series at home for the teams with the better records ;)

HometownHero
10-05-2012, 10:38 PM
I hate everything about the added WC, this Rangers and O's game should be a game 163 so by adding they all it did was make money and cost Atlanta. If they wanted to make it hard on the WC winner in the old format they should award the team with the best recoded 5 home games vs the WC winner.

The whole make them spend their good pitcher is bogus this year since if the O's hold on both of the WC winners will have their rotations lined up exactly how they want with a chance to take down the #1 seeds and both get that at home for game 1 and 2.

jhiller21
10-05-2012, 11:06 PM
Ultimately this is turning the MLB into the whole "everyone's a winner" mentality.

You play 162 games, and even if you're not that great, you have a chance to squeak by a better team by playing one game. Oh, by the way, you get to start the LDS at home, too...

HalMorrisRules
10-05-2012, 11:33 PM
arkimadee is right and its a dumb reason. big deal the season will end on Nov 3 instead of Nov 1. Big deal Bud Selig have a playoff that has logic to it. Everything else I like tho. But division winners opening on the road is dumb.

TV network prime time schedules are set and they arent going to move them for baseball. Dont you know? TV rules everything!

osuredleg24
10-06-2012, 12:17 AM
going back to the 2-2-1 next year FWIW

texasdave
10-06-2012, 12:22 AM
arkimadee is right and its a dumb reason. big deal the season will end on Nov 3 instead of Nov 1. Big deal Bud Selig have a playoff that has logic to it. Everything else I like tho. But division winners opening on the road is dumb.

This is absolutely correct. The season already had the possibility of ending in November. Seriously, what is another day or two? Bud Selig is a fool. They should have waited another year then instead of having this ignorant crap of the better team starting on the road for the first two games. I have a feeling that this is gonna be a Selig of a postseason.

Magdal
10-06-2012, 12:42 AM
This is absolutely correct. The season already had the possibility of ending in November. Seriously, what is another day or two? Bud Selig is a fool. They should have waited another year then instead of having this ignorant crap of the better team starting on the road for the first two games. I have a feeling that this is gonna be a Selig of a postseason.Totally agee...why are there ANY off days in the post season??! It favors the team with the best 4 man rotation instesd of the 5 that they have been playing with all season!

And why must all the series' starting days be pre scheduled? If both pennant winners do it in 4, the WS STILL won't start for 4 more days! TV rules all.

Fullboat
10-06-2012, 02:38 AM
And this year only,the networks want all this done before the election.

RedsFaninAfrica
10-06-2012, 08:49 AM
This second wild card idea is definitely a work in process and so far it's a bad process for sure. The one game play in seems like a joke to me and the 2-3 format is ... well just plain stupid.

Tuff Nut
10-06-2012, 11:34 AM
2 leagues, top 6 teams per make POs, 6 plays 3, 4 gets 5, top 2 get a 'bye' week. #1 gets lowest seed left after first round, #2 the other. Kinda simple if ya ask me......BUT, they didn't ask my opinion.

texasdave
10-06-2012, 11:56 AM
Totally agee...why are there ANY off days in the post season??! It favors the team with the best 4 man rotation instead of the 5 that they have been playing with all season!

I couldn't agree more. If television wants the postseason to last longer then make the NLDS AND NLCS both best of seven. Make the World Series best of nine or best of 11.
No freakin' days off. If a team wants some time off then sweep the series they are playing in. It is not reflective of the team when you can start an ace 3 games out of seven. In essence your ace pitches three games. Your number two pitches twice. And your number three and number four once each. It is a totally different game in the playoffs as opposed to the regular season.

RedsFaninAfrica
10-06-2012, 01:37 PM
Wouldn't it knock your socks off if Sir Bud asked the fans if they had an opinion on the post season? Let us respond via the website. Okay, I know it's totally unrealistic that Bud would even care, but I'm just sayin' ...

R_Webb18
10-06-2012, 01:49 PM
its b/c they wanted everyone to have a home game. since it was last minute they went with format. this is why im guessing next year starts on a Monday again. i think i read like only 20% go to a game 5. I would of done it 1 3 1 but thats me.

faffy42
10-06-2012, 04:29 PM
Its fine. Reds just have to take one in sf and its all good, advantage in our favor. If we lose both in sf then we get what we deserve by havng to sweep em at home.

PumpFak3First
10-06-2012, 08:00 PM
It's only going to be a one year thing from what I hear. The schedule was already decided before they changed the playoff rules so this was what was implemented.

scott91575
10-07-2012, 02:38 AM
It's only going to be a one year thing from what I hear. The schedule was already decided before they changed the playoff rules so this was what was implemented.

Yes, it's a 1 year thing. They shoehorned in the 2nd wildcard, and it was not needed. Should have just gone with a 2nd wild card next year.

Anyway, no one would agree to eliminate a travel day, and Fox paid a metric ton of money for the WS and league championship games. They wanted the days the NLCS, ALCS, and WS to stay the way they were. So MLB was left with one decision, a 3-2 series or a 2-3 series. Owners worried that they may make the playoffs and not get a single home game, so the only answer was 2-3.

My personal opinion is 1) the second wild card could have waited a year, 2) if they really needed it a travel day could be eliminated, and 3) if you really need a travel day screw the team with the worse record and make it 3-2, if they wanted a home game they should have won more games or won a game in the playoffs. Yet none of those are very compromising points of view.

LexRedsFan
10-07-2012, 10:50 AM
After last night, we see the benefit of this format. We just have to go 2-1 in Cincinnati now.

goreds2
10-07-2012, 11:37 AM
I actually love this format. For the Reds, there is no way to have an elimination game on the road.

RedsFaninAfrica
10-07-2012, 12:50 PM
After last night, we see the benefit of this format. We just have to go 2-1 in Cincinnati now.

Optimistically, I'm thinking we are going to win tonight and we'll only have to go 1-0 at home. SWEEP

Farney
10-07-2012, 02:18 PM
Is there still going to be this home-field disadvantage in the NLCS? Or will the series actually open up for the higher seed then?

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 03:39 PM
Its working in the Tigers favor 6 games worse than the A's in regular season but go back to Oakland up 2-0 meaning the A's could win 94 games and get one home playoff game.