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WDE
10-06-2012, 07:15 PM
Saw one on the ORG, didn't see one here.

Coco Crisp leads off A's-Tigers series with a HR against Verlander.

texasdave
10-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Austin Jackson leads off the home half of the first for the Tigers with a double. He eventually scores to tie things up at 1.

WDE
10-06-2012, 08:30 PM
C'mon A's! Down 2-1 headed to the bottom of the 4th.

WDE
10-06-2012, 10:03 PM
Tigers take game 1.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:41 PM
Nats up 1-0 after one and a half after a big 2 out single by Suzuki and the Tigers walk-off the A's to go up 2-0 in the series.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 04:44 PM
Nats up 1-0 after one and a half after a big 2 out single by Suzuki and the Tigers walk-off the A's to go up 2-0 in the series.

Yeah...Waino had a mini meltdown with the bottom of the order...Werth came up w/the bases loaded but grounded out weakly.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 04:45 PM
Tigers take game 1.UP 2 on the upstart A's

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:50 PM
Gonzalez is too pumped up for this game he is falling behind every single hitter, its another reason why lesser teams hosting games 1 and 2 is a terrible format. Its many of these guys first playoff exposure and its coming on the road making it a big disadvantage.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:51 PM
Now 8-for-8 first pitch balls for Gio

Magdal
10-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Walkin' the world!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Walked the bases load for Wainwright, looking like yet another team wanting to hand the Cardinals a win with them doing much to earn it.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:54 PM
Now all 9 hitters have opened with first pitch balls from Gio

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:56 PM
Fitting a wild pitch ties it up at 1-1, this is a Rick Ankiel level choke. Wainwright walked to reload the bases.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 04:56 PM
He's a wild man!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 04:58 PM
A Jay SF gives the Cardinals 2-1 lead, Gio has yet to throw a first pitch strike to first 10 batters.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 04:59 PM
Fitting a wild pitch ties it up at 1-1, this is a Rick Ankiel level choke. Wainwright walked to reload the bases.Yep...but I bet Baker does'nt let him throw 8 of 'em before he pulls him like La Russa did!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:01 PM
Took the 11th hitters before getting ahead on the first pitch, 2 runs on no hits makes the Cardinals playoff totals 8 runs on 6 hits

Magdal
10-07-2012, 05:12 PM
Took the 11th hitters before getting ahead on the first pitch, 2 runs on no hits makes the Cardinals playoff totals 8 runs on 6 hits

They are certainly going to start hitting at SOME point in this post season....ain't they???

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:19 PM
They are certainly going to start hitting at SOME point in this post season....ain't they???

Unfortunately they will but no need to right now if teams are bending over backwards to hand you runs with minimum effort. They have 6 hits in 12 innings and two of those are a weak bloop to right and a ball that went 80 feet up the line the pitcher picked up late scoring a run from 2nd.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:22 PM
The shadows are about to makes things hard on the hitters so the Nats better make something happen.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:26 PM
Danny Espinosa is killing the Nats early, comes up with back-to-back K's on two of the worst AB I've ever seen.

texasdave
10-07-2012, 05:26 PM
A tidy little 37-pitch second for Gio. Nice.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:29 PM
Nice take out slide by Desmond to break up the DP and get Gio out of the way this inning.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Nats in serious trouble Wainwright has his A+ curve ball for one of the first times all year and now the Shadows are in play. The need to keep it close and hope they walk into a HR somewhere along the lines.

With no Strasburg and not burning a key starter in WC game the Cardinals have a great rotation match up this series.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:46 PM
This umps zone sucks been off all night but he just called ball 3 in what would be a 3-0 count a strike on Harper after a Werth single. Harper ended up with a K on a full count of a ball a foot outside called a strike has changed the game greatly.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 05:53 PM
The Nats are choking out

Magdal
10-07-2012, 05:56 PM
A tidy little 37-pitch second for Gio. Nice.Both ptchers have thrown a bunch 'o pitches...I look to see the pen for both teams before the 7th

Magdal
10-07-2012, 05:58 PM
The Nats are choking outHuh??? It's a 1 run game and Waino's curve is filthy! I see no choke...Atlanta was the choke.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Gio had a game similar to this a few weeks back, also against the cards. Near implosion and gave up 3 runs before settling down next inning and the Nats won. Hasn't settled as much here but it's no EJax outing and, bottom line, they're just a run back. He's thrown a lot of pitches though. Pen will need to come in soon. Need Harper, Zim, LaRoche or Werth to come alive at the plate.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:02 PM
BTW, only my 2nd day here on RZ and didn't realize there was a place to chat about non-Reds games. Love it since I'm DC based and follow the Nats too.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:05 PM
BTW, only my 2nd day here on RZ and didn't realize there was a place to chat about non-Reds games. Love it since I'm DC based and follow the Nats too.Welcome to the board Mr. #! Tell me...how good is the Nats pen, who we will see soon?

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:06 PM
Huh??? It's a 1 run game and Waino's curve is filthy! I see no choke...Atlanta was the choke.

They walked 4 guys in a inning and also added a WP to score 2 and they have K'ed every time they get into a position for situational hitting.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:08 PM
Umpire killed Gio on the missed strike 3 call on Beltran

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:09 PM
Pen is solid though, for my money, not quite to the level of our pen (Reds). Matheus, Stammen, Gorzelanny or Michael Gonzalez -- one of those likely next depending on the matchup. Burnett usually sets up later. The Nat's not so secret bullpen weapon is Drew Storen, the resurrected, defacto closer. The more secret weapon is Garcia. Young guy with great stuff who was one of the last adds to the roster. I'd personally like to see him starting in place of EJax, who makes any Nats follower extremely nervous.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:11 PM
Many will say lucky to escape the 5th unscathed but Gio deserves big credit. He's a superb pitcher who, with an obviously off day, held the Cards to just 2 runs. Highest walk number of the year though. He won't go past the 6th I don't think. Pitcher's spot doesn't come up next inning unless there's a serious rally.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:12 PM
Gio's line today is
5 IP
1 Hit
2 ER
5 K
7 BB
110 pitchers

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:13 PM
They walked 4 guys in a inning and also added a WP to score 2 and they have K'ed every time they get into a position for situational hitting.Well, that's kinda Waino's (and most good pitchers) M.O. to bear down with men on base.

The Cards choked out in that last inning...I swear Holliday is overpaid and needs to be batting 6th with Beltran BEHIND him!

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:15 PM
It's a strange game. Lots of walks. Lots of baserunners. Very little scoring relatively. Nats have a tendency to win whacked-out games like this. Has happened a lot this year. Outings like this, where the Nats win, are why Gio's unlikely to get the Cy Young. That'll be RA's I think.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:15 PM
Many will say lucky to escape the 5th unscathed but Gio deserves big credit. He's a superb pitcher who, with an obviously off day, held the Cards to just 2 runs. Highest walk number of the year though. He won't go past the 6th I don't think. Pitcher's spot doesn't come up next inning unless there's a serious rally.Thanks for the bullpen 411, and may I add he's been very tough exept for that 2nd inning when his curve was whacked out.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:16 PM
Well, that's kinda Waino's (and most good pitchers) M.O. to bear down with men on base.

The Cards choked out in that last inning...I swear Holliday is overpaid and needs to be batting 6th with Beltran BEHIND him!

Are you not watching the game and seeing all the bad AB they are taking? The Cardinals should have never even had a inning last frame the ump gave Beltran a walk when the pitch was a strike.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the bullpen 411, and may I add he's been very tough exept for that 2nd inning when his curve was whacked out.

Can't agree entirely. He's been tough enough. Beyond the 2nd, too many walks but, bottom line, he has keep them in the game and made it very winnable. That's the difference between a Gio bad day and an EJax bad day where we go down 8-10 runs before you can blink.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:18 PM
Frickin' Espinosa. I swear, he's Stubbs with more power and bit more ego.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:19 PM
3 inning in a row with a lead off single for the Nats, but then they do noting but miss pitches or pop up, Espinosa has put up 3 atrocious AB today he hit a long foul and missed everything else by 3 feet or took pitches down the middle.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:20 PM
One other note on the Nats' pen. Tyler Clippard. Classic example of how the Yankees are great at offloading their problems when others don't realize it. Bigtime controversial. Was the closer most of the year because Storen was out recovering from surgery. Has been totally unreliable the past few months. Davey kept putting him in, mostly in big lead situations and the guy would give up a run or two or more every time. Storen's now the closer without any announcement being made about it. I hope we don't see Clippard at all this post season unless there's at least a 5 run Nats lead.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:22 PM
Morse is a beast and carries that nickname. Strongest on the team. Longest homers.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:23 PM
Bet few expected Gio to outlast Waino the way this game has gone.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:25 PM
Wow he pulled Wainwright here based off a 4 AB sample size vs Bernadina

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:25 PM
Bringing Lance Lynn in here is a mistake...the guy gave up more 1st inning runs on the team as a starter! Good shot here for the Nats.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:26 PM
Wow he pulled Wainwright here based off a 4 AB sample size vs Bernadina Son 'o La Russa!:(

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:27 PM
4 pitch walk...hmmmmm

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:28 PM
This ump strikes again, starting to think this is rigged

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:28 PM
This is big. Two outs but noone works a count like Werth on this team. Very unconventional leadoff hitter. Was a genius stroke when Davey put him there a few months ago. C'mon!

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:30 PM
This is big. Two outs but noone works a count like Werth on this team. Very unconventional leadoff hitter. Was a genius stroke when Davey put him there a few months ago. C'mon!He looked pretty bad there I'm afraid.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:30 PM
Aaarghhh! Werth's not usually a big K guy. It's okay. They can close a 1 or 2 run gap quickly and the guys to do it will be up next. Stammen in from the pen. Pretty reliable innings eater.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:31 PM
Jayson Werth swings on one knee to see the Nats fall to 1-for-6 with RISP. That first strike call was total BS, the Cardinals have got 4 or 5 strike calls on balls 6-8 inches outside while Gio was getting squeezed on most every close pitch out side one called on Descalso to strike him out.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:33 PM
Jayson Werth swings on one knee to see the Nats fall to 1-for-6 with RISP. That first strike call was total BS, the Cardinals have got 4 or 5 strike calls on balls 6-8 inches outside while Gio was getting squeezed on most every close pitch out side one called on Descalso to strike him out.

Agreed but not a huge deal. Lineup is potent and more typically last 3 inning producers.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:34 PM
I get the impression that they want no part of Molina....but he's pushing it ahead in the count again.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 06:35 PM
You just can't beat the flipping Cardinals.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Molina and Posey are the best catchers in baseball.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:37 PM
You just can't beat the flipping Cardinals.

You could if you stop beating yourself.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:38 PM
LOL on that one. That catch was like what Harper does all the time. Werth less often and usually hurts himself when he does it.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 06:38 PM
Aaarghhh! Werth's not usually a big K guy. It's okay. They can close a 1 or 2 run gap quickly and the guys to do it will be up next. Stammen in from the pen. Pretty reliable innings eater.

156
147
160

His strikeout totals his past 3 full seasons.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:39 PM
Werth brings back a HR, the Cards could be robbed of two HR and go to 2-0 in the playoffs, they rather get their runs handed to them anyway.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:40 PM
Shu will do nadda

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:40 PM
Always nice to hit the .236 lifetime minor league hitter with two outs

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:41 PM
156
147
160

His strikeout totals his past 3 full seasons.

Bigger story around those #s. Was a disaster last year. Money this year. OBP. He's all about that. I'm not going to look up the OBP #s right now but that's where you'd see his value. Whether it's $126 million of value is a different question...and a fair debate.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:42 PM
And that's why Shumacher doesn't get more playing time. Classic Stammen inning except for the HBP.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:44 PM
Molina and Posey are the best catchers in baseball.This little Nats catcher is impressing me...he's taking a beating back there and stopping everything.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 06:45 PM
Can't beat em

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:45 PM
They said that was the defensive play of the game about 3 guys after a HR was brought back in.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:46 PM
This little Nats catcher is impressing me...he's taking a beating back there and stopping everything.

Everyone in OAK is po'ed about Suzuki. He's produced big in DC; didn't for OAK.

Announcers just called the Descalso play the "defensive play of the game." Huh? How about the Werth play 10 minutes ago?

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:46 PM
Always nice to hit the .236 lifetime minor league hitter with two outsCome on man...this kid lead the Cards in OBP, batting Ave AND slugging since he replaced Furcal in Sept!!!

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:48 PM
Come on man...this kid lead the Cards in OBP, batting Ave AND slugging since he replaced Furcal in Sept!!!

I like Kozma. Reminds me a bit of Cozart. And his straight face when he told media he was camped under the ball vs ATL was way better than Golden Tate claiming he didn't know anything about pushing off.

scott91575
10-07-2012, 06:48 PM
They said that was the defensive play of the game about 3 guys after a HR was brought back in.

It had to be the greatest defensive play of all time because the greatest player of all time was the hitter. Harper doesn't make outs, only great defensive plays stop him.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:48 PM
Everyone in OAK is po'ed about Suzuki. He's produced big in DC; didn't for OAK.

Announcers just called the Descalso play the "defensive play of the game." Huh? How about the Werth play 10 minutes ago?What do ya' expect Man? That geezer Enberg can't remember his wife's name!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:49 PM
Come on man...this kid lead the Cards in OBP, batting Ave AND slugging since he replaced Furcal in Sept!!!

Which played do you honestly think he is the one who was good for the 82 PA this year or the one who sucked over the 2774 PA he had in the minors and in the majors last season?

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:49 PM
What do ya' expect Man? That geezer Enberg can't remember his wife's name!

Point conceded. :)

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:52 PM
The Cardinals getting Mujica saved their season, it took most of the game out of Matheny's hands and slotted the last 3 innings rather than him using random guys in the 7th and 8th depended on situation.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:53 PM
More hijinks go the Cardinals way

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Which played do you honestly think he is the one who was good for the 82 PA this year or the one who sucked over the 2774 PA he had in the minors and in the majors last season?It happens all the time that an iffy minor league hitter comes up and slugs it for a month or two until the "book" on him is established....right now, Kosma is very dangerous. (at this time);)

Now let's see what Holiday does here!

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:54 PM
Error the right call on the LaRoche toss. Have to stop any thoughts of insurance runs now or Stammen will be yanked.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 06:54 PM
Unbeatable

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:55 PM
It happens all the time that an iffy minor league hitter comes up and slugs it for a month or two until the "book" on him is established....right now, Kosma is very dangerous. (at this time);)

Now let's see what Holiday does here!

Nobody hits in the .230's for over 2400 AB in the minors and becomes a good MLB hitter, nobody! The only reason he wasn't released before now is that they spent 1st round money on him.

WDE
10-07-2012, 06:56 PM
Well, Cards are probably gonna take game 1. Or at least it looks that way as Holiday is plunked to have the bases loaded no outs.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:56 PM
Huge AB here! Craig could do big damage.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 06:56 PM
Clipped 2 jerseys, bad hop, 47 walks....

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:57 PM
OK. Now this is bad news. Stammen out as predicted. Another run won't be a big deal. Another 2 or 3 would mean a Nats loss. My view anyway. Disappointing outing for Stammen.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 06:57 PM
Error, Single HBP and the Nats have the sacks packed with no ours. I think people are starting to catch on to just how lucky they honestly are, if they do win the WS they will have 3 of the 4 worst records to even do so and already have 2 of the 3 worst if they don't.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:58 PM
Clipped 2 jerseys, bad hop, 47 walks....Unbeatable?

1940757690
10-07-2012, 06:58 PM
Well, Cards are probably gonna take game 1. Or at least it looks that way as Holiday is plunked to have the bases loaded no outs.

Though of course you may be proven right, way too early to say that.

He says as they get 1st out at the plate.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 06:59 PM
OK. Now this is bad news. Stammen out as predicted. Another run won't be a big deal. Another 2 or 3 would mean a Nats loss. My view anyway. Disappointing outing for Stammen.I concur....Molina is the last hope in this inning

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:00 PM
Wow. Washington gets out of it.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:00 PM
And THAT, my new RZ friends, is some sweet relief.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:00 PM
Wow big escape but only have 6 outs to go or they will lose on a 4 walk inning with no hits.

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:01 PM
I still think Cards take this game. Something about the Cards and the playoffs that results in a lot of Cards success.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:01 PM
Wow big escape but only have 6 outs to go or they will lose on a 4 walk inning with no hits.

C'mon, a little optimism for the Nats here? Whether or not you're a Nats followers, we're all aligned in wanting the Cards out, right?

Which reminds me, why Arroyo tonight? Never mind, different thread.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:02 PM
No outs and bases loaded and the Nats d it up and get out unscathed....series turning moment, but they'll go 0 for their next 5 chances and lost 2 or 3 to 1.

Can't
Beat
Cardinals

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:02 PM
And THAT, my new RZ friends, is some sweet relief.That, some may say could be a momentum changer!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:03 PM
C'mon, a little optimism for the Nats here? Whether or not you're a Nats followers, we're all aligned in wanting the Cards out, right?

Which reminds me, why Arroyo tonight? Never mind, different thread.

I want the Cards out some on here want to play the them, I jut call it like I see it. Washington could rip the Cards hearts out with a win, but it could be equally crushing if the Nats lose giving up 3 hits and serving them a critical game on with bad baseball.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:03 PM
I still think Cards take this game. Something about the Cards and the playoffs that results in a lot of Cards success.

Past results are not predictive of future performance. Cards shmards. The Nats are a totally new baseball phenomenon. A win here for them would reset all the expectations. I give it 50/50 odds just because I've seen the Nats do this too many times this year, mostly in person.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Got the first guy on yet again maybe they will clutch up.

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Erorr on Cozma(SS). 1 man on no out.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Ouchie

DP coming

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:04 PM
Ian Desmond's a rock star ascendant. Five tools.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:04 PM
C'mon, a little optimism for the Nats here? Whether or not you're a Nats followers, we're all aligned in wanting the Cards out, right?

Which reminds me, why Arroyo tonight? Never mind, different thread.
Oddly, most of the RZ faithful would rather play the best team in Baseball than the Cards....go figure.

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:05 PM
Ian Desmond's a rock star ascendant. Five tools.

By the way, great username. :thumbup:

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:05 PM
Ian Desmond's a rock star ascendant. Five tools.

Wrench
Hammer
Screwdriver
Drill
Saw

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:06 PM
1st and 3rd....no outs

Good at bats pls

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Desi's 3rd hit of the day. Nats will go ahead to stay here.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:06 PM
Show up Danny Espinosa

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
Good comparison between Stubbs and Espinoza

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
What a weak minded player

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
Whaaaa? Bunt?

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
What I scoop....horse crap

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
By the way, great username. :thumbup:

Thank you! Looking forward to changing it in a few weeks. Can you do that here on RZ? not sure about the mods.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Reds need to learn to bunt like that!

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Desi's 3rd hit of the day. Nats will go ahead to stay here.Most likely...the Cards don't deserve to win this #@&@# game anyway!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:08 PM
2nd time in as many games a team bunted with 1st and 3rd on the Cardinals.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:09 PM
By the way, great username. :thumbup:

Yeah...you call that number and get a pizza delivered for $12

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:09 PM
Tracy leads what we call the "goon squad" (bench) here in DC. Bigtime pinch hitter with power. C'mon Kurt!

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:10 PM
Strikeout coming

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Strikeout coming

So easy to see

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Thank you! Looking forward to changing it in a few weeks. Can you do that here on RZ? not sure about the mods.

Yes you can.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
That bunt was so dumb, I would just give them 2 outs for free to tie the game.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Quit swinging for homers!!!!

A crapper gives you the lead

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Scrabble coming in to pitch

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:12 PM
Darn! That was the OAK Suzuki, not the new DC Suzuki. Need Tracy to deliver here. Think this could be the game. This AB.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:13 PM
Maybe the Cardinals will give back the gift run they got on a WP but throwing one themselves.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:14 PM
No outs and bases loaded and the Nats d it up and get out unscathed....series turning moment, but they'll go 0 for their next 5 chances and lost 2 or 3 to 1.

Can't
Beat
Cardinals

Yep

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
The Nats take strikes and swing at balls

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Maybe the Cardinals will give back the gift run they got on a WP but throwing one themselves.

It would bounce back off the bricks and strike the runner in the ear hole knocking him out short of the plate...for the easy tag out.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
YES!

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Wow! Clutch 2 run single by Tyler Moore.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Man I hate to see that.

/tears

bigredmechanism
10-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Boom. Sorry Crads.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:17 PM
Matheny broke from the script and it cost him

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:17 PM
Oppo gets it done!!!! Swinging for homers doesn't get it!

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:18 PM
Quit swinging for homers!!!!

A crapper gives you the lead


Yep


The Nats take strikes and swing at balls

Gentlemen, meet the Nats. What have I been saying? Nats are for real. Do this ALL THE TIME. Burnett and Storen will play Broxton Chapman here shortly.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:18 PM
Hold these dudes for 6 more outs, sucks they actually due for a legit run.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:19 PM
Quit swinging for homers!!!!

A crapper gives you the leadHe must have heard you Man....nice little poke there to seal the deal for these no clutch Cardinals!!!

I guarantee that the Redbird forums are exploding due to the lefty "specialist", Scrabble coming in there! (Ala La Russa)

NebraskaRed
10-07-2012, 07:20 PM
The Nats have to stop the Cards in their bird-tracks. They have to.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:20 PM
It would bounce back off the bricks and strike the runner in the ear hole knocking him out short of the plate...for the easy tag out.:laugh:

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:21 PM
The Nats have to stop the Cards in their bird-tracks. They have to.

Oh, they will, husker. They will. Can't tell you how much I look forward to a Reds/Nats LCS. Would be most awesome (and expensive).

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:22 PM
Clippard! See upthread. Hopefully he surprises all of his who've gotten to know him well. Most nervous I've been this entire game. Can't remember the last time Clippard had a 1-2-3 inning. Biggest weakness in our pen.

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:23 PM
Error on 3rd baseman. Freese on to start the bottom of the 8th

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:23 PM
WTF I was going to type earlier but didn't want to jinx it but I was dead sure Zimmerman was going to cost them at least one game with his throwing issues.

scott91575
10-07-2012, 07:24 PM
Here comes the Cardinals luck. Just like the Braves handing them the win, the Nats will do their best to hand the Cards a win too.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:24 PM
Error on 3rd baseman. Freese on to start the bottom of the 8th

3rd baseman is the heart of the franchise. Ryan Zimmerman. UVA grad; been here since the beginning in '05. Great player. Gold glove in '10 but has been oddly error prone in '12. They keep talking about his "odd throwing motion." I don't think that's the problem but it has been a problem this year.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:25 PM
Cards the worst bunting team in the NL

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:25 PM
I wish he went to second looked like they would have had him

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:25 PM
I HATE that! Playing for the tie instead of the win.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:26 PM
That wasn't such a bad bunt. Nats played it conventionally and conservatively but think they might have gotten a DP there had they tried.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:26 PM
Cards the worst bunting team in the NL

Well the lead the league in swing bunts singles so it evens out.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:27 PM
About time the Nats got some off the plate.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:27 PM
What is up with this announcing crew? Just called the Nats catcher "Suzuski." Does he look Polish?

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:28 PM
Well the lead the league in swing bunts singles so it evens out.LOL...true.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:29 PM
What is up with this announcing crew? Just called the Nats catcher "Suzuski." Does he look Polish?

Dick Stockton is one of the worst announcers in baseball about names I think he said Matt Matheny earlier on the pitching change.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:30 PM
What is up with this announcing crew? Just called the Nats catcher "Suzuski." Does he look Polish? Far eastern Poland;)

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:31 PM
WOW I'll take that

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:31 PM
3rd baseman is the heart of the franchise. Ryan Zimmerman. UVA grad; been here since the beginning in '05. Great player. Gold glove in '10 but has been oddly error prone in '12. They keep talking about his "odd throwing motion." I don't think that's the problem but it has been a problem this year.

It's completely mental....his fielding is off the chart great, but then he does a calculus problem in his head and then throws it over there like he has duct tape wrapped around his body holding in his arm.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Geez...that ball was way outsde.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:32 PM
wow! I'm stunned. Amazing work by Clippard mostly because he has been so consistently awful since mid summer.

We should be good here. Storen will close it out next inning. Any insurance run(s) of course gravy.

Reds/Nats LCS. Need to figure out how to put that in my signature line here.

Red Raindog
10-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Geez...that ball was way outsde.

yup --- I'm crying here

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:33 PM
Geez...that ball was way outsde.

Victory in Jesus

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:33 PM
This ump should be taken from the playoffs after this game he's been terrible all game.

JB12
10-07-2012, 07:33 PM
It's completely mental....his fielding is off the chart great, but then he does a calculus problem in his head and then throws it over there like he has duct tape wrapped around his body holding in his arm.

:laugh: I couldn't describe this any better.

Crazy how he seemingly lost his throwing motion... I don't recall it looking like that a couple years ago.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:33 PM
It's completely mental....his fielding is off the chart great, but then he does a calculus problem in his head and then throws it over there like he has duct tape wrapped around his body holding in his arm.

Love this. Literally laughed out loud. Thing is--it's a new phenomenon in 2012. Maybe it's a new side effect of cortisone. He's had four shots so far this season. Will take the occasional errors given what he's been doing offensively since he got the first shot mid year.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:34 PM
:laugh: I couldn't describe this any better.

Crazy how he seemingly lost his throwing motion... I don't recall it looking like that a couple years ago.

Exactly. It's new. JB--are you in VA or IL?

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Al Borland in to pitch

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:35 PM
wow! I'm stunned. Amazing work by Clippard mostly because he has been so consistently awful since mid summer.

We should be good here. Storen will close it out next inning. Any insurance run(s) of course gravy.

Reds/Nats LCS. Need to figure out how to put that in my signature line here.Sorry, but I don't know how to do that kinda stuff....BTW, what is the baseball climate in the DC erea? A lotta buzz?

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:35 PM
How is this rain delay going to screw with our game, will they move it to MLB network?

JB12
10-07-2012, 07:36 PM
Exactly. It's new. JB--are you in VA or IL?

Haha, neither, actually.

In the great state of Ohio -- scrunched between Columbus and Dayton, right on i70.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Sorry, but I don't know how to do that kinda stuff....BTW, what is the baseball climate in the DC erea? A lotta buzz?

No worries. Easy enough to figure out after the games are over. Most boards use similar platforms.

Climate here is pretty off the charts. The city didn't have baseball for 30 years and, partly due to that, there's really hand wringing over the nats vs skins. Especially a day like today--the first time in anyone's life here that the redskins (with RGIII against the best in the NFL this year: ATL) at the same time as the first baseball playoff game for a DC team in 79 years. there were radio talk shows on that topic the past two days. We've been averaging around 30K for the season in a very nice new park.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:38 PM
I'd like to take a weed eater and make crop circles in Motte's beard forest.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:38 PM
I'd like to take a weed eater and make crop circles in Motte's beard forest.

Can get a twofor with Wilson.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:39 PM
How is this rain delay going to screw with our game, will they move it to MLB network?

TNT has been the channel for overlapping games so far.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:40 PM
TNT has been the channel for overlapping games so far.

Cool, thanks

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:41 PM
LaRoche has been the core of the team this year. Not so much this game but if you check his 2012 numbers, near the top in most categories.

Now, Drew Storen. 43 saves last year. Just back to his old form after missing most of the season recovering from off season surgery. Stanford guy. Great stuff. This will be his biggest moment yet in his career. I'm excited for you guys not familiar with him to see this. He's no Chapman but he's quite effective.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:41 PM
Glad to see the best part of the lineup...ugh

Jon Jay will prolly strikeout and get to 3rd on throwing errors score on an infield bulk.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:41 PM
Lets get 3 more outs and make this a best of 3 series at Washington at the worst.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Lets get 3 more outs and make this a best of 3 series at Washington at the worst.

We want to make it a sweep. Not predicting that but what better setup could there be than a CIN/WAS LCS with both teams meeting undefeated in postseason? Can dream.

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:43 PM
Glad to see the best part of the lineup...ugh

Jon Jay will prolly strikeout and get to 3rd on throwing errors score on an infield bulk.

They are home so Jay will hit a swinging bunt just past the pitcher or a 50 hopper just past a defender. Then all the wacky stuff will happen if their season hold's true.

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:44 PM
Whew

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:44 PM
Excellent! And Morse is the weakest of the 3 fielders. Nice shag.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:45 PM
I can't figure out WHICH team this Ump bet on today!

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:45 PM
Excellent! And Morse is the weakest of the 3 fielders. Nice shag.

Ya think

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:46 PM
I can't figure out WHICH team this Ump bet on today!

He forgot also

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:46 PM
See 'Yall tomorro, different Bat time, same Bat channel!

redsrolen
10-07-2012, 07:48 PM
CARDINALS LOSE!!!!!!:rockband::rockband::rockband:

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:48 PM
HELL YES!

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:48 PM
Lol....ha ha

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:48 PM
And that's it. K for the 3rd and final out. 3-2 final. Watch these guys. "Can't beat the Cards" is the old order. Old thinking.

Reds/Nats LCS!

HometownHero
10-07-2012, 07:49 PM
What a gut punch to the Cardinals

Ironman92
10-07-2012, 07:50 PM
And that's it. K for the 3rd and final out. 3-2 final. Watch these guys. "Can't beat the Cards" is the old order. Old thinking.

Reds/Nats LCS!

You do it your way...I'll keep doing it mine. We both got what we wanted.

foxfire123
10-07-2012, 07:50 PM
What a gut punch to the Cardinals

Couldn't happen to a nicer group either.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:50 PM
And that's it. K for the 3rd and final out. 3-2 final. Watch these guys. "Can't beat the Cards" is the old order. Old thinking.

Reds/Nats LCS!LOL...I don't think so as the RZ loves their misery too much;)

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:51 PM
What a gut punch to the Cardinals

Right in the labonza.

WDE
10-07-2012, 07:51 PM
I stand corrected. Congrats to the Nats. Great win for them.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:53 PM
Nats Xtra on MASN if anyone's local to DC. Unless I'm the only one here on RZ.

Another funny connection that presages the inevitable Reds/Nats LCS. Ray Knight does the pre/post show work here for the Angelos-controlled station that covers Nats and Orioles.

See you all tonight over on the game thread. Can't wait for 9:30ET. As I tried to wax poetically (unsuccessfully) here:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98802

My dream: Reds over Nats in 7 in the LCS. Reds sweep Yankees in WS. Wouldn't predict but think it a very possible scenario.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Nats Xtra on MASN if anyone's local to DC. Unless I'm the only one here on RZ.

Another funny connection that presages the inevitable Reds/Nats LCS. Ray Knight does the pre/post show work here for the Angelos-controlled station that covers Nats and Orioles.

See you all tonight over on the game thread. Can't wait for 9:30ET. As I tried to wax poetically (unsuccessfully) here:

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98802

My dream: Reds over Nats in 7 in the LCS. Reds sweep Yankees in WS. Wouldn't predict but think it a very possible scenario.Huh? I thought you were a Nationals fan?

1940757690
10-07-2012, 07:58 PM
Huh? I thought you were a Nationals fan?

I've only been here posting on RZ for two days so you can check what I've written. But I'm a Reds fans first and foremost since I was 9. Just based in the DC area and love baseball so adopted them too. But not confusion there whatsoever if the LCS I'm predicting comes to pass.

A Nats win over the Reds wouldn't send me over the edge like Cards over Reds would but every fiber for the Reds when the two teams face each other. Just how it has to be.

WDE
10-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Huh? I thought you were a Nationals fan?

Well, considering his username is the Reds championship years, I think you could conclude he has some kind of fandom towards the Reds.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Well, considering his username is the Reds championship years, I think you could conclude he has some kind of fandom towards the Reds.

Minus 19?:confused:

WDE
10-07-2012, 08:02 PM
Minus 19?:confused:

Ya my bad. Got it corrected. I didn't have your name in front of me and thought for some reason you didn't have '19 in there. My bad.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 08:03 PM
I've only been here posting on RZ for two days so you can check what I've written. But I'm a Reds fans first and foremost since I was 9. Just based in the DC area and love baseball so adopted them too. But not confusion there whatsoever if the LCS I'm predicting comes to pass.

A Nats win over the Reds wouldn't send me over the edge like Cards over Reds would but every fiber for the Reds when the two teams face each other. Just how it has to be.I see...I will be rooting for the Reds after the Cards are eliminated, which they surely will if Mathey does not get that big meathead Holliday out of the #3 hole like La Russa finally did last year (but not until the 6th game of the WS)

WDE
10-07-2012, 08:03 PM
Although, I can see how Magdal thinks that. He definitely has been defending the Nats with a passion.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 08:05 PM
Well, considering his username is the Reds championship years, I think you could conclude he has some kind of fandom towards the Reds.

I thought it might be his SS#, IQ or career batting ave.:eek:

1940757690
10-07-2012, 08:06 PM
I thought it might be his SS#, IQ or career batting ave.:eek:

My favorite was someone last night on the Reds Game 1 thread who guessed it was a phone #. SSN? That'd be a genius move for a public forum. Good stuff.

You guys are all the Reds hardcore types, right? Noone new should be allowed to post anywhere here (sundeck, lido deck, anywhere) if they don't know the Reds championship years or get confused over which of two or more teams they prefer. Just my view.

texasdave
10-07-2012, 08:12 PM
It's obvious to anybody with half a neck tattoo that the Nats played to win and the Cards played to lose.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 08:15 PM
My favorite was someone last night on the Reds Game 1 thread who guessed it was a phone #. SSN? That'd be a genius move for a public forum. Good stuff.

You guys are all the Reds hardcore types, right? Noone new should be allowed to post anywhere here (sundeck, lido deck, anywhere) if they don't know the Reds championship years or get confused over which of two or more teams they prefer. Just my view.Odd view. It's a public forum. Plenty of Card fans lurk around here. But there's no baiting or trolling.

I don't know about you, but I like sitting next to an opposing fan when at a game. (unless it's a Philly fan);)

joshua
10-07-2012, 08:17 PM
Don't know which team I would rather meet in the NLCS. the Nats would be tough...although we owe them some revenge after April/May. Eliminating the Cardinals would be soooo good though. Losing out to them would crush me though. Either way, I think the Reds have a legit shot. Still have to get through the Giants though.

foxfire123
10-07-2012, 08:29 PM
Huh? I thought you were a Nationals fan?

He also made a comment that he "also follows the Nats". ;)

1940757690
10-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Odd view. It's a public forum. Plenty of Card fans lurk around here. But there's no baiting or trolling.

I don't know about you, but I like sitting next to an opposing fan when at a game. (unless it's a Philly fan);)

I was kidding with the view. With you though on sitting next to an opposing fan. Though disagree on the PHL fans. They're the best. Why?

Since 2005, the PHL fans would take train and cars down here to DC--to RFK and then Nationals Park--and pack the stadium. Much the same as the Cubs fans try to do at GABP. Or the Red Sox and Yankees fans in Baltimore. Tons of 'em. Really obnoxious.

This year--total role reversal. More Nats fans in Citizens Park in PHL. And here in DC, way fewer Phillies fans. PHL is in decline. WAS and ATL will dominate the East for the next 5 or more years. I had two Phils fans in front of me just above the visitors' dugout last week when the Nats clinched the East. They'd been cheering loudly every ball thrown by a Nats pitcher and the few meaningless hits by Phils hitters. As the Nats sealed that deal, depriving the Phillies of a winning season in the process, the two snuck out as the 9th began. Fully outfitted in Phils jerseys and caps and they disappeared. Then all the Nats players spent a good 30-45 minutes throwing t-shirts, balls and caps up into the crowd. Was a great moment. And Philly made it all possible.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Don't know which team I would rather meet in the NLCS. the Nats would be tough...although we owe them some revenge after April/May. Eliminating the Cardinals would be soooo good though. Losing out to them would crush me though. Either way, I think the Reds have a legit shot. Still have to get through the Giants though.

Way too hedged. The Reds have more than "a legit shot." Check my "Look Out Below" post (link upthread). If you can stay awake reading it (comment about my writing, not your energy level) I think tonight's really key beyond the obvious.

Magdal
10-07-2012, 08:48 PM
Like Holliday and Beltran, Joey and Luddy are going HAVE to start hitting to make it to the WS I believe.

1940757690
10-07-2012, 09:09 PM
Like Holliday and Beltran, Joey and Luddy are going HAVE to start hitting to make it to the WS I believe.

I think we can get to WS with just one of the two really delivering. Better if both but still doable if not I think. I'm guessing Votto gets a couple of key hits along the way. The power stroke is what's missing.

Final note for this thread re Nats. Watch tomorrow. Jordan Zimmerman is the unsung hero of the Nats' rotation. Great pitcher who got no run support first half of year and not as well covered as Strasburg and Gio. Real deal.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 06:28 PM
After the Nats grabbed a 1-0 lead, Ryan Zimmerman couldn't hold on to a hard ball hit right at him to start the second and it woke up the Cardinals offense and they have 4 hits in a row. Not having Stephen Strasburg is going to cost them.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 06:37 PM
Cardinals end up getting 4 to take a 4-1 lead but Matheny has PH for Garcia

Trajinous
10-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Cardinals end up getting 4 to take a 4-1 lead but Matheny has PH for Garcia

Garcia is out, can the Cards do what the Reds did a few days ago? I hope not!

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Zimmermann gives up a HR to make it 5-1 in the 3rd.

Not having Strasburg is totally going to haunt them since he could started this game rather than having Zimmermann on the road who the Cardinals rocked for a 9.90 ERA, 1.80 WHIP and .349 BAA in two starts since start of September.

The Cardinals have the pitching advantage in the next two games so the Nats could find themselves in a bad spot quick unless they final a way to come back.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:00 PM
Garcia is out, can the Cards do what the Reds did a few days ago? I hope not!

Will be hard down 4 and the fact that the Cardinals never hardly give up hits with RISP at home.

Trajinous
10-08-2012, 07:06 PM
Even if the series goes 1-1, the Cards will need to win 2 out of 3 at Washington. That's gonna be hard to do.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Craig Stammen comes in and gives up a HR to make it 6-1 not a fan of seeing their offense wake up this time of the year.

Magdal
10-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Descalso's shot looked to be in the same spot where Werth pulled it back yesterday.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:17 PM
Even if the series goes 1-1, the Cards will need to win 2 out of 3 at Washington. That's gonna be hard to do.

They do have issues on the road but I would like my chances with Chris Carpenter and Kyle Lohse vs the Nats #4 and #5 with no Strasburg before Gio comes back for a game 5 against Adam Wainwright.

Magdal
10-08-2012, 07:18 PM
The wheels coming off now.

malcontent
10-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Why did they pull Garcia?

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Descalso's shot looked to be in the same spot where Werth pulled it back yesterday.

Not even close, today's was on the CF side of the BP by several feet and yesterdays was on the foul pole side by several feet.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Why did they pull Garcia?

He was wild and they had a shot to score with 1st and 3rd and one out.

malcontent
10-08-2012, 07:20 PM
He was wild and they had a shot to score with 1st and 3rd and one out.
Thanks.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:23 PM
This is a nightmare game for the Nats! Now 7-1 after an Espinosa error and Cards have 1st and 2nd with one out. Good thing they came back yesterday.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 07:25 PM
He was wild and they had a shot to score with 1st and 3rd and one out.

Garcia also has a tendency to start throwing meatballs once he's hit hard a couple times. When he goes downhill...he goes fast. Head case. He used to have great stuff, but those starts are very few and far between now. Useless on the road, becoming useless at home.

Magdal
10-08-2012, 07:28 PM
It's starting to look more and more like a Reds/Cards NLCS....wow that Suzuski is something!

Rijo's Ghost
10-08-2012, 07:31 PM
Garcia also has a tendency to start throwing meatballs once he's hit hard a couple times. When he goes downhill...he goes fast. Head case. He used to have great stuff, but those starts are very few and far between now. Useless on the road, becoming useless at home.

His K/9 is at his career norm, BB/9 at an all time low and HR/9 at an all time low. His FIP was 2.97 this year and xFIP was 3.39. Really just burned by an unlucky .339 BABIP this year.

texasdave
10-08-2012, 07:35 PM
Bryce Harper lighting in up in the first game and a half. 0-8 with 5 Ks.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:37 PM
Back-to-back HR off Lynn give the Nats a glimmer of hope cutting it to a 4 run Cards lead.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:38 PM
Bryce Harper lighting in up in the first game and a half. 0-8 with 5 Ks.

Hope he heats back up when they go home, they need him if they want to win this series.

Magdal
10-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Jay is underated as a CFer....he commited not ONE error all year but you don't hear about it.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Jay just took a double or triple away on a great catch at the wall, and then the final out came on a rope to SS for a BABIP killing inning.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 08:02 PM
Jay is underated as a CFer....he commited not ONE error all year but you don't hear about it.

Play like that is why Rasmus lost his job and eventually was traded. Jay hustles 100% of the time and looks like he's always having a good time. Very likeable player.

Magdal
10-08-2012, 08:07 PM
Holliday...needs to be batting 8th!

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 08:09 PM
Why are you two Cards fans posting here of all places?

Magdal
10-08-2012, 08:09 PM
Play like that is why Rasmus lost his job and eventually was traded. Jay hustles 100% of the time and looks like he's always having a good time. Very likeable player.Rumor has it that it was Rasmus' Dad that was traded.;)

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Wow more breaks for the Cards as Harper tries to do to much on a bad throw into the infield and gets thrown out at 3rd.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 08:17 PM
Why are you two Cards fans posting here of all places?

I like the interaction here. Too many homers at Cards Talk. You guys are fun to chat with during games.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 08:19 PM
Rumor has it that it was Rasmus' Dad that was traded.;)

Very true. His dad is the bain of his existence.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 08:19 PM
I like the interaction here. Too many homers at Cards Talk. You guys are fun to chat with during games.

Magdal is the biggest Cards homer I've ever seen.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Magdal is the biggest Cards homer I've ever seen.

Ha! I enjoy your posts Hometown, you aren't blindly critical of other teams and speak the truth about your own team. It makes for good conversations.

HometownHero
10-08-2012, 08:29 PM
When they say defense wins championships this should be the game tape right after the Braves game in the WC game.

Zimmerman can't come up with Craig's hard grounded in the 2nd, that run scored and opened door for 2 two out runs. Espinosa's error with the infield in gave up another run and then Morse can't track down Beltan's foul ball just before hitting a HR. The Jay's catch saved a run as Espinosa would have tripled if the ball doesn't somehow hit Jay on the bounce back if he would have not caught it.

If the Nats played a clean game on D they it could a 4-3 lead even without the Jay's play.

cw0802
10-08-2012, 08:35 PM
When they say defense wins championships this should be the game tape right after the Braves game in the WC game.

Zimmerman can't come up with Craig's hard grounded in the 2nd, that run scored and opened door for 2 two out runs. Espinosa's error with the infield in gave up another run and then Morse can't track down Beltan's foul ball just before hitting a HR. The Jay's catch saved a run as Espinosa would have tripled if the ball doesn't somehow hit Jay on the bounce back if he would have not caught it.

If the Nats played a clean game on D they it could a 4-3 lead even without the Jay's play.

I agree. You can see some jitters, even now. Routine plays being booted or misplayed. Same went for the Braves, except for Uggla, he's never been much of a defender.