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alett12
10-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Tomorrow nights game was originally scheduled for Matt Latos and had the Reds known Cueto would not have been able to pitch I feel like Homer would have started last night however I feel like Homer will be effective tomorrow at home even coming off the high of a No Hitter.

bmwreds31
10-08-2012, 12:53 PM
whats the word on cueto? I thought it was a possibility of him going on tue....?

Biff Pocoroba
10-08-2012, 12:59 PM
I believe it was officially announced yesterday that Bailey would be going in game three...which makes sense. After winning the first game, we knew that Game 3 would not be an elimination game, and we knew that Homer would be taking the hill once in Cincinnati.

This gives the Reds an extra day in case they need Cueto. And in a worst case scenario, allows us to go with Latos in game four and Arroyo in game five if Cueto can't go (though both would be working on a day less rest).

Trajinous
10-08-2012, 01:01 PM
whats the word on cueto? I thought it was a possibility of him going on tue....?

With 2-0 lead, the Reds are able to be cautious with Cueto and don't need to rush him back. If there is a Game 4, Cueto will probably go then.

MrRedLegger
10-08-2012, 01:40 PM
I like Homer pitching. We have a chance of winning game 3 no matter who is on the mound. If we can take the NLDS without having to put Cueto in on short rest/recovery he will get the extra time needed to get healthier.

We prayed for a split and won both games. Not only did we win both, but we silenced the entire San Francisco area and fan base, especially with how we played on Sunday night.

I am in love with this team!

goreds2
10-15-2012, 10:58 PM
Do we give him some type of multi-year deal this year?

2013 Status 1st-Year Arb Eligible,
Earliest Arb Eligible: 2013,

Earliest Free Agent: 2015

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/baileho02.shtml

alett12
10-18-2012, 12:41 PM
Do we give him some type of multi-year deal this year?

2013 Status 1st-Year Arb Eligible,
Earliest Arb Eligible: 2013,

Earliest Free Agent: 2015

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/baileho02.shtml

I would be all for offering him a deal very similar to the one the Reds signed Cueto to a few years ago.

Old NDN
10-19-2012, 02:56 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to lock him up. Granted, he was better this year than in the past. He was spectacular in the last few games he pitched. But, I would wait until after next season. Let's see if he continues to progress or return to inconsistency.

alett12
10-22-2012, 02:30 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to lock him up. Granted, he was better this year than in the past. He was spectacular in the last few games he pitched. But, I would wait until after next season. Let's see if he continues to progress or return to inconsistency.

I feel like his season this year was very comparable to the one that Cueto had before he got his deal and that a similar deal would benefit the Reds.

Todd Gack
10-22-2012, 03:50 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to lock him up. Granted, he was better this year than in the past. He was spectacular in the last few games he pitched. But, I would wait until after next season. Let's see if he continues to progress or return to inconsistency.

I'm of the mind to see what his value would be on the trade market.

RedsBrick
10-22-2012, 04:45 PM
I'm of the mind to see what his value would be on the trade market.

I would hate to trade this guy away after patiently waiting for him to develop in the major leagues and go through major growing pains (after bringing him up too soon, IMO) only to see him have his most productive years for another club. I say keep him.

alett12
10-22-2012, 05:01 PM
I would hate to trade this guy away after patiently waiting for him to develop in the major leagues and go through major growing pains (after bringing him up too soon, IMO) only to see him have his most productive years for another club. I say keep him.

Agreed

holster10
10-30-2012, 12:22 PM
despite homer's solid season, folks on this site still are skeptical and label him a 4/5 starter. let me ask one question, if you had a choice of your game 5 playoff starter vs. SF who would it be? your second choice? most likely, homer is NOT your 4th or 5th choice.

rgslone
10-30-2012, 02:22 PM
I certainly like Bailey as a 4th starter, and maybe even a number 3; but not more than that. I don't think he's shown the stuff or consistency to be considered more at this point. I know that he can throw hard, but good velocity doesn't necessarily equal "great stuff". Bailey seems to have to be pretty fine with his pitches to have really good success. All that being said, however, what's wrong with Bailey being a good 4th/3rd starter? Why does he have to be more before he's considered a success? Is it because he was the teams No. 1 pick one year? If so, I believe that lots of No. 1 picks don't succeed at the level Bailey has. In my opinion, Bailey is already a success and he doesn't have to be anymore than he is for me to feel that way.

Todd Gack
10-30-2012, 05:40 PM
despite homer's solid season, folks on this site still are skeptical and label him a 4/5 starter. let me ask one question, if you had a choice of your game 5 playoff starter vs. SF who would it be? your second choice? most likely, homer is NOT your 4th or 5th choice.

Of course. But it's a different year. You have to assess from year-to-year. 1 good year out of Homer doesn't convince me he's 'got it.' I never said trade him. I just said I'd seriously put out feelers to see what his value would be. We have some pitching depth in our organization.

MoneyInTheBank
10-30-2012, 06:31 PM
I'm all for the "everyone is available for the right price" philosophy, but it would really take a boatload for me to trade him. While he has only put it all together for 1 season, let's look at what Homer has going for him:

-He's 26 years old
-Finished 21st in the NL in ERA & 25th in WHIP (which are both #'s of a #2 pitcher)
-He had a 2.32 Road ERA last season (I'm making other teams pay this premium)
-His SO/BB ratio has increased each year. Mostly due to a decreasing walk rate. This stat tells me it's less likely this was a flukey season but rather a trend to the positive

Again, I'm not opposed to trading Homer for the right price. But for me, the right price is sky high

mikemo14
11-01-2012, 04:06 PM
How about Homer and Stubbs to Cleveland for Choo and a reliever?

HatchMo
11-01-2012, 06:16 PM
How about Homer and Stubbs to Cleveland for Choo and a reliever?

Choo has 1 year left on his deal, if they stumble early next year he will be available at the deadline. So, no.

alett12
11-02-2012, 11:54 AM
Now i would be good with Micheal Brantley and another high level prospect if there are any left in Cleveland.