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thatcoolguy_22
10-11-2012, 11:31 AM
Honest opinion. Not what you hope to happen (we all want CIN to be victorious). However, you just mortgaged your house, cashed out your IRA's, and emptied the kid's college fund to make 1 bet...

Reds or Giants?

cumberlandreds
10-11-2012, 11:36 AM
I honestly think the Reds will win. Too much on their side to bet against them. Latos is a Giant killer. An NL team has never dropped the last three of a NLDS after being two. The Reds have not lost three games in a row at home this season. Overall the Reds have been very good in day games. They will bring home a winner today and advance on to the NLCS.

MikeThierry
10-11-2012, 11:41 AM
I'm hoping the Reds win it.

Reds Fanatic
10-11-2012, 11:44 AM
I may be voting more with my heart than my head but I do think Latos is going to put up a great start today. I see a very similar game to Tuesday. A good pitcher's duel that is going to come down to who can make the few clutch plays that will decide it.

mdccclxix
10-11-2012, 11:46 AM
Can I take the under? :dunno:

BuckeyeRedleg
10-11-2012, 11:46 AM
I'm not going to be the first one to vote for the Giants, so I'll be back in a while.

vaticanplum
10-11-2012, 11:46 AM
The Reds are the better team.

MikeThierry
10-11-2012, 12:07 PM
To me, the two advantages the Giants have over the Reds in this game is starting pitching (which is just a slight advantage) and overall playoff experience. I don't know if experience will have any play in this game so that's a borderline advantage. Everywhere else, the Reds are in a better situation.

RedsManRick
10-11-2012, 12:10 PM
I think we lose. Sorry, but Matt Cain is one of the best pitchers in baseball and we have a mediocre offense. I like Latos, but I like Cain more. I see a team that's pressing hard led by a guy who's clearly not 100%. My call is Giants 4-1.

OldRightHander
10-11-2012, 12:19 PM
To answer the question posed in the thread title, the answer is yes regardless of the outcome of this game. Either they'll be playing in it or watching it on tv, but they'll see it either way.

thatcoolguy_22
10-11-2012, 12:20 PM
I think we lose. Sorry, but Matt Cain is one of the best pitchers in baseball and we have a mediocre offense. I like Latos, but I like Cain more. I see a team that's pressing hard led by a guy who's clearly not 100%. My call is Giants 4-1.

Opposing Cain though, we have Latos who might as well be Pedro Martinez in his prime as far as the Giants are concerned. As a team they have a -11 OPS+ against him. I say again NEGATIVE 11.

Outside of the travesty that was game 4, who hits for SF? Posey is the only thing scary there. Our mediocre lineup is better than theirs, even with Votto being a singles hitter and nearly nonexistant so far (he's due btw).

Pressing hard? I'm not to sure. Unfortunate play by the most battle tested member of our team lost the game. Game 4 was an aberration. I don't see how anyone has really changed their approach. We saw a lot of quality AB's yesterday. The hits were there as well, just not timed as well as SF's.


Reds win 4-1. Avatar bet on it. (Also I have had this avatar since first becoming an ORG member in 07(ish?)

mdccclxix
10-11-2012, 12:21 PM
This is going to be a boss matchup. Latos v Cain. Wow. I want our guy strutting back to the dugout with his chest out 9 times today.

I think the thing the Giants have is they just need one ball to drop in the seats. A 2 run lead early, some fluky crap like yesterday where two soft hitters dropped some home runs. Then they're the team of destiny or something. Everything is magnified of course.

On the flip side, the Reds will be wanting to add on and add on. A 4 run lead early will be a tense journey through 9.

I think that's the effect of experience.

What I like about the Reds experience is they're deep in this now. By the end of the year they say "At some point your rookies aren't rookies anymore." I'd say that should hold up with the Reds. I don't think you'll see a lot of pucker from the Reds. What will help the most is a strong desire to finish. Finish plays, finish rallies, finish batters, finish innings, finish the series.

The playing at home factor has come up with the Reds. They do not seem to be a team that feeds well off of big moments at home...yet. Lots of their big moments do not come with the crowd going wild. For better or worse, they will have to lead themselves, and the fans, to victory. I suppose that makes the most sense.

Caveat Emperor
10-11-2012, 12:30 PM
All the pressure is squarely on the Reds. I don't think there is any way they win this game.

mdccclxix
10-11-2012, 12:38 PM
I just want to see lots of Reds trotting the bases. Just explode.

Homer Bailey
10-11-2012, 12:40 PM
All the pressure is squarely on the Reds. I don't think there is any way they win this game.

The fact that you called the Reds season pretty much over when Votto got hurt makes me feel better about this prediction :D

MikeS21
10-11-2012, 12:45 PM
As much as I would love to see the Reds win, I am going to go with the Giants winning.

Momentum is on the Giants' side. And if Latos isn't physically feeling 100%, and he gives up 2-3 runs, I'm just not confident in this offense to score enough runs to pull it out. I hope I am wrong. Believe me, around 4:00 this afternoon, this is one time I would love for someone to quote me and say, "I told you so!"

bucksfan2
10-11-2012, 12:48 PM
In a one game and go home situation I want Mat Latos on the mound. Guy has been nails the second half of the season and hates the Giants. I don't care who is pitching for SF I just know what if I could scrip things Mat Latos would be on the mound. He could get blown up or could pitch a no hitter. This is what I want.

George Anderson
10-11-2012, 12:58 PM
There is no one i would rather have on the mound than Latos.

Plus 40 years ago today the Reds won the NL Pennant in Game 5 against the Pirates on JB's HR so this day is the day for Reds greatness!!

Reds will win!!!

Book it Dano!!!

thatcoolguy_22
10-11-2012, 01:02 PM
In a one game and go home situation I want Mat Latos on the mound. Guy has been nails the second half of the season and hates the Giants. I don't care who is pitching for SF I just know what if I could scrip things Mat Latos would be on the mound. He could get blown up or could pitch a no hitter. This is what I want.

My thoughts exactly. Honestly, I would rather have Latos here than a healthy Cueto. Latos absolutely destroys the Giants. He also seems to pitch even better the more "fired" up he gets (sorry for the footballesque definition but it makes sense in my head).


As much as I would love to see the Reds win, I am going to go with the Giants winning.

Momentum is on the Giants' side. And if Latos isn't physically feeling 100%, and he gives up 2-3 runs, I'm just not confident in this offense to score enough runs to pull it out. I hope I am wrong. Believe me, around 4:00 this afternoon, this is one time I would love for someone to quote me and say, "I told you so!"

Poll results will be public tomorrow so everyone can say they told whomever so. :D

DGullett35
10-11-2012, 01:04 PM
As much as I would love to see the Reds win, I am going to go with the Giants winning.

Momentum is on the Giants' side. And if Latos isn't physically feeling 100%, and he gives up 2-3 runs, I'm just not confident in this offense to score enough runs to pull it out. I hope I am wrong. Believe me, around 4:00 this afternoon, this is one time I would love for someone to quote me and say, "I told you so!"

We must think alike because i think the same way. Im a big believer in momentum. I think Latos still pitches a hell of a game but we just wont muster enough offense. I would like to know what Dusty said to these guys before games 1 and 2. Or better yet what did Jacoby say to these guys. They scored 15 runs in 2 games and now were back to the same ol same ol. Anyway that same speech needs to be said today. I hope at 4 I am told "i told you so" too. Hopefully GABP is rockin. The Reds need some home field support to pull this out. Theres just so much to say but i hope we get it done. T-Minus 1 hour.

Reds Freak
10-11-2012, 01:07 PM
We must think alike because i think the same way. Im a big believer in momentum. I think Latos still pitches a hell of a game but we just wont muster enough offense. I would like to know what Dusty said to these guys before games 1 and 2. Or better yet what did Jacoby say to these guys. They scored 15 runs in 2 games and now were back to the same ol same ol. Anyway that same speech needs to be said today. I hope at 4 I am told "i told you so" too. Hopefully GABP is rockin. The Reds need some home field support to pull this out. Theres just so much to say but i hope we get it done. T-Minus 1 hour.

I think momentum and speeches are all overrated in baseball. The Reds had every ounce of momentum coming back to Cincinnati up 2-0, but lost two straight. If you need a speech to get ready for the playoffs, you shouldn't be on the field. The team who makes the least mistakes and gets a little bit of luck today will win.

Cyclone792
10-11-2012, 01:10 PM
In Game 5 of the 1940 World Series, the Detroit Tigers manhandled the Reds for an 8-0 victory. The Tigers Bobo Newsom threw a shutout at the Reds, and that loss put them in a 3-2 series hole.

Imagine how Reds fans 72 years ago must have felt after all that.

Bucky Walters took the mound in Game 6, and he scattered 5 hits in a 4-0 shutout victory. In Game 7, the Reds again faced Newsom and trailed 1-0 in the bottom of the 7th inning. But Frank McCormick led off the 7th with a double, Jimmy Ripple doubled McCormick in to tie the game, and after a sac bunt by Jimmie Wilson and an intentional walk issued to Ernie Lombardi, Billy Myers hits a fly ball to deep center to score Ripple and put the Reds on top 2-1. Derringer gives up a lone single in the 8th, then retires the Tigers in order in the 9th to win the game, 2-1.

Mat Latos is going to pitch a helluva game today, and the Reds offense will somehow find a way to scratch and claw a few runs of support.

This team will be going to the NLCS later this afternoon.

DGullett35
10-11-2012, 01:18 PM
I think momentum and speeches are all overrated in baseball. The Reds had every ounce of momentum coming back to Cincinnati up 2-0, but lost two straight. If you need a speech to get ready for the playoffs, you shouldn't be on the field. The team who makes the least mistakes and gets a little bit of luck today will win.

Maybe your right but IMO you can almost snese momentum. I think what hurt us was the day off. If we could have played game 3 the day after game 2 we would have won IMO. That day off gave the Giants a chance to clear their heads so to speak.