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muethibp
10-13-2012, 01:43 PM
Since it's the season now for silly trade talk, what if the Yankees are ready to move A-Rod along and pick up all or almost all of the salary. Think a change of scene, a move to the NL, GABP, etc. makes A-Rod productive for a few more years? Who says "no" to Heisey and Ondrusek for A-Rod (most of salary picked up by NYY)?

R_Webb18
10-13-2012, 01:55 PM
nope

fewfirstchoice
10-13-2012, 02:19 PM
Heck ya bring on Arod and let Frazier spell Arod, Votto, Phillips, and all the OF spots all season. Arod can still play but the Yanks would have to puck up almost all of his contract to make it work for me.

Seat5
10-13-2012, 02:36 PM
No thanks.

We already have enough guys that forget how to hit once the playoffs start.

BEETTLEBUG
10-13-2012, 03:33 PM
Yes in a heart beat do it yesterday.

WDE
10-13-2012, 03:52 PM
Heck to the yes

Norm Chortleton
10-13-2012, 04:01 PM
The guy is terrible and is still owed something like $175 million.

:rolleyes:

Mastodon
10-13-2012, 04:22 PM
I don't think we're in a position to overpay for a guy known for slumping in the post season.

Donder
10-13-2012, 06:03 PM
This thought crossed my mind yesterday while watching the Yankees play. But looking at his power numbers the past couple years, no thanks. But it's definitely an intriguing thought.

HometownHero
10-13-2012, 06:27 PM
He has a no trade clause but for the sake of argument it depends on how much they wanted to eat. If they covered enough to get him 5 for 25 AAV max I would say yes. Say it broke down 8-7-5-3-2 we would be paying him some the first two years but them getting him with next to no risk at the end of his run so every at that price would be a bonus.

Moving to the NL Central from the AL East would be a nice break for him, and going from the big LCF an the new Yankees Stadium to GABP would be a good fit as well. Plus his chase for 700 and then potentially 762 HR would draw people as well as 3000 hits and his quest to lead MLB In All-Time Runs and RBI.

Norm Chortleton
10-13-2012, 06:41 PM
He is owed 28-25-21-20-20 for the next 5 years. You really think the Yankees are going to pay him an average of $17.8 million per year for 5 years to not play for them?

And I wouldn't take him if the Reds could get him for your crazy numbers.

Phoenix2
10-13-2012, 06:48 PM
No thanks. Not the same player off the 'roids and a bad presence in the clubhouse.

birdsonthebat
10-13-2012, 09:46 PM
You guys should acquire him, maybe he will attract a few more fans to your games.

1940757690
10-14-2012, 01:55 AM
No thanks. Not the same player off the 'roids and a bad presence in the clubhouse.

I'd hate to see him come to Cincinnati. And I don't think he'd be any more likely to break out for us come playoff time than he has been in NY. Finally, the "If" is pretty unlikely--the Yankees picking up most/all of his salary? Not too likely.

muethibp
10-15-2012, 12:57 PM
He is owed 28-25-21-20-20 for the next 5 years. You really think the Yankees are going to pay him an average of $17.8 million per year for 5 years to not play for them?

And I wouldn't take him if the Reds could get him for your crazy numbers.

For context, the Yankees paid 60% of Burnett's salary to send him to the Pirates (for non-event prospects). In doing so the Yankees basically closed the gap between what his contract was and what the market said his contract should be. Who's to say that the Yankees wouldn't be willing to cover 70-80% of the salary (probably the difference between the $28 he's owed and the amount someone might give him off the street right now) and then the numbers start to be workable if - and big if - the Reds think he's a fit. The amount the Yankees would pick up should theoretically increase were we to send back a legit prospect or a ML-ready talent like Heisey or Ondrusek.

Not pushing for it. Just food for thought over a long off-season.

dubc47834
10-15-2012, 01:14 PM
For no more than about 8-10 million a year I wouldn't mind having him on the team. In our ballpart Im sure his numbers would pick up some. Right now I believe he hit .270-.280 with 20ish HR's for the Yanks. I doubt the Yanks would pick up that much of his contract tho, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Magdal
10-15-2012, 01:55 PM
Picking him up would be like the Edmonds episode. Just 10 times worse. :eek:

Redsfansince72
10-15-2012, 02:04 PM
You guys should acquire him, maybe he will attract a few more fans to your games.

Hey Cards fan!!! Your team wouldnt be getting 3 million in attendance a year if they didnt make a playoff appearance for 20 years.. so please dont trash our blog.. By the way we sold out all 3 playoff games and the place was rocking.. sadly the team came up short.. once the Reds start going further in the playoffs dont worry about attendance..fans will be there for sure. the Reds attendance has increased each year.

redsrolen
10-15-2012, 02:11 PM
Sure let's get him..:laugh::lol::p

What a great hitter he's been during the playoffs & his fielding has been 'stellar'..:lol:

His pouting face is great to look at...Forget all that & I will enjoy getting that last 100 mil or so stuck right in the Yankees;) 'patootie'....

Magdal
10-15-2012, 02:17 PM
Hey Cards fan!!! Your team wouldnt be getting 3 million in attendance a year if they didnt make a playoff appearance for 20 years.. so please dont trash our blog.. By the way we sold out all 3 playoff games and the place was rocking.. sadly the team came up short.. once the Reds start going further in the playoffs dont worry about attendance..fans will be there for sure. the Reds attendance has increased each year.I think you are in error there Man....after '87 the Cards got pretty bad, but they still drew between 2 and 3 Mil all those years.

Even when the Cards had those steroid rich teams with McGwire, Tatis, Edmonds, Hittin' Whitten and God knows HOW many other users they were futile even when they made a rare playoff appearance.

It would have given the town a tremendous boost if the Reds had made it to the WS 3 yrs. back or this year. That's what it's gonna take to really get that attendance boost. (and some futility by the Bengals won't hurt);)

PedroBourbon
10-15-2012, 02:18 PM
No thanks.

We already have enough guys that forget how to hit once the playoffs start.


Reminds me of a horrible joke I heard years ago. How did they know ARod wasn't on Corey Lidle's plane?

Cause ARod can't hit anything in the playoffs.

citizen
10-16-2012, 12:23 PM
i don't know him personally but i imagine any positives he brought numbers wise would be negated by his presence on the team and the playing time he took away from Frazier. I highly doubt WJ would ever bring him here and the scenario just doesn't make sense in general.

webbbj
10-16-2012, 12:56 PM
this is never gonna happen. The oscenario I can see Arod being traded is in a deal involving 2 bad contracts.

I dont what kind of deal that would be but off the top of my head Arod for Soriano or AROD for Jason Werth. Something like that.

No team is going to give up top prospects for the yanks to eat 80% of the salary in order to acquire him.

goreds2
10-17-2012, 12:26 PM
A-Rod plays field
Hits on gals at ALCS game

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rod_plays_field_3CyBvCsO66Fugdu1bvXCLP

MrRedLegger
10-17-2012, 01:07 PM
Anyone remember this?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/10/19/sports/YANK.slide.14.jpg

He can really act like a child. Who's taken steroids. And won't do diddly in the postseason ever.

muethibp
10-17-2012, 01:46 PM
The more he underperforms and misbehaves, the more likely it is that NYY looks for a way to put him on another team and the more money they will have to pick up to to do and so the more likely it is that a trade to the Reds would work financially.

Rock of Truth
10-17-2012, 01:55 PM
Anyone remember this?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/10/19/sports/YANK.slide.14.jpg

He can really act like a child. Who's taken steroids. And won't do diddly in the postseason ever.

Isn't that when Bronson Arroyo was sporting the CornRows? :lol:

texasdave
10-17-2012, 02:01 PM
I think I would pass. His career arc seems to be downward. Even if he gets a bump from playing in GABP will that be erased by him getting older?


AGE OBP
31 1.067
32 .965
33 .933
34 .847
35 .823
36 .783


In addition to that he has only averaged 124 games played the last five seasons.

muethibp
10-17-2012, 07:28 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/8517121/alex-rodriguez-trade-discussed-offseason-new-york-yankees-miami-marlins-source-says

HometownHero
10-18-2012, 12:38 AM
If Keith Olbermann sources are right about the Yanks paying virtually all of Alex's money to dump him, it would be a awesome pick up for the Marlins. A free A-Rod in his hometown chasing down the HR record would be a big time money maker for them, but the big park isn't going to help but I bet they move the fences as soon as after next year.

A-Rod would be a upgrade over what Gaby Sanchez has been giving there the last few seasons before dumping him this year, and a move to first may keep him on the field for more games each year as well.

Spider Tre
10-18-2012, 08:59 AM
i bet Bronson would LOVE to have A-Rod as a teammate lol

if Hamilton was clubhouse cancer when he was here, i wouldn't think A-Rod would be much better. i'll pass

alett12
10-18-2012, 12:44 PM
I have no desire at all to see A-rod in a Reds uniform even if the Yankees take on 100% of his contract and if the only guy that the Reds gave up was Jordan Smith.

Old NDN
10-18-2012, 01:23 PM
Well, the Reds just completed a season with an aging, unproductive, overpaid, injury-prone 3B. They don't need another one. Although, I think Rolen brought a lot of positive intangibles to the club. The A-Rod circus would be huge distraction and disappointment, imo.

reagansdaddy
10-18-2012, 02:27 PM
I don't think we're in a position to overpay for a guy known for slumping in the post season.

We just did it with Dusty Baker! :)

faffy42
10-18-2012, 03:39 PM
No to arod...yes to frazier