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Gallen5862
10-21-2012, 12:21 AM
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Qualifying Offers Will Be Worth $13.3MM

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [October 20 at 12:18pm CST]

OCTOBER 20: It has been determined that qualifying offers need to be worth $13.3MM this offseason, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter).

AUGUST 1: Qualifying offers for free agents will be in the $13.3-$13.4MM range, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). The value of the qualifying offers is based on the salaries of the 125 best-paid MLB players, and had been expected to fall in the $12.5MM range.

Teams must make free agents qualifying offers to be eligible for draft pick compensation. Teams obtain one supplementary round draft pick if a player turns down a qualifying offer to sign elsewhere. I explained qualifying offers in detail earlier this year.

Gallen5862
10-21-2012, 12:22 AM
We can also use this thread to discuss which free agents should be tagged orthose who are tagged.

corkedbat
10-21-2012, 12:57 AM
We can also use this thread to discuss which free agents should be tagged orthose who are tagged.

MLBTR say Swisher will probably be tagged by the Yanks, but they're only doing it for the pick. They don't expect him to accept.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/10/yankees-notes-swisher-a-rod-cashman-girardi.html

Slyder
10-21-2012, 02:34 AM
MLBTR say Swisher will probably be tagged by the Yanks, but they're only doing it for the pick. They don't expect him to accept.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/10/yankees-notes-swisher-a-rod-cashman-girardi.html

Wouldn't it be hysterical if he actually accepted it? Add some more age to the empire.

NJReds
10-21-2012, 01:31 PM
Wouldn't it be hysterical if he actually accepted it? Add some more age to the empire.

I don't think the Yankees would mind Swisher at 1 year, $13.3.

They also exercized the opton on Granderson ($13M).

Gallen5862
10-31-2012, 10:42 PM
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Ryan Madson Declines Mutual Option
By Mike Axisa [October 31 at 8:34pm CST]
Ryan Madson has declined his half of a mutual option for 2013, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. The option was worth $11MM, and he'll instead receive a $2.5MM buyout.

Madson, 32, did not pitch at all in 2012 due to Tommy John surgery after signing a one-year, $8.5MM deal with the Reds last winter. From 2009-2011 he pitched to a 2.78 ERA with 9.6 K/9 and 2.4 BB/9, however. The Phillies have some interest in bringing Madson back for next year, but the right-hander will seek a job closing.

redsmetz
11-02-2012, 10:24 AM
Nice piece further amplifying the new system

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/explaining-qualifying-offers.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Gallen5862
11-02-2012, 08:16 PM
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Braves Make Michael Bourn Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 5:05pm CST]
The Braves extended a qualifying offer to Michael Bourn, Evan Drellich of MLB.com reports (on Twitter). The free agent center fielder now has one week to accept or decline the offer.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Nationals Make Adam LaRoche Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 5:04pm CST]
The Nationals extended a qualifying offer to Adam LaRoche, Evan Drellich of MLB.com reports (on Twitter). The free agent first baseman now has one week to accept or decline the offer.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Cardinals Make Kyle Lohse Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 5:01pm CST]
The Cardinals extended a qualifying offer to Kyle Lohse, Jenifer Langosch of MLB.com reports (on Twitter). He now has one week to accept or decline the offer.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Rays Make B.J. Upton Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 4:02pm CST]
The Rays extended a qualifying offer to B.J. Upton, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports (on Twitter). The free agent center fielder now has one week to accept or decline the offer.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Red Sox Make David Ortiz Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 3:56pm CST]
The Red Sox extended a qualifying offer to David Ortiz, Alex Speier of WEEI.com reports (on Twitter). The free agent designated hitter now has one week to accept or decline the offer.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Soriano, Swisher, Kuroda Obtain Qualifying Offers
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 3:40pm CST]
The Yankees extended qualifying offers to Rafael Soriano, Nick Swisher and Hiroki Kuroda, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The players now have one week to accept or decline the offers.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#Ce4V8WzVec4Wc618.99

Rangers Make Josh Hamilton Qualifying Offer
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 2 at 3:19pm CST]
The Rangers extended a qualifying offer to Josh Hamilton, T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com reports. The free agent outfielder now has one week to accept or decline the offer. Mike Napoli did not get a qualifying offer from Texas.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#1XAdiQjDglJs0rsl.99

mth123
11-02-2012, 10:50 PM
Upton, Swisher and Kuroda should take those offers. They aren't worth $13.3 Million per year and they can just become free agents again next year.

Lohse should think real hard about it too.

Wonderful Monds
11-02-2012, 11:41 PM
Upton, Swisher and Kuroda should take those offers. They aren't worth $13.3 Million per year and they can just become free agents again next year.

Lohse should think real hard about it too.

Uhhhhh?

PuffyPig
11-03-2012, 10:21 AM
Upton, Swisher and Kuroda should take those offers. They aren't worth $13.3 Million per year and they can just become free agents again next year.

Lohse should think real hard about it too.

Lohse may get about $15M for 4-5 years.

I would expect the minimum would be 3 years, $40M.

He's coming off what will be his career year. He needs to cash in. The Cards would be delighted to go year to year on him.

lollipopcurve
11-03-2012, 10:34 AM
Upton, Swisher and Kuroda should take those offers

Upton will get a ton of cash. When you hit free agency, it's not about the average annual value -- it's about years and total dollars. Take the big pile of cash when you can.

mth123
11-03-2012, 07:41 PM
Upton will get a ton of cash. When you hit free agency, it's not about the average annual value -- it's about years and total dollars. Take the big pile of cash when you can.

If he's going to get say 5 years at $10 Million per (an overpay IMO) why not take the $13.3 and become a free agent against next year and take a 4 year $40 Million deal?

mth123
11-03-2012, 07:42 PM
Lohse may get about $15M for 4-5 years.

I would expect the minimum would be 3 years, $40M.

He's coming off what will be his career year. He needs to cash in. The Cards would be delighted to go year to year on him.

You're probably right. I'd wager that the team that pays it will regret it.

_Sir_Charles_
11-04-2012, 01:26 PM
If he's going to get say 5 years at $10 Million per (an overpay IMO) why not take the $13.3 and become a free agent against next year and take a 4 year $40 Million deal?

Injury risk. He could get hurt next year and his chance at a long term deal is toast.

PuffyPig
11-04-2012, 09:13 PM
If he's going to get say 5 years at $10 Million per (an overpay IMO) why not take the $13.3 and become a free agent against next year and take a 4 year $40 Million deal?

He risks $40M to make an extra $3.3M.

It would be insane to do such a thing.

Now if if comes to CIncy on a one year deal to take advantage of the ballpark in hopes of cashing in on a huge deal afterwards, that might be a gamble worth taking.

mth123
11-04-2012, 11:18 PM
He risks $40M to make an extra $3.3M.

It would be insane to do such a thing.

Now if if comes to CIncy on a one year deal to take advantage of the ballpark in hopes of cashing in on a huge deal afterwards, that might be a gamble worth taking.

Just a for instance. I wouldn't give him $10 Million per year, would you? If he'd want 5 years, they would need to be at a a discount. say 5 for $30 Million. I might go to $8 Million per year if its limited to 3 years. No way I go $10, let alone $13.3.

REDREAD
11-06-2012, 09:18 PM
Lohse should think real hard about it too.

I agree with you.. Edwin Jackson and Kuroda had to wait around and they ended up with 1 year contracts for less than 13 million.
I just don't think anyone considers Lohse an ace.. Although maybe the Cardinals end up resigning him for big money on multiple years since he's important to their rotation.

It just seems that teams are more leary of giving big multiyear deals to above average (ie non-ace) pitchers..

BJ Upton ought to think it over too.. If he accepts arb, maybe Tampa is forced to give him a multiyear deal and trade him.. Surely Tampa does not want him to accept..

Plus Plus
11-07-2012, 12:09 AM
I agree with you.. Edwin Jackson and Kuroda had to wait around and they ended up with 1 year contracts for less than 13 million.
I just don't think anyone considers Lohse an ace.. Although maybe the Cardinals end up resigning him for big money on multiple years since he's important to their rotation.

It just seems that teams are more leary of giving big multiyear deals to above average (ie non-ace) pitchers..

BJ Upton ought to think it over too.. If he accepts arb, maybe Tampa is forced to give him a multiyear deal and trade him.. Surely Tampa does not want him to accept..

In a world where Jason Werth gets 7/128 or whatever the Nationals offered him, Lohse, Upton, Jackson, Kuroda, Swisher, et al should all get more than 13.3m guaranteed in their next contracts.

Keep in mind that all MLB contracts are guaranteed, so an argument could easily be made that a 2/14m contract is a better offerthan a 1/13.3m one. All it takes is one freak injury, a severe underperformance, or something else (all of which end up happening every season) to make accepting arbitration offers a big mistake.