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mdccclxix
12-05-2012, 12:19 PM
Pete may not be the brightest, but he knows baseball. Someone needs to pay the guy to do the Extra Innings show. Maybe he could stop hocking autographs. He could do the show from Vegas, what's the problem? He'd get sky high ratings, and it would give him a platform to show why he's good for the game and has a lot to offer. This came to me last night when he called Marty on the Hot Stove Show.

Unassisted
12-05-2012, 12:21 PM
Something tells me it might create problems with the commissioner's office for the station that holds the rights to Reds broadcasts to employ the only living human being who is banned from the sport to have him discuss the sport.

paulrichjr
12-05-2012, 12:22 PM
Did Pete seem so "slow" in the 1970s or is he just getting old. I have seen him interviewed over the past few years and frankly it's hard to watch. As a kid in the 70s I thought he was the greatest ever...wow it's hard to watch your boyhood heros fall apart.

westofyou
12-05-2012, 12:26 PM
Pete's favorite subject used to be baseball, now it's Pete Rose.

Pass

_Sir_Charles_
12-05-2012, 12:40 PM
Pete's favorite subject used to be baseball, now it's Pete Rose.

Pass

Disagree. He is naturally going to discuss baseball from his perspective and from his experience, but his favorite subject is always going to be baseball. He'll talk to you with gusto about any facet of the game. He's got personal flaws as we all know, but his knowledge of the game is unquestioned as is his passion IMO.

George Anderson
12-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Something tells me it might create problems with the commissioner's office for the station that holds the rights to Reds broadcasts to employ the only living human being who is banned from the sport to have him discuss the sport.

If he is an employee of WLW I doubt MLB would care.

Pete anymore kinda seems a little senile. Which actually might make for entertaining radio.

Pete has his flaws but no doubt he is entertaining.

Chip R
12-05-2012, 12:52 PM
Pete may not be the brightest, but he knows baseball. Someone needs to pay the guy to do the Extra Innings show. Maybe he could stop hocking autographs. He could do the show from Vegas, what's the problem? He'd get sky high ratings, and it would give him a platform to show why he's good for the game and has a lot to offer. This came to me last night when he called Marty on the Hot Stove Show.

It's not a bad idea. However - assuming you could get MLB's OK on this, and that's a big if - I think the show is better served by having a local host. Someone who has an idea of what is going on locally.

Secondly, most of the Reds games start at 7:00 p.m. That's 4:00 p.m. Vegas time. So he's basically going to have to spend the next 5 hours watching the game and doing the Extra Innings show. Is he willing to dedicate his evening hours doing that? Most of the time the show is about ranting and raving over the game that just happened. Is Pete really going to stop whatever he's doing at 4 in the afternoon and watch the Reds game? As far as hocking autographs go, that's how the man makes his living. Whatever WLW would pay him to do the show is more than likely a drop in the bucket compared to what he makes signing those autographs.

Third, how long before it starts becoming the Chris Farley Show? "Hey, Pete, remember when you slid head first into 3rd against the Yankees in the World Series? That was awesome."

Fourth, as far as ratings go, since the Reds games get great ratings both on TV and radio, you have to believe a lot of that crowd is going to be listening to the show no matter who is hosting. I don't really think WLW and Clear Channel are fretting over ratings from 11:00 p.m. to midnight.

westofyou
12-05-2012, 01:01 PM
Disagree. He is naturally going to discuss baseball from his perspective and from his experience, but his favorite subject is always going to be baseball. He'll talk to you with gusto about any facet of the game. He's got personal flaws as we all know, but his knowledge of the game is unquestioned as is his passion IMO.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39644156/



Rose: "I do not badmouth baseball. Why would I badmouth baseball? I love the game. I've loved the game my whole life? I have never badmouthed baseball, and I never would badmouth baseball. Not in a million years. I want it to be the most important game in the world. Why would I badmouth it? No, I would never badmouth baseball."

One beat of silence. Two beats of silence. Three beats of silence.

Rose: "I mean, for me? I would rather watch college football or basketball. I can't hardly watch baseball anymore. I see these guys with their sunglasses on, not running the ball out, makes me sick. I can't watch it."


Pass

George Anderson
12-05-2012, 01:02 PM
. Is Pete really going to stop whatever he's doing at 4 in the afternoon and watch the Reds game?

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If the price is right there are few things in the world Pete wouldn't do.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SBBliCkZiz0/TdSvLByFZdI/AAAAAAAAAEs/LiYqXy3yOB8/s1600/KANEyROSE2.jpg





http://razzball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/pete-rose-underwear.jpg

REDREAD
12-05-2012, 01:09 PM
Pete may not be the brightest, but he knows baseball. Someone needs to pay the guy to do the Extra Innings show. Maybe he could stop hocking autographs. He could do the show from Vegas, what's the problem? He'd get sky high ratings, and it would give him a platform to show why he's good for the game and has a lot to offer. This came to me last night when he called Marty on the Hot Stove Show.

Pete used to have a syndicated radio show. I can't remember if it was before or after the ban.. I think it was after though.

Pete was great when he was telling stories about Eric Davis, etc.. stories from playing or managing or talking about hitting.. Other than that, he talked in cliches and was pretty boring (like most talk show hosts are). He's been away from the game so long now, that I'm not sure his stories would be as cool. Not many people remember the Reds from the 80's..

RedsBaron
12-05-2012, 01:10 PM
If the price is right there are few things in the world Pete wouldn't do.

Yep.

bucksfan2
12-05-2012, 01:31 PM
:barf:

Crosley68
12-05-2012, 01:39 PM
I am a lifelong Pete lover and yes it is painful to listen to Pete sometimes, but reading this thread is much more painful.

Pass............on future Pete Rose threads.

mdccclxix
12-05-2012, 01:40 PM
Pete might get bored of it, but on the other hand he might get a kick out of it a lot of nights. I'd love to hear him get salty with some callers. I don't know, I just figured he's got to be just as, if not more, bored sitting in a shopping mall, which he could still do by the way. He pays close attention to the Reds, shoot he was listening to the Hot Stove last night and called it. The guy is a Reds fan.

Tracy Jones has made a career of congratulating himself on the air, I can see where Pete Rose would do just fine in the EI slot.

As for ratings, the games do well, but I doubt as many people listen to the EI show as they once did. It's just not that interesting. Pete would be appointment radio for a much larger audience. Pete's only quality audience is Reds fans, of all ages. He is a story (1000 of them) and he's got stories (1000000 of them). I think it would be a slam run.

mdccclxix
12-05-2012, 01:41 PM
:barf:


Yes it is painful to listen to Pete sometimes, but reading this thread is much more painful.

Pass............on future Pete Rose threads.

Sorry you stopped by :laugh:

mdccclxix
12-05-2012, 01:43 PM
700 wlw used to have star quality, now it's just filled with knobbers.

LoganBuck
12-05-2012, 02:26 PM
As someone who didn't grow up idolizing Pete Rose, I was 11 when he was banned, I don't care to listen to him. When I do, I can't help but think that it is a self serving ego trip when he does talk baseball. I like the stories of the Big Red Machine and such, but frankly I would rather listen to Marc Amazon. I get very annoyed with Doc Rogers, I could only imagine how a Pete Rose show would go. Every caller telling him how he used to love to watch him, and then no one would be allowed to argue with Pete.

dougdirt
12-05-2012, 02:32 PM
Please no.

gilpdawg
12-06-2012, 07:46 AM
Pete used to have a syndicated radio show. I can't remember if it was before or after the ban.. I think it was after though.

Pete was great when he was telling stories about Eric Davis, etc.. stories from playing or managing or talking about hitting.. Other than that, he talked in cliches and was pretty boring (like most talk show hosts are). He's been away from the game so long now, that I'm not sure his stories would be as cool. Not many people remember the Reds from the 80's..
LOL I used to listen to that show when I was in, I think, 8th grade or so. WHON in Richmond, IN carried it. I actually called in a couple of times and they put me on the air, and I was, like, 13. My recollection is that I did pretty well for a kid.

PuffyPig
12-06-2012, 10:40 AM
If Pete Rose had been a Cards players all those years, he'd be hated more around here than Chris Carpenter.

Chip R
12-06-2012, 11:34 AM
If Pete Rose had been a Cards players all those years, he'd be hated more around here than Chris Carpenter.

Perhaps. My late grandmother was a Cubs fan and she couldn't stand him. I'm sure Phillies fans have a soft spot for him.

I think a lot of non-Reds/Phillies fans have kind of warmed up to him in the 80s and after. I think he got a kind of grudging respect from fans when he was in his 40s going after Cobb's record. While he may have lost some of that respect over the banishment, he may have gained some back during the steroid-era. He and his defenders will say Pete didn't use artificial enhancement to break the records he broke.

mdccclxix
12-06-2012, 11:42 AM
If not Rose, then I think having guest spots for Larkin, Davis, O'Neil, Casey, Morgan, etc would be very cool, although some of those guys would probably play the safe card all show long. Pete Rose tells it like it is, if not, he at least acts like he tells it like it is. One way to fix the PC nature of the show would be to have a week long residency for these guys, so eventually the bs would reside and baseball talk would get better. So far the only guy that could hold down the show for a full season would be Rose, IMO.

Finally, I'll admit to not having much fatigue with Rose due to less exposure to his career. I didn't want to bring up any of the bad vibes surrounding him, but that seems to be the first thing on many minds.

This show isn't about that and would be a way of moving past that stuff, and getting closer to the game for Pete. He's in Siberia as it is. Maybe he could make the broadcast HOF, haha.

westofyou
12-06-2012, 11:49 AM
If not Rose, then I think having guest spots for Larkin, Davis, O'Neil, Casey, Morgan, etc would be very cool, although some of those guys would probably play the safe card all show long. Pete Rose tells it like it is, if not, he at least acts like he tells it like it is. One way to fix the PC nature of the show would be to have a week long residency for these guys, so eventually the bs would reside and baseball talk would get better. So far the only guy that could hold down the show for a full season would be Rose, IMO.

Finally, I'll admit to not having much fatigue with Rose due to less exposure to his career. I didn't want to bring up any of the bad vibes surrounding him, but that seems to be the first thing on many minds.

This show isn't about that and would be a way of moving past that stuff, and getting closer to the game for Pete. He's in Siberia as it is. Maybe he could make the broadcast HOF, haha.
That's a lot of talent for a AM radio show, what is the actual audience for such a show?

I know I watch the games, skip pregame and post game noise myself, who watches these shows and do they care about Pete 23 years after he was banned?

That's a whole generation.

mdccclxix
12-06-2012, 11:57 AM
That's a lot of talent for a AM radio show, what is the actual audience for such a show?

I know I watch the games, skip pregame and post game noise myself, who watches these shows and do they care about Pete 23 years after he was banned?

That's a whole generation.

That's part of why this fits. It's not really about the banishment. IMO, Pete is such a great talker, he'd beat anyone else for filling the EI show. If there are more people that don't know or care much about the banishment, that could serve the greater purpose of, 'this is Pete Rose today, great baseball mind (and if you didn't catch on sooner one of the best ever to play).

I know the attention would start to wear on people, including Pete in some ways, but when people call Marty a HOFer, it's not tiresome, it's perhaps emptied out a bit, but I think Rose could age more gracefully in the context of the Reds, Cincinnati, and baseball fans. He's our Barry Bonds, it's irrational, but he belongs to us. In the end, I think it comes together perfectly, except I guess, for the people that can't stand the guy.

Chip R
12-06-2012, 12:18 PM
If not Rose, then I think having guest spots for Larkin, Davis, O'Neil, Casey, Morgan, etc would be very cool, although some of those guys would probably play the safe card all show long. Pete Rose tells it like it is, if not, he at least acts like he tells it like it is. One way to fix the PC nature of the show would be to have a week long residency for these guys, so eventually the bs would reside and baseball talk would get better. So far the only guy that could hold down the show for a full season would be Rose, IMO.

As I said about the idea of Pete hosting the show, if you have these guest stars hosting the show, it won't take long before it turns into, "Hey, (fill in the blank with your favorite guest host) remember when you did such and such? That was awesome!" You don't want to have the host overwhelm the show. The show is about Reds baseball - preferably the current team. Nostalgia is great every now and then but then it ceases to be a novelty. The people calling the show should be calling about Dusty's latest screwup or Billy Hamilton or if Jay Bruce will ever be a superstar or Homer's ups and downs.

Having these guys on as a guest would be great - as I'm sure it was during the show on Tuesday. But don't draw attention away from the current product on the field by reminiscing about the past.

mdccclxix
12-06-2012, 12:26 PM
As I said about the idea of Pete hosting the show, if you have these guest stars hosting the show, it won't take long before it turns into, "Hey, (fill in the blank with your favorite guest host) remember when you did such and such? That was awesome!" You don't want to have the host overwhelm the show. The show is about Reds baseball - preferably the current team. Nostalgia is great every now and then but then it ceases to be a novelty. The people calling the show should be calling about Dusty's latest screwup or Billy Hamilton or if Jay Bruce will ever be a superstar or Homer's ups and downs.

Having these guys on as a guest would be great - as I'm sure it was during the show on Tuesday. But don't draw attention away from the current product on the field by reminiscing about the past.

True. In my sense for the idea it would take a commitment to the tradition of the show to focus appropriately on the game that day and take lots of calls. It may be naive to assume Pete could do that frequently without telling too many old stories. The idea of that show is to serve the public, indulge the average fan, answer their questions. That in itself is usually enough, but is often very boring. If Pete were up to it, I think he could slot nicely in this role, but there are lots of things to avoid. If channeled properly it could really be a blast, too.

Chip R
12-06-2012, 12:50 PM
True. In my sense for the idea it would take a commitment to the tradition of the show to focus appropriately on the game that day and take lots of calls. It may be naive to assume Pete could do that frequently without telling too many old stories. The idea of that show is to serve the public, indulge the average fan, answer their questions. That in itself is usually enough, but is often very boring. If Pete were up to it, I think he could slot nicely in this role, but there are lots of things to avoid. If channeled properly it could really be a blast, too.

I think Pete could do it if he watched Reds games. I have no doubt he could speak knowingly about the current team if given a chance. I just think the callers would turn it into "Pete Rose's Greatest Hits" and basically ignore the current team. I think Pete would indulge fans that wanted to talk about him not necessarily because he has a big ego but he would do it just to be courteous. That's one reason Tracy Jones didn't work out. It became, "I'm Tracy Jones and I used to play major league baseball therefore I know more than you do." I'm sure a lot of it was a put-on but it was annoying put-on.

REDREAD
12-06-2012, 01:24 PM
LOL I used to listen to that show when I was in, I think, 8th grade or so. WHON in Richmond, IN carried it. I actually called in a couple of times and they put me on the air, and I was, like, 13. My recollection is that I did pretty well for a kid.

Yea, I am older than you, but I called in once to talk to Pete.
I'm sure you did fine. It's not like the bar was set that high. :)

marcshoe
12-06-2012, 10:14 PM
I would have an easier time listening to Pete being annoying than someone who hadn't earned that right. Honestly, I've thought for a while he'd be good hosting a show where he interviewed old players. That would be more interesting than a call in show Imho.

Raisor
12-07-2012, 08:41 PM
I occasionaly listen to the show if I'm on a trip or something, and can get WLW in the car. 98.657% of the callers are idiots. 92.35% of the things the hosts say are idiotic.

That's a large percentage of awfullishness.

Pete would be worse.

Yachtzee
12-09-2012, 06:27 AM
If Pete Rose had been a Cards players all those years, he'd be hated more around here than Chris Carpenter.

My grandmother was a Reds fan and she hated Pete's guts.