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mattfeet
12-12-2012, 03:56 PM
Currently doing an interview with Mo on 1530AM. Some of these are paraphrased, but you get the idea. Just thought I'd share. :beerme:

Walt Jocketty on Shin-Soo Choo

"Joey Votto sent me a text after the trade last night and he was very excited."

"We've tried a couple of different deals for CF types that fell through. We talked to Cleveland about Choo last year at deadline, but this one came together kind of fast over the past couple of days. We put this together Sat, Sun, and Mon. Finalized late last night, about 9PM. It was a deal we felt was very important to us. Hurt to give up Didi. SS is "locked up" with Cozart for 5-6 years."

"With the way the money has gone, we don't know what to expect going into the future. If we sign him, great, if not, we know we have BH to take over."

"We'll let the year play out (2013) before visiting trying to sign Choo to extension."

"One of the deals we had in place required trading a few of our top young pitchers. Just not something we wanted to do."

"This is probably the best lineup we've had here...at least in my time."

"We think Choo will be at least average in CF. He came up in SEA as a CF then moved him to RF because they had, I think, Adam Jones there as well. We think he should be able to cover CF here at GABP, which isn't really a very big CF."

"Dusty and I have discussed moving Bruce to CF. I thnk we're going to go into ST with an open mind but we'd prefer to keep Jay in RF."

"If Hannahan gets done, he'll be a LHH that'll play several INF positions."

"Hannahan/Donald will not proclude us from bringing back Scott."

"If Rolen does come back, he's thought about how he'll adapt to a lesser role than what he's used to."

"We want to go into ST with flexibility in the rotation. Chapman could start, or could start in the bullpen and then start later in the year. I think our pitching staff and roster is pretty well set. I like competition but we'll still look for ways to add depth to the organization in AAA and AA."

"Well, I'm going, I have a home in Phoenix, so we're going to go there for Christmas."

WVRedsFan
12-12-2012, 04:02 PM
Currently doing an interview with Mo on 1530AM. Some of these are paraphrased, but you get the idea. Just thought I'd share. :beerme:

Walt Jocketty on Shin-Soo Choo

"Joey Votto sent me a text after the trade last night and he was very excited."

"We've tried a couple of different deals for CF types that fell through. We talked to Cleveland about Choo last year at deadline, but this one came together kind of fast over the past couple of days. We put this together Sat, Sun, and Mon. Finalized late last night, about 9PM. It was a deal we felt was very important to us. Hurt to give up Didi. SS is "locked up" with Cozart for 5-6 years."

"With the way the money has gone, we don't know what to expect going into the future. If we sign him, great, if not, we know we have BH to take over."

"We'll let the year play out (2013) before visiting trying to sign Choo to extension."

"One of the deals we had in place required trading a few of our top young pitchers. Just not something we wanted to do."

"This is probably the best lineup we've had here...at least in my time."

"We think Choo will be at least average in CF. He came up in SEA as a CF then moved him to RF because they had, I think, Adam Jones there as well. We think he should be able to cover CF here at GABP, which isn't really a very big CF."

"Dusty and I have discussed moving Bruce to CF. I thnk we're going to go into ST with an open mind but we'd prefer to keep Jay in RF."

"If Hannahan gets done, he'll be a LHH that'll play several INF positions."

"Hannahan/Donald will not proclude us from bringing back Scott."

"If Rolen does come back, he's thought about how he'll adapt to a lesser role than what he's used to."

"We want to go into ST with flexibility in the rotation. Chapman could start, or could start in the bullpen and then start later in the year. I think our pitching staff and roster is pretty well set. I like competition but we'll still look for ways to add depth to the organization in AAA and AA."

"Well, I'm going, I have a home in Phoenix, so we're going to go there for Christmas."I like the attitude and expertise Walt brings to the table. He's just the best thing to happen to this franchise in years and years.

Interesting, he used the word "if" when speaking about Rolen. I think rolen on this team would be beneficial. Let's hope he changes his mind.

Kc61
12-12-2012, 04:11 PM
Where is the outrage about Walt leaving open the possibility of Chapman starting the season in the bullpen?

Not a very RedsZone thing for Walt to say.

traderumor
12-12-2012, 04:12 PM
Walt can now go do that fishing he was accused of doing for a few offseasons without any complaint?

Benihana
12-12-2012, 04:19 PM
Man, what a great GM we have. It's really amazing. Ownership too. Never thought I'd say that about a professional sports team in Cincinnati.

Brutus
12-12-2012, 04:19 PM
Where is the outrage about Walt leaving open the possibility of Chapman starting the season in the bullpen?

Not a very RedsZone thing for Walt to say.

Why would there be outrage? He clearly said it would be starting in the bullpen with the intent of saving Chapman's innings so he could be stretched out through the end of the season.

11larkin11
12-12-2012, 04:20 PM
Where is the outrage about Walt leaving open the possibility of Chapman starting the season in the bullpen?

Not a very RedsZone thing for Walt to say.

I've seen many who think it is best to start Chapman later in the year, including myself. I think the question is whether to rest him until a month or two before, or use him in the pen until then and stretch him out. I like the Medlen Method

klw
12-12-2012, 04:22 PM
Thanks for posting the notes. It was an interesting read.

Brutus
12-12-2012, 04:25 PM
I've seen many who think it is best to start Chapman later in the year, including myself. I think the question is whether to rest him until a month or two before, or use him in the pen until then and stretch him out. I like the Medlen Method

My hope is that they pitch him roughly every fifth day where he can throw on the side and keep a routine going before they move him into the rotation in (presumably) May.

mattfeet
12-12-2012, 04:26 PM
Thanks for posting the notes. It was an interesting read.

:beerme:

I was trying my best to keep up. Mo was firing the questions quick! :lol:

Tom Servo
12-12-2012, 04:47 PM
Man, what a great GM we have. It's really amazing. Ownership too. Never thought I'd say that about a professional sports team in Cincinnati.
This. Firing Krivsky and installing Jocketty as GM was absolutely the right move by Bob.

_Sir_Charles_
12-12-2012, 04:50 PM
Where is the outrage about Walt leaving open the possibility of Chapman starting the season in the bullpen?

Not a very RedsZone thing for Walt to say.

Because he was still talking about him starting. Just slowly working up his endurance in the pen until he's stretched out enough to start.

Kc61
12-12-2012, 05:06 PM
Because he was still talking about him starting. Just slowly working up his endurance in the pen until he's stretched out enough to start.

If so, it impacts the roster. It means Leake makes the team as a starter. It means the bullpen is well stocked with Chapman. And it means Reds may have to find a reliever later in the season when Aroldis starts games.

_Sir_Charles_
12-12-2012, 05:10 PM
If so, it impacts the roster. It means Leake makes the team as a starter. It means the bullpen is well stocked with Chapman. And it means Reds may have to find a reliever later in the season when Aroldis starts games.

I don't think there was ever any question that what they do with Aroldis would have instant ramifications on the roster. Early, mid and late season. This is exactly why I felt that Leake would be kept starting and going up and down all year from Louisville. Once Chapman is starting fairly regularly, Leake goes down and a reliever comes up to replace him. When Chapman's NOT starting, Leake is, and the reliever goes down to Louisville because Aroldis will be in the bullpen. Just my take.

RedsManRick
12-12-2012, 05:20 PM
Where is the outrage about Walt leaving open the possibility of Chapman starting the season in the bullpen?

Not a very RedsZone thing for Walt to say.

Most of us are completely cool with getting him there in a reasonable way; just not dismissing the goal entirely.

mdccclxix
12-12-2012, 05:28 PM
So, Chapman in the pen to start the season = Cingrani in AAA to see if he does well there as a starter = Leake can maintain his role as 5th starter = great insurance for injury all around.

puca
12-12-2012, 05:36 PM
Of course last year Walt said how difficult it would be for Chapman to transition to starter in mid-season. If he starts in the pen he will most likely stay in the pen or go down to AAA to stretch out - which would not make Dusty (or a lot of RZers) happy.

edabbs44
12-12-2012, 05:50 PM
Of course last year Walt said how difficult it would be for Chapman to transition to starter in mid-season. If he starts in the pen he will most likely stay in the pen or go down to AAA to stretch out - which would not make Dusty (or a lot of RZers) happy.

Other things that have made a lot of RZers unhappy. Trading Zach Stewart, trading Travis Wood, trading Sappelt, letting Krivsky go, not tar and feathering Walt during his first few years, having patience with certain moves, not quitting on Ludwick last year, etc.

I'm cool with this regime pissing us off once in a while.

Brutus
12-12-2012, 06:08 PM
Of course last year Walt said how difficult it would be for Chapman to transition to starter in mid-season. If he starts in the pen he will most likely stay in the pen or go down to AAA to stretch out - which would not make Dusty (or a lot of RZers) happy.

I think there's a big difference between starting Chapman in the pen with the full preparation that he's going to transition to the starting rotation and having him in the pen and pitching like he's a reliever.

By planning for him to be a starter, they can treat his routine like he's a starter but still limit innings.

cumberlandreds
12-12-2012, 06:24 PM
:beerme:

I was trying my best to keep up. Mo was firing the questions quick! :lol:

Thanks for doing this. Really interesting stuff. He's just a great GM. He knows how to get thigs done and then does it. He will bring a world champion to Cincy. I think he's getting very close to having the team to do it.

lollipopcurve
12-12-2012, 06:47 PM
Yes, thanks for posting -- very interesting. I like how he's not preparing everybody for a one and done for Choo. If Ludwick can't sustain production in LF, the team will have a hole there in 2014, and I know who I'd like to fill it. Would be classic Jocketty.

Chip R
12-12-2012, 11:48 PM
Why would there be outrage? He clearly said it would be starting in the bullpen with the intent of saving Chapman's innings so he could be stretched out through the end of the season.

I just wonder how are they going to do that. If they are going to do that he's surely not going to close unless they go to the old-fashioned closer who pitched 3 innings. That wouldn't be a bad idea but I don't see the Reds doing that. If they were to put him in long relief, I don't see him getting enough work to build up his innings unless Dusty puts Sparky to shame with a quick hook. If the Reds are down 3-0 in the 3rd inning, do they pull the starter and pitch Chapman for 3-4 innings? Dusty's MO is to give his starters every opportunity to get 5 innings in to get that win - even if the Reds are losing. I think we can all agree that Dusty is pretty set in his ways and doesn't change the way he uses his players very quickly.

The other alternative would be to send him down to AAA but I - and many others - would hate to see one of the best arms in baseball not on the Reds.

Kc61
12-13-2012, 12:09 AM
I think there's a big difference between starting Chapman in the pen with the full preparation that he's going to transition to the starting rotation and having him in the pen and pitching like he's a reliever.

By planning for him to be a starter, they can treat his routine like he's a starter but still limit innings.

Let's not kid ourselves. If Chapman begins the season as a reliever and things are going well, there will likely be pressure to keep him in the bullpen.

And like Chip says it's hard to understand how Aroldis prepares to start games by pitching relief.

I'm not taking Walt's comment too seriously, but it does raise the question whether he is firmly committed to Aroldis in the rotation. Dusty might be happier keeping Chapman as the closer, and IMO it sounds like Walt is still unsure of how he will be used.

Brutus
12-13-2012, 12:31 AM
Let's not kid ourselves. If Chapman begins the season as a reliever and things are going well, there will likely be pressure to keep him in the bullpen.

And like Chip says it's hard to understand how Aroldis prepares to start games by pitching relief.

I'm not taking Walt's comment too seriously, but it does raise the question whether he is firmly committed to Aroldis in the rotation. Dusty might be happier keeping Chapman as the closer, and IMO it sounds like Walt is still unsure of how he will be used.

I don't know why there is any indecision about this. It's pretty clear what they're trying to do. The Reds said specifically a few weeks ago that Chapman wouldn't go much beyond 150 innings this year as a starter. The Reds want those innings to continue through the end of the year, not starting at the beginning. They want to use him like Medlen, not like Strasburg.

There won't be any pressure. The only "pressure" about this is coming from Redszone. The Reds have a closer and they have other good arms at the end of the bullpen. They can pitch Chapman every fifth day or so, getting him some bullpen time every third day. And when it comes time to start, they can send him to AAA to get a few starts in to build up his stamina and then bring him back up.

Dom Heffner
12-13-2012, 12:36 AM
The Reds have a closer? The dude with the declining k rate?

WVRedsFan
12-13-2012, 12:59 AM
Other things that have made a lot of RZers unhappy. Trading Zach Stewart, trading Travis Wood, trading Sappelt, letting Krivsky go, not tar and feathering Walt during his first few years, having patience with certain moves, not quitting on Ludwick last year, etc.

I'm cool with this regime pissing us off once in a while.

LOL. So true. And I agree.

Superdude
12-13-2012, 01:46 AM
The other alternative would be to send him down to AAA but I - and many others - would hate to see one of the best arms in baseball not on the Reds.

I still think it's the best way to go. Even if Chapman gets the pseudo starter treatment and pitches 2-3 innings each time out, there's no taking away the fact that the big leagues are hyper-outcome focused. No one wants to see Chapman work on his change up in a tight ballgame when he could easily just blow everyone away with heat. To me, the twenty innings of relief are of pretty dubious value to the team if it means Chapman isn't prepared when the time comes for him to start.

RedEye
12-13-2012, 11:08 AM
We need to pay more attention to what this guy says. He answers almost all of our questions -- and directly at that!

mattfeet
12-13-2012, 01:53 PM
–Jocketty on Choo playing center field: “He’s a great athlete. He goes well side to side. I talked to him about it yesterday. He willing to put the effort in and work with Billy Hatcher and Eric Davis in spring training.”

Very cool to see. I think Choo will be very satisfactory in CF.