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Vottomatic
12-12-2012, 09:04 PM
Catcher - Hanigan - arbitration eligible in 2014; free agent in 2015
1B - Votto - signed through 2023
2B - Phillips - signed through 2017
SS - Cozart - minimum; arbitration eligible in 2015; free agent in 2018
3B - Frazier - minimum; arbitration eligible in 2015; free agent in 2018
LF - Ludwick - signed through 2015; free agent in 2016
CF - Choo - free agent in 2014
RF - Bruce - signed through 2016; free agent in 2017

SP - Arroyo - free agent in 2014
SP - Cueto - signed through 2014, with a team option at $10M for 2015
SP - Bailey - currently arbitration eligible in 2013 & 2014; free agent in 2015
SP - Latos - currently arbitration eligible in 2013, 2014, & 2015, FA in 2016
SP - Leake - currently arbitration eligible in 2013, '14, '15; FA in 2016

RP - Chapman - signed through 2014; arb eligible in '15 & '16; FA in 2017
RP - Broxton - signed through 2015; FA in 2016
RP - Marshall - signed through 2015; FA in 2016
RP - Masset - free agent in 2014
RP - Arredondo - signed; arb eligible in '14 & '15
RP - Ondrusek - currently arb eligible thru '16; free agent in 2017
RP - Lecure - minimum; arb eligible '14 thru '16; free agent in 2017
RP - Simon - currently arb eligible thru '15; FA in 2016
RP - Hoover - minimum; arb eligible in '16; FA in 2019

OF - Heisey - currently arb eligible thru '16; FA in 2017
C - Mesoraco - minimum; arb eligible in '15; FA in 2018
OF - Paul - arb eligible in '14; FA in 2017
IF - Hannahan - signed thru '14; FA in 2015

Bailey and Latos issues will be next.
Lots of relievers up for arbitration, and also Heisey.

Team is pretty intact for the next 2 years though, atleast.

Benihana
12-12-2012, 09:26 PM
That's what's so exciting about this team - it doesn't appear to be falling apart anytime soon.

Hopefully Choo can be replaced by Hamilton.
Hopefully Arroyo can be replaced by some combination of Leake/Corcino/Cingrani

I don't look at Masset as needing a replacement, although Ondrusek and possibly Lotzkar or Cingrani could easily replace him (and/or a veteran major leaguer).

Barring major injuries, there really doesn't appear to be any major holes that need to be filled via trade for the next 18+ months. I'd look to extend Latos and possibly Bailey. By the time one or more of the SP is eligible to leave via FA (not until 2015 at the earliest), one or more of Corcino/Cingrani/Stephenson should be more than ready to step in.

edabbs44
12-12-2012, 09:38 PM
Can't we enjoy 2013 first?

Vottomatic
12-12-2012, 10:49 PM
Can't we enjoy 2013 first?

LOL.

I'm just showing how well this team has been set up by contracts for continuity.

And with continuity, and people locked up, it also gives flexibility.

The amount pitching depth, if Corcino, Cingrani, and Stephenson progress as expected, is incomparable in my lifetime of being a Reds fan. But it also gives the Reds options if a sudden need arises.

And the farm system is restocking itself in the lower levels. By the time some of these contracts expire, surely, replacements will arrive from the minors.

It's a great situation to have.

And if you paid attention in the early 2000's, you remember the yearly scrap heap signings and who's who at all positions. It was hard to keep up and remember anyone.

Tadasimha
12-13-2012, 12:16 AM
That's what's so exciting about this team - it doesn't appear to be falling apart anytime soon.

Hopefully Choo can be replaced by Hamilton.
Hopefully Arroyo can be replaced by some combination of Leake/Corcino/Cingrani

I don't look at Masset as needing a replacement, although Ondrusek and possibly Lotzkar or Cingrani could easily replace him (and/or a veteran major leaguer).

Barring major injuries, there really doesn't appear to be any major holes that need to be filled via trade for the next 18+ months. I'd look to extend Latos and possibly Bailey. By the time one or more of the SP is eligible to leave via FA (not until 2015 at the earliest), one or more of Corcino/Cingrani/Stephenson should be more than ready to step in.

Just a thought on this: if Choo performs well, I make the effort to sign him to a 3 year deal (something along the lines of what Victorino got this year, perhaps). Hamilton is the 4th outfielder in 2014, spelling both Ludwick and Choo and also coming in to pinch run. After 2014, Ludwick is gone: slide Choo over to the LF spot and let Hamilton have CF.

Vottomatic
12-13-2012, 01:02 AM
Another thought.

Cozart has had a bit of the injury bug. Hamilton could be the 4th outfielder and could also fill in at SS if injury beckons.

cumberlandreds
12-13-2012, 09:01 AM
Can't we enjoy 2013 first?

Same here. I'll start worrying about 2014 after the Reds are finished playing in the World Series. :)

Vottomatic
12-15-2012, 01:39 PM
Catcher - Hanigan - arbitration eligible in 2014; free agent in 2015
1B - Votto - signed through 2023
2B - Phillips - signed through 2017
SS - Cozart - minimum; arbitration eligible in 2015; free agent in 2018
3B - Frazier - minimum; arbitration eligible in 2015; free agent in 2018
LF - Ludwick - signed through 2015; free agent in 2016
CF - Choo - free agent in 2014
RF - Bruce - signed through 2016; free agent in 2017

SP - Arroyo - free agent in 2014
SP - Cueto - signed through 2014, with a team option at $10M for 2015
SP - Bailey - currently arbitration eligible in 2013 & 2014; free agent in 2015
SP - Latos - currently arbitration eligible in 2013, 2014, & 2015, FA in 2016
SP - Leake - currently arbitration eligible in 2013, '14, '15; FA in 2016

RP - Chapman - signed through 2014; arb eligible in '15 & '16; FA in 2017
RP - Broxton - signed through 2015; FA in 2016
RP - Marshall - signed through 2015; FA in 2016
RP - Masset - free agent in 2014
RP - Arredondo - signed; arb eligible in '14 & '15
RP - Ondrusek - currently arb eligible thru '16; free agent in 2017
RP - Lecure - minimum; arb eligible '14 thru '16; free agent in 2017
RP - Simon - currently arb eligible thru '15; FA in 2016
RP - Hoover - minimum; arb eligible in '16; FA in 2019

OF - Heisey - currently arb eligible thru '16; FA in 2017
C - Mesoraco - minimum; arb eligible in '15; FA in 2018
OF - Paul - arb eligible in '14; FA in 2017
IF - Hannahan - signed thru '14; FA in 2015

Bailey and Latos issues will be next.
Lots of relievers up for arbitration, and also Heisey.

Team is pretty intact for the next 2 years though, atleast.

Yeah. It's all set up for the leaving pieces to be replaced.

Choo replaced by B. Hamilton
Arroyo replaced by either Leake, Cingrani, or Corcino.
Masset replaced by any number of guys.

Redhook
12-15-2012, 04:58 PM
Yeah. It's all set up for the leaving pieces to be replaced.

Choo replaced by B. Hamilton
Arroyo replaced by either Leake, Cingrani, or Corcino.
Masset replaced by any number of guys.

Why don't you have Chapman listed as a starter? Are you Dusty? ;)