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texasdave
12-13-2012, 10:11 AM
As expected, Billy Hamilton ran away with the top spot. :)

Prospect #2 should be a little more competitive. Didi Gregorius may well have garnered some votes here but he is out in Arizona now. The list was increased from 16 to 20 and there is a space for other, if anyone is so inclined.


As is customary, if anyone would like a prospect added just mention it in this thread and we will get him up there on the next go-around.

mace
12-13-2012, 10:43 AM
Cingrani's performance, Stephenson's upside, or Corcino as the compromise? Still pondering.

dougdirt
12-13-2012, 01:41 PM
Robert Stephenson, without question.

For me, there is a solid gap between the top two guys and the next four guys (then a huge drop off from them). Stephenson is a Top 40 prospect in all of baseball. Cingrani, Corcino, Winker, Travieso.... not so much.

Edd Roush
12-13-2012, 04:34 PM
I like Stephenson a lot, but with the Reds making a run for a 2013 WS, I value proximity to the majors more this year than I have in the past. Cingrani is the kind of guy who could make an impact on the 2013 Reds either in the bullpen or as a fill-in in the rotation. His minor league stats are ridiculous and while Stephenson has a Clemens-like ceiling, I will go with Cingrani's stats and proximity to the majors.

The DARK
12-13-2012, 04:43 PM
Stephenson for the upside, without a doubt. He's the only guy on this list with real ace potential, and from all the reports on his stuff and results in Dayton and Billings, it looks like he's already started to come into his own. I can't see rating a guy with #3 or #4 upside over that, no matter how much of a sure thing Cingrani might be.

Scrap Irony
12-13-2012, 06:19 PM
Stephenson-- the TOR arm possibilities make him, IMO, the easy choice.

A high 90s fastball and very good (if inconsistent) offspeed stuff puts him above anyone else.

I also agree with doug-- there's a gap after these two, then another gap after those five.

marcshoe
12-14-2012, 11:41 PM
First two were easy, but then I'm a big believer in Stephenson. Now things should get interesting.

REDSEER
12-15-2012, 09:01 AM
As someone who saw Stephenson pitch this year and some scouts' reaction to his stuff, it's him without a doubt. The kid has a great arm and great potential with his offspeed pitches.

JaxRed
12-15-2012, 12:48 PM
I'm a ceiling guy over proximity so I went with Stevenson, but Cingrani will be next for me.

Steve4192
12-15-2012, 04:59 PM
I'm a ceiling guy over proximity so I went with Stevenson, but Cingrani will be next for me.

Cingrani's lack of secondary pitches drops him quite a bit in my book. I just can't see a guy with average velocity getting by as a starter with nothing but a fastball. Sure, he gets the most out of that fastball by mixing in a ton of deception and movement, but he doesn't have any other pitches to speak of.

I think he's going to be damn solid lefty out of the bullpen for many years to come, but I can't justify ranking a bullpen guy ahead of guys who are potential starters either on the field or on the mound.

Scrap Irony
12-15-2012, 07:29 PM
Cingrani does have other pitches.

His other pitches are inconsistent. Like every other minor league pitcher.

dougdirt
12-15-2012, 11:15 PM
Cingrani does have other pitches.

His other pitches are inconsistent. Like every other minor league pitcher.

His change up is pretty consistent actually. His slider sucks. It often just resembles a flat low 80's fastball. Every now and again he can snap off one that may be an average pitch.

But the biggest concern is that he simply has no faith to throw the other pitches. Listen to him talk about his stuff. "I throw the fastball. With the fastball." I like Cingrani, quite a bit and think there is a chance that he actually does do something as a starter. I also think there is a real good chance he is going to go through some big growing pains at some point when he reaches the point where guys can hit his fastball.