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webbbj
12-19-2012, 10:55 PM
Discuss

HometownHero
12-19-2012, 11:46 PM
No playing in Denver inflated his numbers to much and his totals for his career aren't high enough even with how wild the play in Denver was when it first opened. In both Denver parks he was 823-for-2163 .380 everywhere else he went 1337-for-4744 .282 and he hit 383 HR but one every 13.95 HR in Denver vs 20.81 everywhere else, that HR per AB on the road is a little bit better than what Ludwick has in his career even with the bad SD power outage.

drowg14
12-19-2012, 11:48 PM
Walker was a very good player. But he was not a great player.

Salukifan2
12-19-2012, 11:49 PM
I loved Larry but he never played a full season and averaged about 135 games a year. He also played in the steroid era and when coors was the launching pad. doesn't have 2500 hits, 400 homeruns, or 1500 rbi. On top of that he never won a championship so id say no to Larry in the Hall.

On a side note it is very possible that Votto ends up with career numbers very similar to Larry's.I know this sorta carries on from the votto poll but its interesting.

drowg14
12-19-2012, 11:53 PM
I loved Larry but he never played a full season and averaged about 135 games a year. He also played in the steroid era and when coors was the launching pad. doesn't have 2500 hits, 400 homeruns, or 1500 rbi. On top of that he never won a championship so id say no to Larry in the Hall.

On a side note it is very possible that Votto ends up with career numbers very similar to Larry's.I know this sorta carries on from the votto poll but its interesting.

Just like with Jim Rice, Votto and Walker played in different eras. Similar numbers mean very different things in context.

Salukifan2
12-20-2012, 12:20 AM
I get that but in the end baseball is baseball is baseball and though there arent as many people hitting 50+ bombs a year today there still lots of hr being hit. Im not comparing someone from 1910 when h fences were 100 feet further and everyone was smaller. I can compare two left handed power hitters who played only a few years apart and neither one ever being accused of using steroids and both playing in tremendous hitters parks.

TSJ55
12-21-2012, 10:14 AM
I was always a L. Walker fan, but the only thing about him that belongs in the HOF is a video loop replay of him giving that ball to a kid and having to get it back b/c there were only two outs. Hysterical.

[deleted]
12-21-2012, 04:44 PM
To those who vote 'no' to Walker: does Helton deserve it?

If not... are we going to simply exclude anyone who plays the majority of their career in Colorado? What will it take for a life long Rockie to get over the Coors hump?

Walker's career WAR puts him around 70th all-time, above the likes of Willie Stargell, Duke Snider, Johnny Mize, Yogi Berra, Jim Thome, Tony Gwynn, Mike Piazza, Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin...

I'm not stating a definitive 'yes' for Walker (I can see both sides of the debate), but every time I see his name discussed, the fall-back is always some variation of "Coors, so no." I don't buy that.

webbbj
12-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Walker had some amazing seasons. I didnt realize how many games he had missed.

But in season he played 120+ games he put up a five 1+ OPS seasons. And 2 more .900+ OPS seasons. Thats 7 great years of production.

Id say he hit his prime in Colorado but his Montreal days were very good as well. IDK he gets my vote. Thats enough greatness for me.