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texasdave
01-11-2013, 01:36 PM
1) Billy Hamilton
2) Robert Stephenson
3) Tony Cingrani
4) Daniel Corcino
5) Jesse Winker
6) Nick Travieso
7) Henry Rodriguez
8) Ismael Guillon
9) Yorman Rodriguez
10) Tanner Rahier
11) Dan Langfield

klw
01-11-2013, 01:37 PM
I'm going to go with Soto here. Hopefully this time it will do the trick.

dougdirt
01-11-2013, 01:58 PM
I went with Rogers. I think he is a very safe bet to be a Major Leaguer. As a reliever, I think he could be really good. I also think there is a chance he can stick as a starter. He has shown the stamina for it, he throws strikes and has good command of his fastball. Lots of groundballs. Just a real safe pick here IMO.

M2
01-11-2013, 02:05 PM
Given Soto's positional limitations (the Reds don't need a 1B) and his BA/OB issues, I just can't see attaching much prospect status to him.

Superdude
01-11-2013, 02:06 PM
I went with Rogers. I think he is a very safe bet to be a Major Leaguer. As a reliever, I think he could be really good. I also think there is a chance he can stick as a starter. He has shown the stamina for it, he throws strikes and has good command of his fastball. Lots of groundballs. Just a real safe pick here IMO.

Alright, you convinced me. It's either Rogers or a shot in the dark candidate like Brean or Reynoso for me here. Rogers seems to have the polish and just enough upside to warrant a spot over those guys.

REDREAD
01-11-2013, 02:20 PM
Given Soto's positional limitations (the Reds don't need a 1B) and his BA/OB issues, I just can't see attaching much prospect status to him.

Not arguing with you.. (I did peek and see who you voted for).

I guess I just consider the young C grade prospects to be such longshots, I'm giving Soto a few bonus points for advancing as far as he did, despite his bad year.
I figure at this point, upside of a poor man's Carmelo's Martinez is worth as much as some of the guys remaining.

I do hope I'm wrong though and all these guys ahead of him on the RZ list make it to the majors though. But you raise a good point, Soto is just one more bad year from being released.

texasdave
01-11-2013, 02:37 PM
David Vidal please. From what I have read he has a major league glove and I think will hit enough to be a regular in the Show. Not an all-star or anything.

Scrap Irony
01-11-2013, 02:59 PM
I considered Vidal, Soto, Lutz, Brean, Moscot, Gelalich, as well as Bryson Smith and Steve Selsky before pulling the lever for Chad "Shark Bite" Rogers. His ceiling is a MOR starter who logs a ton of innings (Mike Leake Lite, IMO)-- which I like. His floor, otoh, is not bad either, as I believe he'll be a Sam LeCure type middle reliever for a few years.

That's nice value for the number 12 pick in an organization, IMO. Especially one such as Cincinnati's, which is undeniably down this season.

Kc61
01-11-2013, 04:06 PM
Lutz. Consistent hitting at several levels for decent power with a solid OPS.

It's between Lutz' consistency and Soto's power for the twelfth prospect IMO. I give the edge to Lutz, but it's a close call IMO.

Rogers seems like a smallish pitcher who has a modest strikeout rate in the minor leagues. So far, his K rate has been declining as he gets to more advanced leagues. I'm sure he has skills, but he's down the list a bit for me, just based on what I've heard on the board and the numbers.

*BaseClogger*
01-11-2013, 04:34 PM
Given Soto's positional limitations (the Reds don't need a 1B) and his BA/OB issues, I just can't see attaching much prospect status to him.

I don't think parent organizational needs should be considered when evaluating prospects. They should be viewed in a vacuum...

dougdirt
01-11-2013, 04:36 PM
Lutz. Consistent hitting at several levels for decent power with a solid OPS.

It's between Lutz' consistency and Soto's power for the twelfth prospect IMO. I give the edge to Lutz, but it's a close call IMO.

Rogers seems like a smallish pitcher who has a modest strikeout rate in the minor leagues. So far, his K rate has been declining as he gets to more advanced leagues. I'm sure he has skills, but he's down the list a bit for me, just based on what I've heard on the board and the numbers.

I am not down on Lutz really, but nothing he did in AA this year suggests consistent hitting. It played as an extreme power park and he struggled to hit there.

Kc61
01-11-2013, 04:46 PM
I am not down on Lutz really, but nothing he did in AA this year suggests consistent hitting. It played as an extreme power park and he struggled to hit there.

Sure, but to be fair to Lutz he moved up to AA mid-season and sometimes guys need time to adjust to a new league and level. That's why I was pleased to see Lutz get hot in the AFL, shows me he could be ready to feast on AA pitching next year.

Lutz did very well at Billings, Dayton, and Bakersfield. He has been a consistent performer and my vote for him is based on an expectation that he will do well at AA next year.

The DARK
01-11-2013, 04:52 PM
I go for Reynoso again here. Upside is king, and unlike guys like Amir Garrett and Juan Duran, he put up improving numbers.

thorn
01-11-2013, 06:55 PM
Can we look at adding Juan Silva in the next few rounds? IMO, I think he is above some of the others already listed.

Red Soup
01-11-2013, 07:02 PM
Lutz. Best power prospect in the organization. It's time.

dougdirt
01-11-2013, 07:08 PM
Lutz. Best power prospect in the organization. It's time.

Is it though? Soto has had a much higher season total than Lutz has. And if we look at just pure raw power, I am not so sure it is him either (though it could be, it is close between a few guys).