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Originally Posted by Stray
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How dare he!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stray
The culture in sports doesn't look kindly on things like that. Rightly or wrongly, Shockey is going to have a hard time making friends around the league if people believe he is the guy who leaked the details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds
LOL @ Goodell.
If you want to come and say you're angered by the lying, then go ahead and say that. But to say it's 'deplorable' or not 'accepted' in the NFL is incredulous. If they're legal hits, why are they getting fined? Everyone tries to hit everyone as hard as possible. Whether or not a DC rewards a team for legal hits doesn't matter.
And I'll be patiently waiting for Mr. Goodell to fine the Bills and Redskins for the same thing that happened in New Orleans.
I think Goodell is worried about the long term viability of the NFL.
The no bounty rule is posted in every locker room. This speaks to the integrity of the NFL and thwey have every right to defend their integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Gack
If players ignored that sign, lied to the league investigators then they deserve whatever comes next when they're caughtQuote:
Detroit Lions defensive end Lawrence Jackson took a similar stance.
“In every locker room, it’s posted clearly: No exceptions to the rule on bounties for hurting people,” he said at a sports conference in Boston Saturday. “I just don’t believe it’s right, on a human level.”
http://theadvocate.com/sports/saints...ocking-to.html
I'm surprised this didn't make it onto this thread, but Goodell has told teams that they have until March 30th to investigate their teams and report if a bounty program exists. If it isn't reported and found to be in place, the punishment is harsher.
I think if this had been Belichick it would have been half the season. Hitting the Saints isn't going to cause as much of a crapstorm as if it had been in a major media market.
He better be. If insurers feel that football (not just the NFL) is not worth the risk to insure the participants, it's going to collapse like a house of cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
Would anybody really be surprised to find out such a program exists on almost every NFL team? though maybe not as brazen as the Saints did it.
Yep. Really weird to think about, I'd hate to lose football, but I'm not sure it can really be made safe enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip R
I agree. Same for boxing and racing (cars, motorcycles, etc). People die b/c of injuries suffered while doing all three of these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
ps - I know about Ray Chapman. Freak thing and no helmets!
I don't think we will lose football in my lifetime. I think what Goddell has to do is make the game as safe as possible. Its ironic to listen to guys on the radio who have realized that you can make it doing other things in life, still talk about the desire to run through a brick wall to play football again. The NFL is just doing their best to make the game as safe as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfaithful
I didn't think there was any real concern over it either, and I think it will always exist in some form, but if insurance companies stop insuring it'll become a secondary sport.
The NFL will always be able to buy insurance, it's high schools and colleges that are going to get priced out. It'll only take a couple of successful class action lawsuits I think.
I read a piece last year and now I can't find it. It mentioned the injury rates in rugby and football. There aren't nearly the numbers of serious injuries in rugby because of the lack of pads. It seems that the players know they're not protected so they tackle accordingly while all the padding gives football players a false sense of security and they hit much harder because of that. I'll try to find the article.
Not the article I was thinking about, but still interesting.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...027053,00.html
There was an article in the WSJ a couple of years ago about someone advocating the football be played without helmets to crack down on vicious hits.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldRightHander