Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea.....
Mench seems to be in decline, sub .700 ops on the year. I'll pass
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Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea.....
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Homer Bailey
For the 80th time... Cordero has a full no trade clause!!!!!!!
That doesn't mean he doesn't want to go to another team. So he could waive it.
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red-in-la
I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.
Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero
Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.
I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this, but I see the Cubs beginning to falter without Kerry Wood.
I think the Reds could make either Jared Burton or Josh Roenicke a closer next year.
The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher.
"I know this trade makes no sense, and is counter to any kind of rational thought, and additionally, there are 100 reasons why it fails to help the team.... however, would you do it?"
No.
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Originally Posted by
red-in-la
I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.
Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero
Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.
The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher.
Heck, throw in Votto and Bruce while you're at it.
:cool:
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klw
But he'll be cheap, which seems to be the most important thing!
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red-in-la
I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this...
At least.
No offense, but they'd be right.
Re: Out-of-left-field trade idea.....
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Originally Posted by
red-in-la
I know this is going to soumd a little nuts, but I had this trade idea whilst watching the Cubs game.
Reds trade: Adam Dunn, Homer Bailey, David Weathers and CoCo Cordero
Cubs trade: Sean Marshall and type A prospect.
I know there are probably hundreds of arguments against this, but I see the Cubs beginning to falter without Kerry Wood.
I think the Reds could make either Jared Burton or Josh Roenicke a closer next year.
The Reds use the saved moeny from Cordero and Dunn to sign a couple of FA outfielders and a high end pitcher.
I'd like to support this trade proposal -- it's not doable (Cordero does have a no-trade clause) -- but it makes a good point. It certainly doesn't deserve the harsh criticisms of this thread.
Fans, Adam Dunn's contract as a Red ends in two months. At that point, he is worth nothing to them except two draft choices if they offer him arbitration. And who knows how draft choices pan out. Repeat -- In eight or nine weeks the Reds don't own Dunn any more.
Weathers is a free agent. He won't be Reds property in two months.
Bailey's value is, well, you saw the game tonight.
Cordero is owed about $40 million over the next three plus years. That's a lot of dough for a closer with his 2008 numbers.
Why does anyone think this collection of contracts would bring a big return? And why is a good young pitcher and an A prospect insufficient?
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So what is the official ruling on trading Cordero. I think everyone knows he has a no-trade but he is always mentioned in proprosed trades. Would the no-trade be able to waived? If so, how realistic is it that that would happen???
Whats the final Redzone verdict...can we bring him up in proposed trades or not.
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Kc61
I'd like to support this trade proposal -- it's not doable (Cordero does have a no-trade clause) -- but it makes a good point. It certainly doesn't deserve the harsh criticisms of this thread.
Fans, Adam Dunn's contract as a Red ends in two months. At that point, he is worth nothing to them except two draft choices if they offer him arbitration. And who knows how draft choices pan out. Repeat -- In eight or nine weeks the Reds don't own Dunn any more.
Weathers is a free agent. He won't be Reds property in two months.
Bailey's value is, well, you saw the game tonight.
Cordero is owed about $40 million over the next three plus years. That's a lot of dough for a closer with his 2008 numbers.
Why does anyone think this collection of contracts would bring a big return? And why is a good young pitcher and an A prospect insufficient?
Why would the Cubs want Dunn and why would they want to take on Corderos contract when he hasn't pitched that well?
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CTA513
Why would the Cubs want Dunn and why would they want to take on Corderos contract when he hasn't pitched that well?
Because the Cubs lack a LH power bat and want to win the WS....in case that hasn't been real obvious to this point.
Cordero, no matter how bad he had looked right now, is a dominating closer for periods of time......if that period is September and October like is was April and MAy, then he sure helps the Cubbies.
Would Cordero, now that he has seen what he is getting as a Red want to waive his clause so he could be a Cubbie and pitch in the WS? I don't know. But he is very expensive, and a left over (in a way) from a previous regime.
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red-in-la
Because the Cubs lack a LH power bat and want to win the WS....in case that hasn't been real obvious to this point.
Cordero, no matter how bad he had looked right now, is a dominating closer for periods of time......if that period is September and October like is was April and MAy, then he sure helps the Cubbies.
Would Cordero, now that he has seen what he is getting as a Red want to waive his clause so he could be a Cubbie and pitch in the WS? I don't know. But he is very expensive, and a left over (in a way) from a previous regime.
I don't see room in the Cubs outfield for him. They already have Soriano, Fukudome, Reed, DeRosa, Edmonds and Ward has played some outfield.
The Cubs already have a good closer in Wood and a closer of the future in Marmol. Wood is on the DL though, but its not like its injury that will keep him out for the season. I could see the Cubs picking up another bullpen arm, but not someone with the type of contract Cordero has unless the Reds pay a chunk of it for them.
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Give the Reds Abreu and Burrell or Dunn to go along with Bruce and you have the best OF in baseball (offensively).
I have to figure the Yanks may want Abreu back.
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Homer Bailey
For the 80th time... Cordero has a full no trade clause!!!!!!!
Maybe the Reds should try to rework his contract in order to allow him to go back to the minors. :p:
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Homer Bailey
For the 80th time... Cordero has a full no trade clause!!!!!!!
Even if it's not for the entire length of the contract, people need to keep this in mind.
By the way, let us also not forget that we're talking about a trade within the division that significantly helps the other team. The Reds are only a couple pieces from truly competing--it's not time to completely rebuild and hand the division to the Cubs for years to come.
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This proposal/thread is something I'd expect to see on the Sun Deck.