Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
REDblooded
Ignore the guy posting above you, because TBH, that's the main issue... There are FAR too many balls that OCab doesn't get to, or field cleanly because of his range... I can see that without the benefit of any fielding metrics...
Exactly when facts disagree with you, the facts are wrong, and your opinion is right. It's a RZ staple.
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reds44
OC had two of the best ABs in the game today, as silly as that may sound.
Gomes, well, yeah.
I was being sarcastic. But in all seriousness, could Gomes have played a worse game? He ALMOST dropped that one fly ball, and he had one ground out that he technically could have struck out on. Otherwise, I'm not sure he could have played worse.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
Ghosts of 1990
All I can say is I'm really down in the dumps fellas. I really am. I took this one hard tonight.
It was one game.
Tip your hat to Halladay and acknowledge the fact he kicked the Reds butts.
Move on to Friday.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Homer Bailey
You don't get it. It's OC and Gomes's fault that we got no hit!
Nice post Captain Hyperbole... Had only a bit to do with getting no-hit... Having them on the field tonight definitely didn't help the team's chances of securing a win. No hitter or not.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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traderumor
That wasn't the point. The point was the fact that he gave several reasons why he chose Volquez for Game #1, while you spout off a baseless opinion without even one reason for your opinion. I think it is a reasonable standard for someone to at least give one reason for a belief. Now, let me climb back on my steed.
I still don't get this TR.
There has been far worse said about Volquez and even disagreement with Dusty's choice with nothing to back it up (in this very thread), and yet you choose to make a point responding to a post of mine in which I say that I don't think he has the makeup to be a big game pitcher. I'm cornfused.
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traderumor
The point was the fact that he gave several reasons why he chose Volquez for Game #1, while you spout off a baseless opinion without even one reason for your opinion.
Uhhh, what? I wasn't even talking about Dusty. I was talking about Volquez. I agreed with the gamble of starting him. It didn't work. Still doesn't change the fact that I doubt he's got it in him to be a big game pitcher. I was just hoping he'd catch lightening in a bottle tonight. So why would you feel the need to even bring Dusty into the discussion? And my opinion is "baseless", but you getting personal is not? okay.
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traderumor
I think it is a reasonable standard for someone to at least give one reason for a belief.
And yet, even though you disagree (with something you think I'm saying, even though I didn't), you give no reason for your belief other than 'Dusty said this and Dusty said that'.
What are you talking about?
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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oregonred
The only thing that irks me is the philospophy of not going for the second best record in the league when it was clearly within grasp. Besides leaving at least $5M in revenue on the table from hosting at least an extra playoff game, with two more wins down the stretch we're getting ready to host Atlanta in Game 1 tomorrow night for a much easlier path to the NLCS while the Phils/Giants have a 5-game death match.
This can't be repeated enough.
Starting with the four games in Colorado, the lackluster 4-3 homestand against the lowly Pirates and Diamondbacks, the 4-5 final road trip of the year and then last Wednesday's white flag game, the Reds left a number of wins on the table the last month of the season. This entire city had a blast last night Tuesday night with what transpired - myself included - but in reality the division should have been clinched on the preceding road trip, and the team should have been sitting on more than merely 91 regular season wins.
I do think we have a pretty good chance to even things up Friday night, but if the Reds come home down 0-2, then there will be an awful lot of reasons to look back on the final four weeks of the season and wonder why they let the Giants pass them by.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
Homer Bailey
Exactly when facts disagree with you, the facts are wrong, and your opinion is right. It's a RZ staple.
Feel free to list the "facts" that are proving your point...
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
BuckeyeRedleg
I don't think Volquez has the makeup to ever be a big game pitcher.
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Originally Posted by
BuckeyeRedleg
I said he might not have the makeup. That I didn't trust what was between his ears to be a big game pitcher. I fully supported the decision to start him today.
You just ran off and got all self-righteous. Go back and read the thread. Don't fall off your horse when you do.
This was all I was referring to. That is where you entered the discussion.
But really, it doesn't matter, what's more important, sorry to hear about your grandfather.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
In all honestly, wouldn't this be the way we have to do this?
We were the only team in baseball history to blow to 6 runs leads in the ninth inning.
So we get no hit in the opener and man up in game 2 and even the series going home.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
Cyclone792
This can't be repeated enough.
Starting with the four games in Colorado, the lackluster 4-3 homestand against the lowly Pirates and Diamondbacks, the 4-5 final road trip of the year and then last Wednesday's white flag game, the Reds left a number of wins on the table the last month of the season. This entire city had a blast last night Tuesday night with what transpired - myself included - but in reality the division should have been clinched on the preceding road trip, and the team should have been sitting on more than merely 91 regular season wins.
I do think we have a pretty good chance to even things up Friday night, but if the Reds come home down 0-2, then there will be an awful lot of reasons to look back on the final four weeks of the season and wonder why they let the Giants pass them by.
When they didn't even try to win the game after they clinched, it was pretty obvious that this was a team that was just happy to be in the postseason. And, frankly, I think most fans felt that way, and will probably still feel that way a few weeks after the season is over.
EDITED TO ADD: And just to be clear, given my expectations at the beginning of the year, I think I feel that way.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
REDblooded
Feel free to list the "facts" that are proving your point...
Orlando Cabrera had a UZR/150 of 5.5 this season, meaning (to my knowledge), he was 5.5 runs above average as a shortstop this year as far as preventing runs on the defensive side of the ball.
You can pick that apart to find whatever holes in his defense that you'd like to find, but it's like saying Jay Bruce isn't good off of ground ball pitchers or something like that. In total, he's been an above average defender this year.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
top6
When they didn't even try to win the game after they clinched, it was pretty obvious that this was a team that was just happy to be in the postseason. And, frankly, I think most fans felt that way, and will probably still feel that way a few weeks after the season is over.
Look at how we celebrated, there's no doubt we were happy just to be here, and we should have been.
Don't be mistaken though, this team has a lot of pride. We'll be ready to go Friday.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
traderumor
This was all I was referring to. That is where you entered the discussion.
But really, it doesn't matter, what's more important, sorry to hear about your grandfather.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'll drop it.
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
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Originally Posted by
top6
When they didn't even try to win the game after they clinched, it was pretty obvious that this was a team that was just happy to be in the postseason. And, frankly, I think most fans felt that way, and will probably still feel that way a few weeks after the season is over.
EDITED TO ADD: And just to be clear, given my expectations at the beginning of the year, I think I feel that way.
Eh? They hammered the Astros on Thursday and beat the Brewers 2 of 3 over the weekend, and should have swept but for Gomes D in LF. :confused:
Re: Halladay throws 2nd postseason no-hitter in history to beat Reds in Game 1
Something that won't happen: Dusty said before the game when asked about his gameplan for tonight that he didn't want to say because "Halladay might be listening." Since whatever that plan was failed, will anyone repeat the question as to what the gameplan was? I didn't see one, and frankly, I'd bet Dusty didn't have one.
