How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
By the time the Winter meetings start
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40-Man Roster
Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
41 Jeremy Affeldt L/L 6-4 225 06/06/79
61 Bronson Arroyo R/R 6-5 195 02/24/77
34 Homer Bailey R/R 6-4 205 05/03/86
** 31 Matt Belisle R/R 6-3 230 06/06/80 60-day Disabled List
45 Bill Bray L/L 6-3 220 06/05/83
51 Jared Burton R/R 6-5 230 06/02/81
48 Fran Cordero R/R 6-3 240 05/11/75
47 Johnny Cueto R/R 5-10 185 02/15/86
** 33 Josh Fogg R/R 6-0 205 12/13/76 60-day Disabled List
39 Aaron Harang R/R 6-7 275 05/09/78
52 Daniel Herrera L/L 5-7 145 10/21/84
57 Mike Lincoln R/R 6-2 215 04/10/75
37 Bob Lvingstn L/L 6-3 205 09/03/82
38 G Majewski R/R 6-1 220 02/26/80
40 Nick Masset R/R 6-4 235 05/17/82
** 50 K Mercker L/L 6-2 205 02/01/68 60-day Disabled List
56 Micah Owings R/R 6-5 220 09/28/82
73 Tyler Pelland R/L 6-0 210 10/09/83
58 Ramn Ramirez R/R 5-10 170 09/16/82
65 Josh Roenicke R/R 6-3 200 08/04/82
53 Da Thompson R/R 6-0 180 11/02/85
36 Ed Volquez R/R 6-0 200 07/03/83
25 Da Weathers R/R 6-3 235 09/25/69
Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
9 Paul Bako L/R 6-2 205 06/20/72
29 Ryan Hanigan R/R 6-0 195 08/16/80
71 Craig Tatum R/R 6-0 225 03/18/83
17 Javy Valentin S/R 5-10 215 09/19/75
Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
* Yonder Alonso L/R 6-2 215 04/08/87
26 Wilkin Castillo S/R 6-0 200 06/01/84
28 Ed Encarnacion R/R 6-1 215 01/07/83
** 2 A Gonzalez R/R 6-0 200 02/15/77 60-day Disabled List
15 J Hairston Jr. R/R 5-10 185 05/29/76
7 Paul Janish R/R 6-2 190 10/12/82
27 Jeff Keppinger R/R 6-0 180 04/21/80
46 Andy Phillips R/R 6-0 210 04/06/77
** 4 B Phillips R/R 6-0 195 06/28/81 60-day Disabled List
60 Adam Rosales R/R 6-1 195 05/20/83
19 Joey Votto L/R 6-3 220 09/10/83
Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
32 Jay Bruce L/L 6-3 205 04/03/87
21 C Dickerson L/L 6-3 225 04/10/82
** 6 Ryan Freel R/R 5-10 185 03/08/76 60-day Disabled List
** 30 N Hopper R/R 5-10 210 03/24/79 60-day Disabled List
23 Corey Patterson
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
5 spots and in a heart beat. Bad part is Krivsky is not doing the mining like in the past. In Walt we must trust but he is very old school and I wonder if he can adapt to the new guys rules and perception on skill sets of players.
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let me guess, Patterson, Hopper, Bako, Fogg and Merker???
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
Goodbye:
Jeremy Affeldt (I want the draft pick)
Matt Belisle (only in a trade; I wouldn't non-tender him)
Josh Fogg (obviously)
Mike Lincoln (I'd keep him if the price is right, but I like the in-house options more i.e. Ramon Ramirez, Josh Roenicke, Danny Herrera, Carlos Fisher, Robert Manuel, etc.)
Bobby Livingston (barely throwing over 80
Gary Majewski (only in a trade; I wouldn't non-tender him)
Kent Mercker (retired)
Ty Pelland (I heard he just had shoulder surgery?)
Dave Weathers (I want the draft pick)
Paul Bako (obviously)
Javier Valentin (not really a catcher; if he were than a first baseman, I'd consider it)
Jerry Hairston, Jr. (injury prone; 2008 was probably a huge fluke)
Andy Phillips (dime a dozen)
Corey Patterson (obviously)
Norris Hopper (but I'd be willing to wait until after the winter meetings)
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
they'll move some guys onto the 40 man to protect them from Rule 5 draft. Not too many, because the Reds didn't draft well three years ago (what a break). Fisher, Lecure, and a lot of maybes: Jukich, Cumberland, Henry, Manual, Castro, Valiquette. Reds are looking carefully at several of those guys right now, as they play in late fall leagues. I can't recall if Travis Wood is eligible-- do HS draftees still get an extra year?
Might be more-- I don't have signing dates on several Latin players. for instance, Viola may finally need to be protected
noticed how Rule 5 is becoming more productive in general in baseball? Reds scored their first success ever with Hamilton and Burton, but there are several other recent successes, including Victorino, who's a key player tonight.
teams are more aggressive in protecting their toolsy youth, allowing more older, accomplished players to fall through the cracks.
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Travis Wood is not eligible, and I'm guessing there's no chance that Jose Castro nor Phil Valiquette will be added to the 40-man roster.
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
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princeton
noticed how Rule 5 is becoming more productive in general in baseball? Reds scored their first success ever with Hamilton and Burton, but there are several other recent successes, including Victorino, who's a key player tonight.
teams are more aggressive in protecting their toolsy youth, allowing more older, accomplished players to fall through the cracks.
Tim Layana was a Rule 5 player as a reliever for the 1990 Reds.
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I believe these are the most important of the guys who need to be protected, and my cutoff line. So I guess that means I need 7-8 spots freed up at minimum and more if I wanna add FA's.
S. Henry
Cumberland
Maloney
Fisher
Geronimo
Manuel
Viola
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LeCure
Gutierrez
Eyemann
Mike Griffin
Smit (Not sure about his status, exactly)
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Eh, I wouldn't worry about Jocketty in the rule 5. K had some success but he also let Cantu go to pick Valenzuela. I'm not trying to start that Cantu thing up again but to point out what a preposterous pick Valenzuela was. Also, the Reds are becoming deep enough and have guys reaching the protect point that may be better than anyone they can grab. I'm more concerned that Jocketty get THAT right. Leave the right guys unprotected. That's the sign a farm system is getting there - when who you might lose is more important than who you might pick up.
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
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Mario-Rijo
I believe these are the most important of the guys who need to be protected, and my cutoff line. So I guess that means I need 7-8 spots freed up at minimum and more if I wanna add FA's.
S. Henry
Cumberland
Maloney
Fisher
Geronimo
Manuel
Viola
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LeCure
Gutierrez
Eyemann
Mike Griffin
Smit (Not sure about his status, exactly)
right, Maloney. Forgot that he wasn't on the 40 man already
Smit's already been on a 40 man, so could be claimed. No loss.
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
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Originally Posted by
Mario-Rijo
I believe these are the most important of the guys who need to be protected, and my cutoff line. So I guess that means I need 7-8 spots freed up at minimum and more if I wanna add FA's.
S. Henry
Cumberland
Maloney
Fisher
Geronimo
Manuel
Viola
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LeCure
Gutierrez
Eyemann
Mike Griffin
Smit (Not sure about his status, exactly)
What's Daniel Dorn's status? If he is one that would be exposed to the Rule 5, I would want to protect him as well.
Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?
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Originally Posted by
Mario-Rijo
I believe these are the most important of the guys who need to be protected, and my cutoff line. So I guess that means I need 7-8 spots freed up at minimum and more if I wanna add FA's.
S. Henry
Cumberland
Maloney
Fisher
Geronimo
Manuel
Viola
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LeCure
Gutierrez
Eyemann
Mike Griffin
Smit (Not sure about his status, exactly)
Protecting Carlos Fisher is a must. He would definitely be picked and is good enough to stay on a 25-man roster all season long. Maloney, Viola, Manuel, and Henry are the others I would make sure to protect. I don't see Geronimo and Cumberland being picked and staying on a roster all season long. Same with Lecure.
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So it's bye-bye to the following:
Belisle (60 Day DL)
Fogg (60 Day DL)
Livingston
Majewski
Mercker (60 Day DL)
Pelland
Bako
Valentin
A. Phillips
Hopper (60 Day DL)
Patterson
That's only 7 spots freed up because of the 4 who are not even on it. So if you wanna keep any of them it will take away from that 7.
Plus 2 more on the 60 Day:
Gonzo
Freel
Also we have these FA's:
Affeldt
Hairston
Weathers
Lincoln
Which means if we re-sign Hairston & Weathers and put Belisle, Gonzo & Freel back on the 40 man we have a whole 2 spots to work with and that's not including Valentin (who they may re-sign), Affeldt or Lincoln.
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AmarilloRed
What's Daniel Dorn's status? If he is one that would be exposed to the Rule 5, I would want to protect him as well.
Obviously he's one I would protect but I'm not sure he's at risk, I don't believe he is.
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I think Lecure will be protected by the Reds. it'll be interesting to find out.
Dorn's got another year, IIRC