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cool. How much was it again!
Not a bad move considering he was going to reach his incentives anyway.
I think this quashes just about every "Trade Casey" idea, at least in the interim.
Those cheap &^##%$. Oh, wait. Those generous $%&^#@$. ;)
captain casey :gac:
Rawk. :gac:
Add me to the positive list... :gac:
It may be another sign that the Keras thing is truthfully in the plans. I always felt that if they dumped the plan (for wahtever reason), plan B was to move Casey and have Jr or Dunn at 1b.
I just hated to picture this team without Casey on it.
A great move that makes quite a statement! :gac:
Wait, what's the "Keras thing" again?Quote:
Originally Posted by deltachi8
here's a link to the story: http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp..._cin&fext=.jsp
You know, John Keras, the guy running for president. They're trying him out to see if he can play the hot corner next year until EE comes up. Then after Keras has a good year next year, they're going to trade him because they won't be able to afford him. Damn taxes on the wealthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynRedz
I think he means Eric Keras as a backup first baseman.
Booya!Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Leader
I don't think this has anything to do with being a "sign" of anything. Let's not read too much into it. Casey was going to reach the incentives that automatically kicked in the extra year. Doing this is good PR in the sense tha it makes it look like they WANTED him bak. I'm not saying they don't, just that they really had no choice, so doing this is the best way to handle it.
Bingo, take an inevitable and spin it into a positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWM
Smart business by the Reds on this one. Now market the guy for cripes sake. The Reds have to get over this stress-the-team-instead-of-the-players mentality and start taking greater advantage of guys like Casey.
$8.5m option for 2006, guaranteed w/ 2 AS or 1500 AB from 2003-2005
$8,500,000 is too much to pay Sean Casey.
Casey markets himself, the Reds just have to learn to play it that way.Quote:
Smart business by the Reds on this one. Now market the guy for cripes sake.
He's a big smiling, pumping fist, lamp black and bat on the ball baseball player.
That stuff is heartland gold, it's a baseball brand.
Now with Barry gone Casey becomes the face of the organization, why I bet he is already more famous than Long John O'Reilly.
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Originally Posted by westofyou
I couldn't possibly agree more, as I'm sure you know.
:thumbup:
I think it is great news as well.
this is good too in helping clubhouse moral, especially after letting larkin go.
Dammit! They did the right thing....how am I supposed to complain now? :p:
Making Casey a central figure in team ad campaigns, rather than say burglars who'll give you a pass if you have Reds memorabilia lying around, might help too.Quote:
Originally Posted by westofyou
That ad campaign was fox driven, they had one for every city, same shot sans the note and the eyeing of the material.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
Look for a Giant Casey and Dunn pairing, two towering guys with bats.
That's what they should do, but when's the last time the Reds took advantage of their own players on the marketing end of things?Quote:
Originally Posted by westofyou
I still say they should run spots where Casey chats up random folks at 1st base like it was his own talk show. You can make the interviewees as far flung as you want (a mock Queen Elizabeth trying to work a lead remains my personal favorite).
God forbid the Reds come up with something on their own instead of using Fox' "fill in the blank with the team name" advertisements. :rolleyes: It reminds me of the old gag on Late Night with David Letterman where they would welcome a new affiliate with the same narration over a generic montage of footage and the only thing that would change would be when they said the city's name, a lake or river and what they produce. The voice that said those things was totally different than Letterman's voice which they used for the narration.Quote:
Originally Posted by westofyou
I just think it's a shame the Reds are so lacking in creativity that they choose to use generic ads. :(
Uh, the Reds aren't running those ads. They're being run by FOX.
The Reds can't tell Fox which ads to run during their games, much like they can't tell Skyline or Chevy or DHL which ads to run during their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip R
I think it's just that Fox has a big ad department and they build a nationwide campaign every year with a series of generic commercials, as described above.
These are Fox promotions, just like a commercial for 24 or OC. They bear the cost, not the Reds.
And they aren't asking you to go to the ballpark, they're asking you to watch on TV.
Casey gets $7.8 M in 2005, and $8.5 M in 2006.
$16.3 M over two years would go a really long way towards buying some better pitchers.
And if we get rid of everyone else, that'll give us $50 million to put toward some pitching!
No, but they can sell those ads to local stations and the local cable company which would put them on their local ads on ESPN and other stations where they put local ads on.Quote:
Originally Posted by iammrred
Not such a bad idea. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by iammrred
Really, if the Reds took what they are paying for position players and used it to pay pitchers and vice versa, they would win more ballgames. I'd bet on it.
Of course they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Heeler
I am so totally confused right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip R
This also gives the Reds a better opportunity to trade him...his FA value would have been higher than what the Reds are paying him, so a team would take the smaller contract and the Reds could get something in return
Don't rule it out
I certainly hope you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
Matt, your radio station is playing this to mean that Casey won't be traded.
Let me see if I can enlighten you. The Reds decide to make some commercials advertising themselves. They go to the local TV stations or the TV stations come to them and the Reds agree to buy time for their commercials. They then make the commercials and the TV stations show them when they and the Reds think fans are going to watch. Not during "Oprah" or "Wheel of Fortune" but during the news or other shows like during UC basketball. Now, you know when you are watching ESPN and a commercial for some local used car company comes on? Those commercials are only being shown in the area that cable company serves. There might be a totally different commercial on in Covington as there would be in Cincinnati because two seperate cable companies serve the area. So what the Reds do is buy that time and have the cable company(ies) show those commercials. You don't need them on the actual telecast of the game. The game should be enough of a commercial.Quote:
Originally Posted by iammrred