6-22 vs Cardinals -- Dunn out of the 6 hole

D. Eckstein ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
J. Edmonds cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
A. Pujols 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .332
R. Sanders lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
L. Walker rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
M. Grudzielanek 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305
A. Nunez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
Y. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .246
M. Mulder p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .154
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
R. Aurilia 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
S. Casey 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .322
K. Griffey Jr. cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .278
J. Randa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
W. Pena rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283
A. Dunn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
J. LaRue c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
R. Ortiz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .059
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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Starting Lineups
No. St. Louis                    Cincinnati
1 David Eckstein, SS          Felipe Lopez, SS
2 Jim Edmonds, CF            Rich Aurilia, 2B
3 Albert Pujols, 1B            Sean Casey, 1B
4 Reggie Sanders, LF          Ken Griffey Jr., CF
5 Larry Walker, RF            Joe Randa, 3B
6 Mark Grudzielanek, 2B      Wily Mo Pena, RF
7 Abraham O. Nunez, 3B    Adam Dunn, LF
8 Yadier Molina, C            Jason LaRue, C
9 Mark Mulder, P              Ramon Ortiz, P

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Please tell me this is a joke.

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Originally Posted by KronoRed

Please tell me this is a joke.

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Ok, it's a joke.;)

same :censored: , different manager

Maybe if LaRue has a couple of good games, they can drop Dunn to 8th...that's of course on days that Keisler doesn't start. :rolleyes:

Reds' starters today versus Mark Mulder:

Lopez- .200/.200/.200 in 5 at bats

Aurilia- .095/.174/.143 in 21 at bats

Casey- .417/.417/.833 with a homer and a run batted in in 12 at bats

Griffey- .400/.400/.600 in 5 at bats

Randa- .333/.343/.606 with 2 homers and 6 RBI in 33 at bats

Dunn- .125/.222/.250 with a run batted in in 8 at bats

Pena- .000/.000/.000 in 6 at bats

LaRue- .000/.000/.000 in 4 at bats

Ortiz- Never Faced Mulder

Utterly ridiculous. Dunn's going to get a lot of pitches to hit with LaRue protecting him.

I'm almost hoping he gets traded this point, to a team who realizes his talent and actually (gasp) recognizes that he's a middle of the order hitter.

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Originally Posted by guttle11

same :censored: , different manager

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It's worse, I don't think Miley ever put Dunn in the 7 spot.

can a mod combine and sticky please, Im getting confused :confused:

wow....just....just wow.

I can't believe people were really expecting something different. We all know DanO isn't a numbers guy so why should his manager be one.

Please trade Dunn.

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

Please trade Dunn.

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Agreed, this is ridiculous, if we won't use him lets get him to a team that will.

I just missed the fact that Timmy continues to occupy the 2-hole.

I'd be slightly more ticked if I actually cared about this team right now. Reds management breeds apathy.

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I can't believe people were really expecting something different.

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I can't believe that everyone expects immediate gratification myself.

As for the trade Dunn folks.. come on..... you're talking about where he bats as a reason to trade him?

I'd rather he bat 6th for my team than cleanup for another.

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

Please trade Dunn.

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.....to the Phillies

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Originally Posted by Stewie

.....to the Phillies

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No..to anyone but the Phillies :devil:

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Originally Posted by westofyou

I can't believe that everyone expects immediate gratification myself.

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Well, it's not as though it's a "slow but steady" process to move someone in a batting order.

Cardinals' starters today versus Ramon Ortiz:

Eckstien- Never Faced Ortiz

Edmonds- Never Faced Ortiz

Pujols- Never Faced Ortiz

Sanders- Never Faced Ortiz

Walker- .250/.500/.500 with 2 RBI in 4 at bats

Grudzielanek- .000/.000/.000 in 7 at bats

Nunez- Never Faced Ortiz

Molina- Never Faced Ortiz

Mulder- Never Faced Ortiz

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Well, it's not as though it's a "slow but steady" process to move someone in a batting order.

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Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

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Dem hangings are good!

(Good point, though)

:bang: Why not just bat Dunn 9th and by done with it.
I thought the Reds couldn't find a worse manager than Bob Boone, and they came up with Miley. Then I thought that surely they couldn't find a worse manager than Miley...... :bang:

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Originally Posted by guttle11

can a mod combine and sticky please

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Its what we do best... :)

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Originally Posted by zombie-a-go-go

Dem hangings are good!

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I like to bring a Picnic Basket.

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Of course in the micro it is a LH going who throws good junk (Reds Kryptonite).. but we won't let that get in the way of hanging a fresh corpse. :mooner:

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We do like out hangings around here ;)

Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

Of course, if Kelly were healthy he'd be playing and Dunn would be on the bench, so Naroon doesn't even have that going for him ;)

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

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If he goes around the bend that Ace is only worth 10 points.

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

Maybe Narron is going to move Dunn to the 2/3 hole slowly via the long route.

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The universe is shaped exactly like the earth
If you go straight long enough you'll end up where you were

What's the over/under on the number of innings Ortiz goes today? I'll put in for 4.1.

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Originally Posted by KronoRed

Of course, if Kelly were healthy he'd be playing and Dunn would be on the bench, so Naroon doesn't even have that going for him ;)

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no! Its N-a-r-o-o-n. Jeez.

The starting rotation, the pen and the FO bother me a lot more than does the batting order.

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Originally Posted by westofyou

If he goes around the bend that Ace is only worth 10 points.

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5 if it's not supportted by a King.

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Originally Posted by GoReds

What's the over/under on the number of innings Ortiz goes today? I'll put in for 4.1.

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3, if we get lucky.

With the premise of giving your best hitter the most abs, why one would want dunn in the middle of the order against a good lefty is beyond me. Plus, Miley was sitting him against lefties, so at least he's in the lineup. Dunn has accomplished a lot in his young career, but hitting lefties is still an area that needs work.

BTW, LaRussa will drop Edmonds down in the order to the 6 hole against lefties, I even think I've seen him bat him 7th at times. And LaRussa's record sucks :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

The starting rotation, the pen and the FO bother me a lot more than does the batting order.

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except its a symptom of the general organizational ineptitude that has provided those other, more serious problems.

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Originally Posted by Stewie

.....to the Phillies

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...to the Rockies :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by traderumor

Dunn has accomplished a lot in his young career, but hitting lefties is still an area that needs work.

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For the last 3 years, including so far this year, Dunn hits lefties better than Randa.