Phillip Ervin 1st Pro Homer
Phillip hit his 1st pro Home Run tonight in the 9th inning vs Helena. On the night he was 2 for 5 , a single the homer and 4 rbi's. It was a no doubter hit deep into the stands in lf.
Billings was up 9-2 after the homer at which point I turned the game off.
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If Ervin continues to mash at Billings for 10 to 20 games, I think they should simply promote him to Dayton.
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I say he'll be in AA before the year is over. He's the same age as Yorman who is in AA.
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powersackers
I say he'll be in AA before the year is over. He's the same age as Yorman who is in AA.
I would bet you everything I had that this won't happen.
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It does seem a bit much. I doubt the Reds would want to push him that hard. He's just getting started; let's let him properly develop.
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If he continues to mash..... have him do a month in Billings, move him to Dayton on July 20 and he can have 5 weeks there.
Start him in Bakersfield in 2014 and move him to AA after a month.
Keep your franchisees and their fan bases happy.
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dougdirt
I would bet you everything I had that this won't happen.
This guy made AA in year one. And I could probably find a dozen other examples. Why so sure Ervin can't do it?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=rendon001ant
Edit: Looks like Rendon didn't sign and make it in the draft year. But it was a different draft system then. He might have.
This guy did:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=wacha-001mic
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powersackers
Because that isn't how the Reds operate.
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Vottomatic
If Ervin continues to mash at Billings for 10 to 20 games, I think they should simply promote him to Dayton.
Very few, if any, personnel moves should be based on 10-20 games.
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kaldaniels
Very few, if any, personnel moves should be based on 10-20 games.
I guess the Reds made a huge mistake then, promoting Stephenson from Billings to Dayton last year after just 7 starts. Hmmm.
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Vottomatic
I guess the Reds made a huge mistake then, promoting Stephenson from Billings to Dayton last year after just 7 starts. Hmmm.
Seven starts by a pitcher is about the equivalent of 5 weeks of a hitter. Still a small sample, but much bigger than 10-20 games.
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dougdirt
Seven starts by a pitcher is about the equivalent of 5 weeks of a hitter. Still a small sample, but much bigger than 10-20 games.
7 games for a starting pitcher is 7 games. They don't play in between.
But nice try though.
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Vottomatic
7 games for a starting pitcher is 7 games. They don't play in between.
But nice try though.
7 games for a starter is a lot more work than 7 games for a position player. In 7 starts a pitcher faces 150 batters. In 7 games a position player has 25 at bats.
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dougdirt
7 games for a starter is a lot more work than 7 games for a position player. In 7 starts a pitcher faces 150 batters. In 7 games a position player has 25 at bats.
Keep moving the goal posts in this argument to win it. Never fails.
I'm moving on.
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Vottomatic
Keep moving the goal posts in this argument to win it. Never fails.
I'm moving on.
I never set any goalposts.
Still hate the "moving goalposts" crap though. Discussions are never about a single, solitary thing. Of course the conversation will evolve beyond one specific thing said. Why that continues to shock people who then claim "moving goalposts" is something I will never understand. This isn't math. We didn't say 2+2=4. Then say well 4+2=6, so you were wrong when you said 2+2=4. The original poster was making a point that for Phillip Ervin 10-20 starts, which would be about 40-80 at bats even though he didn't specifically state it, was not reason enough to promote someone. You then began talking about pitchers and starts, which if someone else would have said that you probably would have claimed moving goalposts. So I simply stated that 25 at bats isn't the same as 35 innings/150 batters faced.