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2012 UC Football Official Thread
I know there are UC football fans on Redszone, but no official thread. Well, after seeing a three page thread dedicated to UK Football (kudos to UK fans), I'm starting one!
Kickoff is this Thursday against Pitt at Nippert. Pitt was the victim of a big upset in their opener against Youngstown State; however, the consensus is that Pitt isn't that bad. The are two big questions in my mind about this game: (i) whether the Bearcats can contain Ray Graham, who is returning from an ACL tear; and, (ii) whether Munchie is the answer at QB. There's no question UC lost a lot of talent from last year's squad, but they could still put together a great season. I think this season will be a big challenge for Butch Jones. Unfortunately, if he exceeds expectations, we may not see him around next season.
What does everyone else think about this 2012 season? I can't make it to the game Thursday evening. Is anyone else going?
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This is one of three big games this weekend for the Big East against the present/future ACC. Temple hosting Maryland and UConn hosting NC State are the other two. It's critically important for the Big East to continue besting the ACC on the field. It would be really nice to have Pitt and Cuse finish last and second last in the conference this year (and it's certainly possible).
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I'm worried about Munchie. Can he throw enough to keep himself from getting crushed while running the ball too much? Do they have anything behind him if he fails?
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Sea Ray
I'm worried about Munchie. Can he throw enough to keep himself from getting crushed while running the ball too much? Do they have anything behind him if he fails?
Brendon Kay wouldn't be a terrible alternative. He has the skills to be a decent D1 quarterback, but Munchie has a lot more in game experience. I think Munchie has the raw talent to succeed, but he hadn't quite put it all together by the end of last season. This season? TBD. He needs to be more comfortable in the pocket, and, IMHO, the coaching staff needs to take better advantage of his legs.
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I'm looking forward to watching the game tomorrow night and see what they've got this year
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Sea Ray
I'm looking forward to watching the game tomorrow night and see what they've got this year
I really wanted to go to the game, but I have an event to attend. Hopefully, I'll be able to catch the second half.
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wolfboy
I really wanted to go to the game, but I have an event to attend. Hopefully, I'll be able to catch the second half.
Are they expecting a sellout?
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Boston Red
This is one of three big games this weekend for the Big East against the present/future ACC. Temple hosting Maryland and UConn hosting NC State are the other two. It's critically important for the Big East to continue besting the ACC on the field. It would be really nice to have Pitt and Cuse finish last and second last in the conference this year (and it's certainly possible).
While I think beating the ACC on the field is important, it would be an even bigger coup if the Big East is able to get a better television contract than the ACC. I think that's clearly the goal of Aresco, the new BE commish.
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Sea Ray
Are they expecting a sellout?
Not sure. I saw this on another message board:
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Greg Harrell @Cats_Tix_Greg
@tdawgcincy Will need to finish strong. 101, 201, 213-215 are sold out. Those are usually the main seats leftover. That's good news.
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Oh, and I heard Pitt returned their allotment after selling around 80 of 3,000 tickets. :lol:
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wolfboy
While I think beating the ACC on the field is important, it would be an even bigger coup if the Big East is able to get a better television contract than the ACC. I think that's clearly the goal of Aresco, the new BE commish.
I think it's all part of the same thing. A bad product is harder to sell.
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wolfboy
Oh, and I heard Pitt returned their allotment after selling around 80 of 3,000 tickets. :lol:
The ACC's getting an all-around gem there. From the did you know file: in 2011-12, Pitt won one less Big East title than Loyola (MD).
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Boston Red
I think it's all part of the same thing. A bad product is harder to sell.
Yeah, I guess I meant in the short term. I'd love to trample all over Pitt and 'Cuse this year (and every year), but these contract negotiations are beyond critical for the future of the Big East.
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wolfboy
Oh, and I heard Pitt returned their allotment after selling around 80 of 3,000 tickets. :lol:
Let's not exaggerate. They sold 89.
I'll be there. Word is that the students gobbled up many of the returned tickets and will be out in force. It should be a fun environment.
Oh, and as a reminder to those going to the game: wear black.
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I'm excited to see how UC does this year. My main concern is not with the team though, it is with fan support. If fan support is strong, I think Butch is in it for the long haul. If UC still struggles with support, I think it makes it very unlikely that Butch would be willing to stick it out. Honestly, why should he? Butch reportedly turned down some very good offers last year because he believed he could build this program and gain the fan support. Not so sure he would be willing to do the same again this time around.
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As UC fans we can't get caught up in worrying ourselves about coaches leaving. If they do (and they will), we'll be a prime place for the next up and comer. There will always be jobs better than UC. That will not change. If we're being picked over by other programs then that means UC is playing well. I much prefer that to the days of Tony Mason when our coaches stayed
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I'm fired up for tonight's game. My expectations are tempered based on the quantity and quality of the players we lost, but there is enough talent on this roster to surprise some people and make a run at it. Obviously a lot of that rides on Munchie's shoulders. A little nervous about our d-line and linebackers also.
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I feel as though the football program could use a new tradition. So I am suggesting that in the fourth quarter when the clock ticks down to the 4:20 mark everybody stand up and yell "Munchie" :)
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texasdave
I feel as though the football program could use a new tradition. So I am suggesting that in the fourth quarter when the clock ticks down to the 4:20 mark everybody stand up and yell "Munchie" :)
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Sea Ray
As UC fans we can't get caught up in worrying ourselves about coaches leaving. If they do (and they will), we'll be a prime place for the next up and comer. There will always be jobs better than UC. That will not change. If we're being picked over by other programs then that means UC is playing well. I much prefer that to the days of Tony Mason when our coaches stayed
I agree. There are very few schools in NCAA football that are immune to coaches jumping ship for a "better opportunity." Just look at the resumes of the coaches of some of the top teams. Nick Saban went from the Big 10 to the SEC to the NFL and back to the SEC. We've seen Urban Meyer go from the SEC to the B1G. Lane Kiffin went from the NFL to the SEC to the Pac-10. UC is much more prone to the coaching carousel than most coaches, and that will always be the case until there's greater alumni support coupled with greater football spending by the university. Keeping coaches is a problem at UC, but it's a problem everywhere. All you can do is create a next coach in environment.
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wolfboy
I agree. There are very few schools in NCAA football that are immune to coaches jumping ship for a "better opportunity." Just look at the resumes of the coaches of some of the top teams. Nick Saban went from the Big 10 to the SEC to the NFL and back to the SEC. We've seen Urban Meyer go from the SEC to the B1G. Lane Kiffin went from the NFL to the SEC to the Pac-10. UC is much more prone to the coaching carousel than most coaches, and that will always be the case until there's greater alumni support coupled with greater football spending by the university. Keeping coaches is a problem at UC, but it's a problem everywhere. All you can do is create a next coach in environment.
This is true to an extent, but no program can survive at this level with constant turnover. If UC fans would pack Nippert every game, no matter the opponent or the current state of the team, it would be much easier to create some stability. If a coach still decided to leave, I would have no problem with it. We did our best as UC fans. The problem to me is that UC fans don't always show up when they should. By that, I mean if everyone who complains about how UC can't keep coaches would show up to a game or two, UC might fare much better in keeping them. Same on the basketball side of things.
While I can agree you shouldn't worry about a coach leaving, that doesn't mean you shouldn't worry that fans and the school aren't doing everything possible to make it harder for them to leave. Coach Jones won't be here forever, but any effort UC and fans are able to make that can extend his stay should be made. I'm not so sure fans are holding up their end of the bargain sometimes.
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Bearcats force a three and out and then on their first play from scrimmage George Winn takes it 58 yards to the house. 7 zip Bearcats.
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Is UC really good, or is Pitt really bad? I find myself not really caring right now. What a game so far for UC.
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Next Pitt possession ends in a quarterback fumble after being sacked by Stewart. Several plays later Munchie connects with Abernathy on a 15-yard TD. 14-0.
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Is it just me or does David Pollack look insanely skinny. He looks nothing like a former NFL linebacker.
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Nice INT by Greg Blair in the endzone. He's looked pretty good tonight.
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SeeinRed
Is UC really good, or is Pitt really bad? I find myself not really caring right now. What a game so far for UC.
After watching the first half, I feel confident in saying that Pitt is that bad. Sunseri is a terrible quarterback.
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17-0 Bearcats at the half. Two Pitt turnovers to none for Cincy.
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wolfboy
After watching the first half, I feel confident in saying that Pitt is that bad. Sunseri is a terrible quarterback.
I agree. Their defense is horrible too. Terrible tackling. The ACC is getting a real stinker of a team here. But that's not curtailing my enjoyment of it one bit
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Panthers gets a field goal and it takes the 'Cats two plays to answer. Munchie rushes for 77 yards. George Winn gets his second touchdown from nine yards out. 24-3.
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It's not everyday you see a 99-yard drive. UC is looking decent, and Pitt is looking bad.
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Really nice win for UC. RDA4? Yes, please.
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Good start to the season. Man Pitt is really bad though.
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That was fun. Just wish I were in Cincinnati to have seen it in person.
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Great atmosphere at Nippert tonight.
Pitt is a trainwreck of a team, though. Wouldn't read too much into any of this.
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Caveat Emperor
Great atmosphere at Nippert tonight.
Pitt is a trainwreck of a team, though. Wouldn't read too much into any of this.
I agree, but for a team that is reloading, they looked pretty darn good.
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No need to wonder if UC played great or Pitt played awful. When the domination is that severe, both happened.
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swaisuc
No need to wonder if UC played great or Pitt played awful. When the domination is that severe, both happened.
Pitt lost to Youngstown State by two touchdowns. Pitt lost to UC by three touchdowns and a field goal.
So what do we know after the first game? We are definitely better than Pitt and probably better than Youngstown State.
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wolfboy
Pitt lost to Youngstown State by two touchdowns. Pitt lost to UC by three touchdowns and a field goal.
So what do we know after the first game? We are definitely better than Pitt and probably better than Youngstown State.
It might as well have been four touchdowns and a field goal because Pitt's TD was definitely in garbage time.