right, but since they declined his option, he was technically a free agent. or so it has been explained to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by flyer85
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right, but since they declined his option, he was technically a free agent. or so it has been explained to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by flyer85
When was the last time "Gully" fixed anyone? 1992?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheels
Goes to one of my theories about baseball people. They can tell you what they're doing at a given moment, but don't ask them to think too much (they'll hurt themselves).Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynRedz
Well, I guess he "fixed" Pete Schourek in like 1995.
But I get your point.
If he was a free agent, they couldn't trade him. The Angels declined an option and had to offer him arbitration by Dec. 20 if they wanted to keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynRedz
The Reds now have to offer him arbitration by that date if they want to keep him.
I was one of those who hated that signing. But I like this one - I think Ortiz has much more potential to help the Reds than Lidle ever could.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
I was right on Lidle, lets hope I'm right on Ortiz.
Any chance the Reds will non-tender him, ala Pokey Reese and Boston a couple of years ago. In other words, if he isn't willing to sign a 2 year deal for $7MM or less, than just let him walk. "All if cost" to try was a ML pitcher you didn't think was ever going to amount to anything.
Thing is that would mean they gave Moseley away for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWM
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I hope they all work out, but Ortiz's 5.14 K/9 over the past two seasons scares me, a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puffy
I think his arm is about to fall off.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
I really hope they don't throw too much dough at this guy.
I'm excited that that the Reds have showed a pulse in the front office. On the other hand I'm confussed with the mixed messages being sent.
Dan O has repeatedly said the Reds will not sign anyone that will cost them a draft pick. So they go out and trade one of their better prospects??? What's the deal, I think everyone would rather have D Mos than a risky 1st or 2nd round pick who will be 4-5 years away.
Just make up your mind. Are we building through the farm system? Or are we going to try to finish 3rd?
Pick a side and stick with it.
Yeah, no doubt there is stuff to be scared about - but all reports I read last year and this winter have been that is stuff is still there, he just needs to get his head straight and some consistentcy back.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
Lidle never had stuff, so right there Ortiz is a better option, in my book.
Dang. And here I was working on a little project and missed this.
I don't like this one to start out with.
If this turns into a "Moseley/can't re-sign Jimenez because of the money paid to Ortiz" trade, it'll be one of the dumber things I've seen.
And that's saying a lot.
hmmm, ok. not totally sure what that means or where that's coming from but thanks for the tidbit. you know, you could also apply that same "theory" to lots of "people."Quote:
Originally Posted by M2