Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
smixsell
Ondrusek looked GREAT tonight. I'm encouraged.
He did actually look pretty good tonight. Seemed to be cutting the ball again and even got some whiffs on a little changeup or splitter at the end.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
Superdude
He did actually look pretty good tonight. Seemed to be cutting the ball again and even got some whiffs on a little changeup or splitter at the end.
His change was very nice.
I've always thought Ondrusek was underrated here at RZ.
I really like him better than Hoover.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
Well, in case someone missed this, Marshall was throwing in the bullpen today, said he felt good.
I think they said the plan was for him to throw again on Sunday (or maybe they said Saturday).
Anyhow, looks like Marshall is on schedule :)
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...anky-shoulder/
Those who know about arm/shoulder issues, what's really going on here?
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
NebraskaRed
Cranky shoulder? Some folks would put it in time out, while others would go for a good 'ol fashioned swat on the bum.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
I think this is the reason why Baker is using Marshall basically as a LOOGY.
If he overuses him, he might miss the season.
Better to limit his use and get some effective use in high leverage situations than lose him entirely.
Another example of fans not having the same info as the team.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
I think this is the reason why Baker is using Marshall basically as a LOOGY.
If he overuses him, he might miss the season.
Better to limit his use and get some effective use in high leverage situations than lose him entirely.
Another example of fans not having the same info as the team.
I said on the game thread that it was odd that Broxton and Marshall never warmed up.
But I disagree with Fay's suggestion here because it wasn't simply a matter of Marshall or Latos. There are other relief pitchers.
Marshall was the ideal choice, true, but Dusty should have relieved Latos that inning - even if Sean wasn't available. Fortunately, it worked out ok.
As for Dusty's general use of Marshall, injury or no, I endorse it. Marshall is especially tough on lefties, should mostly face lefties. There are other guys to focus on the righties.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
I think this is the reason why Baker is using Marshall basically as a LOOGY.
If he overuses him, he might miss the season.
Better to limit his use and get some effective use in high leverage situations than lose him entirely.
Another example of fans not having the same info as the team.
I actually agree with this assessment, but to play devils advocate a bit, what if the "cranky" shoulder is due to lots of warming up but very little actual work. Maybe he needs longer stints in order to stay in game shape? I remember I had a teammate who was like that...but he complained alot so I took everything he said with a grain of salt.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
Kc61
I said on the game thread that it was odd that Broxton and Marshall never warmed up.
But I disagree with Fay's suggestion here because it wasn't simply a matter of Marshall or Latos. There are other relief pitchers.
Marshall was the ideal choice, true, but Dusty should have relieved Latos that inning - even if Sean wasn't available. Fortunately, it worked out ok.
As for Dusty's general use of Marshall, injury or no, I endorse it. Marshall is especially tough on lefties, should mostly face lefties. There are other guys to focus on the righties.
And just for the record...yeah, like we have a "record" LOL. Broxton DID actually warm up today. He got up when Simon did. He sat down once Dusty selected Simon though.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
I think this is the reason why Baker is using Marshall basically as a LOOGY.
If he overuses him, he might miss the season.
Better to limit his use and get some effective use in high leverage situations than lose him entirely.
Another example of fans not having the same info as the team.
It could be that. Or it could just be that this showed up yesterday.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
dougdirt
It could be that. Or it could just be that this showed up yesterday.
Except he had it when the season started, and there was another time this year when he wasn't available. And now this time.
So, it's clearly been recurring.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
_Sir_Charles_
I actually agree with this assessment, but to play devils advocate a bit, what if the "cranky" shoulder is due to lots of warming up but very little actual work. Maybe he needs longer stints in order to stay in game shape? I remember I had a teammate who was like that...but he complained alot so I took everything he said with a grain of salt.
I don't seem to recall lots of warming up when not used?
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
Except he had it when the season started, and there was another time this year when he wasn't available. And now this time.
So, it's clearly been recurring.
He said he hurt himself during spring training by throwing to much and not realizing that spring training was extended due to the WBC.
Re: Sean Marshall to DL; Ondrusek called up
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
I don't seem to recall lots of warming up when not used?
Not exactly what I mean. I mean warming up in many games only to be used for VERY short stints...1 batter.