Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
mth123
Somebody mentioned Michael Young (maybe earlier in this thread or another thread). I like the idea. Free agent to be on a fading team. Young at 3B with Frazier free to move to LF wouldn't be so bad. Young would be a good fit in the 2 hole as well. Phils need reinforcements. H-Rod/Corcino with Philly covering some money sounds fair for a two month rental.
Agreed.
As far as RH OF with some pop-I still think Morse would be a relatively cheap rental from Seattle. He's a butcher in LF but would be an intimidating presence in GABP. He wouldn't be my first choice but he's a name to consider.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
Low risk chance
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...rticleid=20848
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A name from the past just might wind up surfacing as a potential boost to some club’s offense during the pennant race. Free-agent outfielder Grady Sizemore has been working out as he continues to recover from the microfracture knee surgery that caused him to miss last season with the Indians and is hoping to be ready to play after the All-Star break.
Sizemore has appeared in just 104 major-league games since the start of the 2010 season and hasn’t stayed healthy for a full year since 2008. However, he is still only 30 years old and averaged 5.0 WARP a season from 2005-08.
“I’d take a shot on him, let him try to work his way up through the minor leagues, see if he has anything left,” said an FOT from a contending team. “His talent was undeniable when he was healthy. “
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
westofyou
Wouldn't bother me a bit.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
RedsManRick
I think he's back at the end of August so he can be on the post-season roster, even if he's not 100%.
As long as he's on the DL, he's eligible for the post-season.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
If I were the Reds, I'd give him a shot. Make him go through a try-out and sign him to a deal that requires him to show some spark in AAA first.
I really don't think you can count on Ludwick coming back and being the same player he was after shoulder surgery. It zaps power hitters power.
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I'm fine with taking a flyer on Sizemore, but my gut tells me he is done.
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Sizemore is too much of a risk. He hasn't played since 2011 and was never that good. He had some solid years but not enough talent imo to make a comeback.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
Trajinous
Sizemore is too much of a risk. He hasn't played since 2011 and was never that good. He had some solid years but not enough talent imo to make a comeback.
What do you see as the risk?
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
Trajinous
Sizemore is too much of a risk. He hasn't played since 2011 and was never that good. He had some solid years but not enough talent imo to make a comeback.
No risk at all and well he was good for a small chunk of years
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YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
2005 Indians 22 158 640 111 185 37 11 22 3.44 81 52 132 22 10 .289 .484 .348 .832
2006 Indians 23 162 655 134 190 53 11 28 4.27 76 78 153 22 6 .290 .533 .375 .907
2007 Indians 24 162 628 118 174 34 5 24 3.82 78 101 155 33 10 .277 .462 .390 .852
2008 Indians 25 157 634 101 170 39 5 33 5.21 90 98 130 38 5 .268 .502 .374 .876
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
westofyou
No risk at all and well he was
very good for a small chunk of years
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YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
2005 Indians 22 158 640 111 185 37 11 22 3.44 81 52 132 22 10 .289 .484 .348 .832
2006 Indians 23 162 655 134 190 53 11 28 4.27 76 78 153 22 6 .290 .533 .375 .907
2007 Indians 24 162 628 118 174 34 5 24 3.82 78 101 155 33 10 .277 .462 .390 .852
2008 Indians 25 157 634 101 170 39 5 33 5.21 90 98 130 38 5 .268 .502 .374 .876
I made a slight revision to your post.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
wolfboy
What do you see as the risk?
Taking a spot away from even a replacement player on the roster. I'd rather watch Robinson or someone else in AAA have a shot than a player that's years removed.
I don't foresee Sizemore as outperforming anyone on our bench. The guy peaked at the age of 23 in 2006 then showed steady decline from there. He's 30 and hasn't played a full season since 2008. Why do you think he'll be effective? He only has name recognition.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
Trajinous
Taking a spot away from even a replacement player on the roster. I'd rather watch Robinson or someone else in AAA have a shot than a player that's years removed.
I don't foresee Sizemore as outperforming anyone on our bench.
Personally, I just don't see how taking away a spot/plate appearances from Robinson hurts the team. Conversely, if Sizemore can perform anywhere close to where he was at his peak, the payoff would be amazing. Classic low risk/high reward transaction IMHO.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
Trajinous
Taking a spot away from even a replacement player on the roster. I'd rather watch Robinson or someone else in AAA have a shot than a player that's years removed.
I don't foresee Sizemore as outperforming anyone on our bench. The guy peaked at the age of 23 in 2006 then showed steady decline from there. He's 30 and hasn't played a full season since 2008. Why do you think he'll be effective? He only has name recognition.
He doesn't even have to take a spot from the roster. They could sign him to a minor league deal with incentives and activate him later.
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
westofyou
No risk at all and well he was good for a small chunk of years
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YEAR TEAM AGE G AB R H 2B 3B HR HR% RBI BB SO SB CS AVG SLG OBA OPS
2005 Indians 22 158 640 111 185 37 11 22 3.44 81 52 132 22 10 .289 .484 .348 .832
2006 Indians 23 162 655 134 190 53 11 28 4.27 76 78 153 22 6 .290 .533 .375 .907
2007 Indians 24 162 628 118 174 34 5 24 3.82 78 101 155 33 10 .277 .462 .390 .852
2008 Indians 25 157 634 101 170 39 5 33 5.21 90 98 130 38 5 .268 .502 .374 .876
Look at all those strikeouts. Pass.
Kidding. :O)
Re: Ludwick out until at least mid-August
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Originally Posted by
wolfboy
Personally, I just don't see how taking away a spot/plate appearances from Robinson hurts the team. Conversely, if Sizemore can perform anywhere close to where he was at his peak, the payoff would be amazing. Classic low risk/high reward transaction IMHO.
That was SEVEN years ago!!!! Xavier Paul is putting up better numbers than Sizemore did in his last 5 seasons. You're delusional to expect anything more than a .250+ avg from Sizemore. He could have some power off the bench but that's it.