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Can't wait to see what Germano can bring (if anything) to the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainmorgan07
Interesting. I thought it would be 1 of the AA guys.Quote:
Belisle goes home, Germano en route
CHICAGO -- Following this afternoon's game, Matt Belisle headed back to Cincinnati. He's experiencing pain in his lower back and will be examined by Doc Kremchek tomorrow morning.
There is no DL move yet, but just in case, the Reds are having Justin Germano fly into Chicago so they'll have another body available tomorrow night. Germano is 3-6 with a 4.66 ERA in 10 starts for Louisville.
It sounds like Germano wont be able to pitch unless Belisle goes on the DL.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainmorgan07
Im guessing they must think Belisle is going to go on the DL if they are flying Germano to Chicago.
I hope he does well and some other guys in the pen head out as a result
I can't get real excited about Germano. It's scarey knowing he is the best that the Reds minor league system currently has to offer. I hope I am wrong about him though and he comes up here and pitches well, the bullpen needs a boost to say the least.
That doesn't mean he is the best they have to offer. With the option rules along with starting the free agent clock it could just be an emergency guy that they can send back down. Too bad Wagner isn't ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo
Belisle is more of a swing guy, a guy you have go out there multiple innings. I think thats why they called up Germano. Wagner seems like a 1 inning relief guy... and thats if he can even put up a good performance. He's been terrible. Looking more and more like a bust, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reds1
Ryan Wagner still has enough upside that he'll get tossed into some deal as filler. He actually might be back something.
Didn't Belisle have back surgery in the minors???
I would have preferred Coutlangus (insert crude joke here)....
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Originally Posted by chicoruiz
Toss in Shafer & Dumatrait and DFA some of the stiffs in the 'pen. Watch Jerry Narron self-destruct at the thought of not much 'veteran-ess' in the 'pen.
Hard to sum up in words how much I don't want to see soft-tossing Justin Germano taking the mound in a Reds uniform.
Geez, everyone is talking about Germano and not even mentioning that it's a shame about Belisle!
I hope what ever it is that it's minor. Good luck to you Matt; get well quickly.
TB, you and I are always thinking the same thing (kinda scary, huh??). :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamBoone
Get well soon, Matt!!!
$10 says he gets lit up.Quote:
per marcs blog belisle having back problems germano called up
Well, Germano was a Dan O'Brien acquistion and we have seen how they have been turning out.
also on rotoworld.com:
Matt Belisle returned to Cincinnati following Monday's game to have his sore lower back examined.
If Belisle required a DL stint, the Reds will call up Justin Germano to pitch in middle relief.
Too bad he can't sink some of those soft tosses.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
Anyone know just how long this has been bothering Matt?
As if the bullpen wasn't bad enough, Belisle may be headed to the DL. :bang:
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...redsbreak.html
- Either the starters will need to start going 8 or 9 innings every start.
- The offense will need to start scoring 10+ runs per game to outscore the opponent.
- We're screwed.
Welcome back to the major leagues, Joe Mays.
It must not be from the work load. Maybe the bullpen seats are uncomfortable. OTOH, maybe back soreness is why he hasn't been used any more. If Claussen continues to struggle, I would like to see Belisle and him trade places once Belisle gets healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Madden
I don't think Claussen would be any better in the pen than he would be as a starter. His problem is consistancy but then again when Belisle started last year he wasn't that consistent either. Calling up Germano doesn't excite me that much but it saves them from making a 40 man move and going with untested AA arms. So for now i hope Justin has some sucess and something is done about the White, Shackelford, and Mercker triumverate of crappy pitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Heeler
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Originally Posted by reds44
I read a piece a couple of days when Krivsky was asked about a prospect at AA and he said he does not skip levels, so it's not likely we will see anyone make a jump from AA to the majors on Krivsky's watch.
...and we thought Rick White is the problem
bad, bad, bad
It's now official, Belisle to the DL retoractive to Sunday, Germano recalled.
i think this goes to the same reason we talk about in the bailey thread. krivsky knows you must DEVELOP the players fully or as much as possible before you bring them up. you can get away with bringing guys up early, but i dont think they will ever be as good as they could have been or be as complete and thus make your team as good as if you let them develop in the minors. i dont want a team of guys who cant play d, cant run the bases right, cant bunt, cant be a "pitcher" etc. we already have that ;) i want guys who do it all right and are talented. see the cardinals :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Heath
You mean like Albert Pujols who went from Single A to the majors in the Cardinal organization??Quote:
Originally Posted by NewEraReds
Albert Pujols is a freak of nature. It's not really fair to hold him up as the example, because very, very few players compare to him.
Claussen has had plenty of time to make strides toward being a good starting pitcher. Belisle has yet to have an opportunity to start on a consistent basis. At this point we prett well know that Claussen is an OK 5th starter, but you cannot count on him to be any more than that. Belisle showed signs last year of being at least an OK 5th starter. Maybe his is better than that, and maybe his is worse. I think that the time has come to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed
If I were the manager, I wouldn't even consider moving Claussen to the bullpen.Quote:
Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed
Traditionally, Claussen often has a bad first or second inning, and then settles down quite nicely. Nine times out of ten, that's ok for a starter as long as he doesn't give up so many runs early on that he puts the team out of it from the get-go... but it's certainly not a trait that will EVER be effective from someone coming out of the bullpen. It would/could potentially be suicide to the team.
Belisle officially placed on DL a/o 5/28...JG gets the call.
Germano was the throw in and Chick was the real chip in the Randa deal, right?
I believe that was the case, though Chick has the higher "ceiling" and Germano was "safer". If my memory serves me correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsManRick
Agreed, if someone is good enough they will make it up fast, those guys are rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Serafini
Get the time machine running and we can go back in time and draft Pujols.Quote:
Originally Posted by KronoRed
:devil:
Chris Hammond says hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
There is a place for soft tossers, especially ones with good control. Germano is supposed to have that. I wouldn't want 11 of him, but I'll take a couple. He doesn't walk a ton of guys, but is a little too hittable. He's allowed 8 HR this year, which probably puts him right where the rest of the Reds starters are.
I don't know if he's an upgrade over Belisle... in fact I'd wager he's a downgrade. But I prefer him to Rick White.
We'd find out he's 45 and he'd tear his rotator cuff ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CTA513
Naw, with the management at the time he'd still be in AA