Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Doc. Scott
As a backup. LaMarre has been viewed as a "tweener" since even before he was drafted- and while he runs and gets on base well, he lacks power. He'll be 24 all season and has never hit more than six homers per year in three as a pro.
Agreed- as a backup. I never saw LaMarre with significantly more upside than Heisey. Just pointing out that we have another backup CF that hits righty in the system and possibly ready to step in if necessary.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Doc. Scott
As a backup. LaMarre has been viewed as a "tweener" since even before he was drafted- and while he runs and gets on base well, he lacks power. He'll be 24 all season and has never hit more than six homers per year in three as a pro.
I don't care about his offensive profile. If he can hit lefties a little bit and play plus defense, he would be a perfect late-season complement to Choo. He would also make a nice long-term backup to Hamilton.
That said, if some GM gets it in his head that LaMarre is a legit difference maker (like Towers did with Gregorius), I take what I can get for him in a trade. If not, I'm content with him being a quality backup CF.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
I'd still imagine that Jay Bruce ends up logging some innings in CF over the course of the season.
Choo - L
Phillips - R
Votto - L
Ludwick - R
Bruce - L
That's a pretty cool little run there. Wouldn't exactly call it "Murderer's Row," but I'll be very happy if it turns out to be "Involuntary Manslaughter Alley."
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Caveat Emperor
I'd still imagine that Jay Bruce ends up logging some innings in CF over the course of the season.
Choo - L
Phillips - R
Votto - L
Ludwick - R
Bruce - L
That's a pretty cool little run there. Wouldn't exactly call it "Murderer's Row," but I'll be very happy if it turns out to be "Involuntary Manslaughter Alley."
Haha, which is also better than last year's "Fleeing the Scene of the Crime Circle".
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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mdccclxix
Haha, which is also better than last year's "Fleeing the Scene of the Crime Circle".
Which quickly turned into "Expired Tags Cul-De-Sac" when Joey went down.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Caveat Emperor
I'd still imagine that Jay Bruce ends up logging some innings in CF over the course of the season.
Choo - L
Phillips - R
Votto - L
Ludwick - R
Bruce - L
That's a pretty cool little run there. Wouldn't exactly call it "Murderer's Row," but I'll be very happy if it turns out to be "Involuntary Manslaughter Alley."
I see what you did there
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Steve4192
I don't care about his offensive profile. If he can hit lefties a little bit and play plus defense, he would be a perfect late-season complement to Choo. He would also make a nice long-term backup to Hamilton.
That said, if some GM gets it in his head that LaMarre is a legit difference maker (like Towers did with Gregorius), I take what I can get for him in a trade. If not, I'm content with him being a quality backup CF.
Agreed. I see LaMarre as the heir to Heisey, so long as he can maintain a .700-.750 OPS in the majors as a 4th OF.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Caveat Emperor
I'd still imagine that Jay Bruce ends up logging some innings in CF over the course of the season.
Choo - L
Phillips - R
Votto - L
Ludwick - R
Bruce - L
That's a pretty cool little run there. Wouldn't exactly call it "Murderer's Row," but I'll be very happy if it turns out to be "Involuntary Manslaughter Alley."
Against RHP, this part of the lineup is pretty close to Murderer's Row. It would be better if Phillips weren't a DP man, but I'm not sure there are many teams that can match it.
Over the last three years, against righties, Choo has a .403 OBP and a .918 OPS.
Over the last three years, against righties, Votto has a .446 OBP and a 1.038 OPS.
Over the last three years, against righties, Bruce has a .337 OBP and an .879 OPS.
The offense against righties was transformed by this move.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
Please start the season early.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Kc61
Against RHP, this part of the lineup is pretty close to Murderer's Row. It would be better if Phillips weren't a DP man, but I'm not sure there are many teams that can match it.
Over the last three years, against righties, Choo has a .403 OBP and a .918 OPS.
Over the last three years, against righties, Votto has a .446 OBP and a 1.038 OPS.
Over the last three years, against righties, Bruce has a .337 OBP and an .879 OPS.
The offense against righties was transformed by this move.
And considering the traditional splits run in the 70/30 range, it should make this offense very good.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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traderumor
And considering the traditional splits run in the 70/30 range, it should make this offense very good.
Keep in mind also that Phillips and Ludwick do pretty well against righties for right hand hitters. Murderer's Row, I say.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
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Originally Posted by
Caveat Emperor
That's a pretty cool little run there. Wouldn't exactly call it "Murderer's Row," but I'll be very happy if it turns out to be "Involuntary Manslaughter Alley."
CE, you are on fire lately. More Spanish please.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
I don't think you'll see as many DatDudeDP's while he's in the 2 hole. At the top of the order he looks to get on base more often. He starts hitting into DPs when he's in the 4 hole and hitting for power.
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
Re: Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious
Choo has been known to take poor routes in the outfield.
Expectations should be low but it would not surprise me that Bruce eventually ends up covering center and Choo returns to the corner.
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westofyou