Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
Kc61
There are very few ways to measure future success or failure in baseball. One important way is to look at the schedule. Home. Away. Playing tough teams. Playing weak teams.
Nobody knows if the Cards or Pirates will be hot or cold going forward. You can guess based on last year or based on stats. But none of these teams is the 27 Yankees, they go hot and cold. Nobody knows which they will be.
So one guideline to look at is schedule.
The Washington Nationals have the best record in baseball. The Cards play them seven times. The Reds and Pirates are done with them. I think that is quite significant.
You obviously don't. Fine. But when the Cards play the Nationals while the Reds are playing the Astros, I'll take my chances with that situation.
What I know is that if you run correlation to future results, one would first want to look at the team playing those games before worrying about who and where they're being played.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
Brutus you edited that post quicker than a Billy Hamilton sprint down the first base line.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
George Foster
It does hold special implications because they lost a game they should of won...it's called a 2 game swing in the standings. That's the implication.
That would be true if it was 17-0 or a blown 8-run lead.
No difference.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
6-4-3 DP. 8-5 Cards mid 9th.
One last chance. Phillips, Ludwick and Bruce due up
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
cincrazy
Brutus you edited that post quicker than a Billy Hamilton sprint down the first base line.
That's usually how quick I can realize how stupid I was :)
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
HBP, walk, dinger to tie it up and send it into extras.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
Brutus
What I know is that if you run correlation to future results, one would first want to look at the team playing those games before worrying about who and where they're being played.
You can run all the correlations you want.
But nobody, not even you, knows how the Pirates or Cards will be playing over the next weeks. It's a very long season and teams go hot and cold.
A critical element of this is the nature of the opposition. So that's what I tend to look at.
Particularly this year when there are two doormat teams in the Central. Which teams face the Astros and Cubs the most is important. Those teams lose so often.
So we disagree, but I have always focused on schedule in looking to possible future results and will continue to do so. It doesn't mean it works every time, they have to play the games.
But if the Cards can prevail given their schedule, they will have climbed a huge hill.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
What is incredibly aggravating about this Reds pitching staff is how Jekyll and Hyde they can be, save Cueto. Start to start doesn't bother me, as anything can happen between starts, but how quickly things can turn south for the remaining four starters is baffling. They can look like a Cy Young candidate in one inning and implode the very next inning. I know, that's just baseball, but it still blows my mind at times.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
Phillips grounds out to 2nd.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
powersackers
Don't we all learn that in little league? Stubbs has so many holes in his game. I would've moved him for Victorino and laughed at those who were asking for him.
Is there a stat somewhere that can tell me how many times Stubbs has been down 0-2? It seems like 75% of the time.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
George Foster
Is there a stat somewhere that can tell me how many times Stubbs has been down 0-2? It seems like 75% of the time.
Yeah, but Phillips is constantly down 0-2 also. He can handle it. Stubbs can't.
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
Ludwick lines a single to left
Re: 8/24/12 - Reds vs Cards
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Originally Posted by
Kc61
You can run all the correlations you want.
But nobody, not even you, knows how the Pirates or Cards will be playing over the next weeks. It's a very long season and teams go hot and cold.
A critical element of this is the nature of the opposition. So that's what I tend to look at.
Particularly this year when there are two doormat teams in the Central. Which teams face the Astros and Cubs the most is important. Those teams lose so often.
So we disagree, but I have always focused on schedule in looking to possible future results and will continue to do so. It doesn't mean it works every time, they have to play the games.
But if the Cards can prevail given their schedule, they will have climbed a huge hill.
No, I don't know. But I do know that the talent and ability of the teams is the more important factor first and foremost. So I'm not going to concern myself too with with the schedule when I feel St. Louis is flat out a better team than Pittsburgh. And that's becoming more and more clear by the week.