Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
Brutus
After looking at the replay over and over, I actually think it was the right call by rule. The shortstop was able to get under the ball with routine effort. By rule, that's all that matters.
The only reason he didn't catch it is for a miscommunication.
Then why wasn't it called before the time when Kozma backed away from it?
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by MLB Rule 2.0
An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare “Infield Fly” for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare “Infield Fly, if Fair.”
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
Then why wasn't it called before the time when Kozma backed away from it?
Umpires are taught to be patient before calling it. It actually is recommended that the umpire waits to make sure an ordinary effort can be made. The umpire waited to see that the shortstop was able to get under the ball, which he did, and he called it. That's actually the right mechanics.
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Brutus, respectfully, I think you're being contrarian here.
It has to be called immediately. The ball was just above Kozma's head when it was called.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
PuffyPig
Then why wasn't it called before the time when Kozma backed away from it?
Because the umpire was incompetent and should not be allowed to umpire a little league game.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
Wonderful Monds
Brutus, respectfully, I think you're being contrarian here.
It has to be called immediately. The ball was just above Kozma's head when it was called.
Exactly. Inexcusable incompetent call.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
Wonderful Monds
Brutus, respectfully, I think you're being contrarian here.
It has to be called immediately. The ball was just above Kozma's head when it was called.
No it absolutely does not. In fact, umpires are taught to wait to make that call. I'm not being contrarian... it's the right call by rule.
The shortstop got under the ball with ordinary effort. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter how soon or how late the umpire made the call. In fact, they're supposed to wait until they're sure it will require ordinary effort. The shortstop was literally under the ball and got away from it thinking the LF was calling him off. That's ordinary effort despite the mix-up with his own guy.
Actually, I'd say that you're being a contrarian considering you're basically complaining that an umpire followed the rulebook and are upset because you are assuming the timing of the call makes any difference. It actually does not.
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David Wells pointed out that if the umpire had called it right away, the man on second probably scores and its 6-4 with a man on second.
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Originally Posted by
WildcatFan
They didn't celebrate when they clinched the wild card. Wanted to wait until they advanced past the play-in game.
That's right, nevermind.
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Folks, the umpire is SUPPOSED to wait to make that call. It's not an immediate call unless it's immediately obvious.
The fact the umpire waited to make the call does not make it a bad call. In fact, it means he actually did exactly what he was taught to do.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
WildcatFan
David Wells pointed out that if the umpire had called it right away, the man on second probably scores and its 6-4 with a man on second.
That doesn't matter. Wells doesn't know what he's talking about. The call does not have to be called right away. It's not a dead ball so it actually doesn't matter when the call is made. The runners advance at their own risk regardless of what happens.
Re: Postseason Scoreboard watching....
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Originally Posted by
Brutus
After looking at the replay over and over, I actually think it was the right call by rule. The shortstop was able to get under the ball with routine effort. By rule, that's all that matters.
The only reason he didn't catch it is for a miscommunication. I think the absolute right call was made... at least by rule. That, in my opinion, was a good call.
It simply wasn't routine. He didn't even catch it, regardless of the reason.
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If the only problem with the call was "miscommunication", then I expect to see a lot more "miscommunication" between outfielders with runners on and less than 2 outs in 2013.
-Matt