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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
Didi hit a bomb off Volquez last night...that's all.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
dougdirt
I don't put any faith in the BR fielding stats.
With UZR, I have more faith, but I will be waiting for the Fielding Bible, especially for a guy with about 60% of a season. Cozart seems about right in that above-average area. Gregorius just doesn't jive with the eye test of a below average defender for me. Maybe he is, I haven't watched him play a ton this year, but I have seen him play a ton in the past and that just doesn't jive with him being a slightly below average defender.
Who needs UZR and fielding stats, just use your eyes:
http://wapc.mlb.com/play/search/?pla...=Zack%20Cozart
Especially this one:
http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id...ayer_id=446359
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
powersackers
Yup, highlights are the best way to evaluate!
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
TOBTTReds
Yup, highlights are the best way to evaluate!
Video or in person is the only way to evaluate fielding actually.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
powersackers
Video or in person is the only way to evaluate fielding actually.
Shouldn't there also be a way to do meta-analysis? I understand that fielding stats are still in their infancy, but we shouldn't just throw them out with the bath water IMO. That said, I agree that they should be complemented by visual analysis.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
RedEye
Shouldn't there also be a way to do meta-analysis? I understand that fielding stats are still in their infancy, but we shouldn't just throw them out with the bath water IMO. That said, I agree that they should be complemented by visual analysis.
Video and live analysis are crucial to evaluating a players defense. But you also need statistical analysis to see how they are doing against their peers.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
powersackers
Video or in person is the only way to evaluate fielding actually.
Which is why I like The Fielding Bible. They review every single fielded ball in the game on video to determine the value of the play.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
dougdirt
Which is why I like The Fielding Bible. They review every single fielded ball in the game on video to determine the value of the play.
Sounds like a job for Sheldon, Leonard, Howard, and Raj. With resultant disagreements on interpreting observations.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
traderumor
Sounds like a job for Sheldon, Leonard, Howard, and Raj. With resultant disagreements on interpreting observations.
And any disagreements are solved by playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, Spock
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
CySeymour
And any disagreements are solved by playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, Spock
What does Spock beat?
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
CySeymour
And any disagreements are solved by playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, Spock
It's actually, Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock
It goes like this,
Scissors cuts Paper
Paper covers Rock
Rock crushes Lizard
Lizard poisons Spock
Spock smashes Scissors
Scissors decapitates Lizard
Lizard eats Paper
Paper disproves Spock
Spock vaporizes Rock
....and as it always has, Rock crushes Scissors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSLeBKT7-sM
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
traderumor
Sounds like a job for Sheldon, Leonard, Howard, and Raj. With resultant disagreements on interpreting observations.
You have no idea...I've been that nerd!
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
So...an update on Drew Stubbs's first season in Cleveland:
So not exactly a changed guy like some thought (trust me, some folks on here were talking about how he is a new hitter after one month in Cleveland). His slash line fell just below career averages across the board.
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
TOBTTReds
You have no idea...I've been that nerd!
great post
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Re: Tracking - Alonso, Grandal, Volquez, Boxberger, Sappelt, Wood, Torreyes
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Originally Posted by
TOBTTReds
So...an update on Drew Stubbs's first season in Cleveland:
So not exactly a changed guy like some thought (trust me, some folks on here were talking about how he is a new hitter after one month in Cleveland). His slash line fell just below career averages across the board.
Think he would have been a useful tool in CF this year with the amount of time Ludwick missed, but yeah he is what he is.
Didi finished with a .252/.332/.373/.704 line as a 23 year old. Not terrible, but not "good" either.