2010 "Grade / Rate My Fantasy Draft" Thread

Back again. I won my league last season and was able to keep 4 players. Our system requires us to forfeit the draft pick used to take the player in the previous year in order to keep, and allows 2 keepers from the first 8 picks and two keepers from the final 8 picks.

So, I started the draft with the following keepers:

1. Chris Johnson
2. Randy Moss
10. Ray Rice
12. Rashard Mendenhall

To that, I added to end up with the following team (start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 T/W, 1 K, 1 DEF):

QB: Kevin Kolb PHI
RB: Chris Johnson TEN
RB: Ray Rice BAL
WR: Randy Moss NE
WR: Larry Fitzgerald ARI
W/T: Marques Colston NO
TE: Brent Celek PHI
K: Stephen Gostkowski NE
DEF: Arizona

BN: Ben Roethlisberger QB-PIT
BN: Jonathan Stewart RB-CAR
BN: Rashard Mendenhall RB-PIT
BN: Bernard Barrian WR-MIN
BN: Mohammed Massaquoi WR-CLE
BN: Mike Williams WR-TB

The only position I'm really worried about is QB. I waited to add one, mostly because I didn't pick until the 3rd round due to keeper slots and most anyone worth taking was already off the board via pick or keeps by that point. I think Kolb has good breakout potential, but huge bust potential as well. I got Roethlisberger late in the draft due to his suspension, but he's been a solid fantasy QB when he plays, so all I really need to do is survive 4 weeks of Kolb to get him in there.

Otherwise, I'm very happy with my squad.

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Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

Back again. I won my league last season and was able to keep 4 players. Our system requires us to forfeit the draft pick used to take the player in the previous year in order to keep, and allows 2 keepers from the first 8 picks and two keepers from the final 8 picks.

So, I started the draft with the following keepers:

1. Chris Johnson
2. Randy Moss
10. Ray Rice
12. Rashard Mendenhall

To that, I added to end up with the following team (start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 T/W, 1 K, 1 DEF):

QB: Kevin Kolb PHI
RB: Chris Johnson TEN
RB: Ray Rice BAL
WR: Randy Moss NE
WR: Larry Fitzgerald ARI
W/T: Marques Colston NO
TE: Brent Celek PHI
K: Stephen Gostkowski NE
DEF: Arizona

BN: Ben Roethlisberger QB-PIT
BN: Jonathan Stewart RB-CAR
BN: Rashard Mendenhall RB-PIT
BN: Bernard Barrian WR-MIN
BN: Mohammed Massaquoi WR-CLE
BN: Mike Williams WR-TB

The only position I'm really worried about is QB. I waited to add one, mostly because I didn't pick until the 3rd round due to keeper slots and most anyone worth taking was already off the board via pick or keeps by that point. I think Kolb has good breakout potential, but huge bust potential as well. I got Roethlisberger late in the draft due to his suspension, but he's been a solid fantasy QB when he plays, so all I really need to do is survive 4 weeks of Kolb to get him in there.

Otherwise, I'm very happy with my squad.

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No offense but you are either in a 6 team league or playing against football idiots.

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Originally Posted by Cedric

No offense but you are either in a 6 team league or playing against football idiots.

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Or a 3-team league and playing against those idiots' children.

Larry Fitzgerald in the 3rd Round?

Graduate from Kindergarten, quit the league and join a real one.

You asked for a grade and that's an honest assessment.

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Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

The only position I'm really worried about is QB. I waited to add one, mostly because I didn't pick until the 3rd round due to keeper slots and most anyone worth taking was already off the board via pick or keeps by that point. I think Kolb has good breakout potential, but huge bust potential as well. I got Roethlisberger late in the draft due to his suspension, but he's been a solid fantasy QB when he plays, so all I really need to do is survive 4 weeks of Kolb to get him in there.

Otherwise, I'm very happy with my squad.

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Might want to watch the teams that have a starting qb that could be replaced. One example is Arizona where Max Hall might overtake Derek Anderson at some point. Who knows, never know when the next nobody qb becomes a somebody.

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Originally Posted by Kingspoint

Or a 3-team league and playing against those idiots' children.

Larry Fitzgerald in the 3rd Round?

Graduate from Kindergarten, quit the league and join a real one.

You asked for a grade and that's an honest assessment.

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It's a 10 team with people who I was in a fraternity with, and 1 or 2 added on people. I'd say there's only 1 person in the league who I'd qualify as a non-hardcore football fan. We've all been playing together for about 5 years, this the first year we decided to carry keepers from the previous year.

Fitzgerald fell to the third because:

1. Most people lost Round 1 & 2 picks for keeper reasons.
2. Most of the top backs were kept as keepers, leading to an early run on the available rushers (Gore, Mathews, Green, Best) to fill out the rosters of teams that didn't have keeper-worthy RBs.
3. The guy who had Fitzgerald last year elected to keep Jones-Drew and Rivers instead.
4. (speculating) Concerns that he'll have a tough time w/ Derek Anderson at QB and the potential for a rookie (Hall) taking over midseason.

By way of comparison, I'm in a league with a bunch of court staff people from my old rotation, and I ended up with this draft -- which I don't think is that much worse than my other league:

QB: Kevil Kolb
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: Cedric Benson
WR: Marques Colston
WR: Reggie Wayne
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
TE: Kellen Winslow
W/R/T: C.J. Spiller
K: Jeff Reed
D: Baltimore

BN: Matt Forte
BN: Mike Wallace
BN: Donald Brown
BN: Kareem Huggins
BN: Johnny Knox
BN: Derek Anderson

You need to find better competition.

Any league where you are able to get C. Johnson, Wayne, Colston, and Fitzgerald is a league not worth playing in unless you are best friends with all the other owners and just like to rub it in that they are worthless fantasy players.

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Originally Posted by Buckeye33

Any league where you are able to get C. Johnson, Wayne, Colston, and Fitzgerald is a league not worth playing in unless you are best friends with all the other owners and just like to rub it in that they are worthless fantasy players.

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It's all a bunch of court staff people -- a couple bailiffs, a probation officer or two, etc. The opportunity for trash talking at court will be fantastic during the course of the season.

So much hate, boys.

Looks like the planets aligning for CE is all that's happened here.

He got Rice really late (as we all could have) in 2009, he is a stud now.

He got to add Fitzgerald because most people are going to steer clear of a guy who lost an MVP QB and now has....er....Derek Anderson. I passed on him in every league. Why take a chance with a high pick that could ruin your team? And this os the perfect roster to take a chance on him with. Guys like Fitzgerald are either awesome, or basically Ochocinco level- who knows? I'm not taking that chance at 2. Early 3? Okay, nice upside. Fitzgerald has name value, but so did Randy Moss in Oakland, and I just want no part of that. Point being that we dont know if CE is loaded at wideout because we don't know how good Derek anderson is going to be.

lAs with all 10 team leagues, there isn't quite enough talent to be loaded at every single position and CE hit it on the head: Kevin Kolb is the QB. That could be rough. However, you can stream this position fairly easily in a 10 team league if he doesnt work out. And if it doesnt work out you have a top7 guy in Ben coming back in week 6.

This looks par for the course for a ten team league, especially given the fact that Colston has lived off his reputation of 3 or 4 years ago. Too many vultures in that offense for my liking. I own him but Im already regretting it LOL...

This team is pretty awesome, and I agree with your assessment: It rests on Kolb and Fitzgerald being good.

QBs - Matt Schaub , Jason Campbell
RBs - CJ Spiller, Ryan Matthews, Brian Westbrook, Kevin Faulk, Leon Washington
WRs - Terrell Owens, Mike Sims-Walker, Eddie Royal, Greg Camarillo, Julian Edelman
TEs - Jermichael Finley, Heath Miller, Rob Gronkowski
Defense - New York Jets
Defensive player - Charles Woodson

No kicker.

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Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

By way of comparison, I'm in a league with a bunch of court staff people from my old rotation, and I ended up with this draft -- which I don't think is that much worse than my other league:

QB: Kevil Kolb
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: Cedric Benson
WR: Marques Colston
WR: Reggie Wayne
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
TE: Kellen Winslow
W/R/T: C.J. Spiller
K: Jeff Reed
D: Baltimore

BN: Matt Forte
BN: Mike Wallace
BN: Donald Brown
BN: Kareem Huggins
BN: Johnny Knox
BN: Derek Anderson

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Looks like a good team . Kolb should at least put up decent numbers with Maclin/Jackson/Celek/Avant and Mccoy

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Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

So much hate, boys.

Looks like the planets aligning for CE is all that's happened here.

He got Rice really late (as we all could have) in 2009, he is a stud now.

He got to add Fitzgerald because most people are going to steer clear of a guy who lost an MVP QB and now has....er....Derek Anderson. I passed on him in every league. Why take a chance with a high pick that could ruin your team? And this os the perfect roster to take a chance on him with. Guys like Fitzgerald are either awesome, or basically Ochocinco level- who knows? I'm not taking that chance at 2. Early 3? Okay, nice upside. Fitzgerald has name value, but so did Randy Moss in Oakland, and I just want no part of that. Point being that we dont know if CE is loaded at wideout because we don't know how good Derek anderson is going to be.

lAs with all 10 team leagues, there isn't quite enough talent to be loaded at every single position and CE hit it on the head: Kevin Kolb is the QB. That could be rough. However, you can stream this position fairly easily in a 10 team league if he doesnt work out. And if it doesnt work out you have a top7 guy in Ben coming back in week 6.

This looks par for the course for a ten team league, especially given the fact that Colston has lived off his reputation of 3 or 4 years ago. Too many vultures in that offense for my liking. I own him but Im already regretting it LOL...

This team is pretty awesome, and I agree with your assessment: It rests on Kolb and Fitzgerald being good.

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Because Derek Anderson can make plays that Kurt Warner couldn't make last year for the Cards. Warner had a bad shoulder all season and couldn't throw a pass deeper than 20 yards last season. Anderson is money on the longer throws and can take advantage of Fitz's abilities. Fitzgerald will again be among the Top-3 in Targets.

Fitzgerald is a Top-3 Wide Receiver this season, and many sites (the good ones, at least) back that up.

This will be the first time in Anderson's career where he'll have a Receiver who can "Catch" the ball. Winslow is terrible at dropping passes, and nobody in the league is worse than Braylon Edwards. That's why both of them were traded. They'd both blow drives every game with dropped 3rd-down passes that were right on the money by Anderson or anybody else throwing the ball.

This will be Anderson's highest completion percentage of his career. Few people, especially Browns and Bengals fans, understand Derek Anderson very well.

Most people are predicting that Max Hall will overtake Derek Anderson for the starting gig before the season is over. Whisenhunt even said that Max Hall had the best pre-season of all his Quarterbacks. That may be true, but Anderson will hold him off, throw for 3800 yards, 28 Touchdowns, and only throw 15 interceptions. He'll even run for 2 Touchdowns making 30 total.

I won't play in 10-team leagues.

There's way too much talent available for everyone to have a great team.

There's no skill involved.

14-team leagues are the best. Everyone has one weak point, just like the real NFL, and you have to pick your poison, really consider matchups, all rounds of drafting become important, and you have to pay a little more attention to the season. That makes it more fun. If you're too busy and don't have that much time a particular year, then I'd make sure I got 4 guys that I could plug in every week. Then it'd just be about figuring out 2 WR's each week, or which Defense to play based on a matchup.

I can't understand why my team ain't getting no love from the guru. Ten team league PPR, one flex, 2 rb, 2wr, qb, te, def, kicker. Did I miss something here?

Rivers, Kolb, Stafford
Rice, Charles, Deangelo Williams, Marion Barber
Wayne, Welker, Nicks, Bowe, Santonio Holmes
Daniels, Heath Miller
NY Giants
Buehler K