Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
This is just intended as a reference. Feel free to discuss how good/bad the contracts are. To make the list, a player must be on the 40-man roster or have Major League experience. I apologize if the format is too sloppy--I couldn't think of a better way to do it.
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NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Jon Adkins RP 30 2.045 minor league
Jeremy Affeldt RP 28 6.000 3.0mm
Drew T. Anderson OF 26 0.021 pre-arbitration
Bronson Arroyo SP 31 5.150 6.45mm 9.5mm 11.0mm 11.0mm co
2.0mm bo
Homer Bailey SP 21 0.041 pre-arbitration
Paul Bako C 35 9.140 minor league
Kevin Barker 1B 32 0.148 minor league
Matt Belisle SP 27 3.024 1.25mm
Bill Bray RP 24 1.112 pre-arbitration
Jim Brower RP 35 6.040 minor league
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Jared Burton RP 26 1.000 pre-arbitration
Jolbert Cabrera IF 35 5.057 minor league
Juan Castro IF 35 11.024 0.975mm 1.1mm co
0.1mm bo
Todd Coffey RP 27 2.135 0.925mm
Alvin Colina C 26 0.024 pre-arbitration
Francisco Cordero RP 32 8.046 9.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm 12.0mm co
1.0mm bo
Jon Coutlangus RP 27 0.161 pre-arbitration
Chris Dickerson OF 25 0.000 pre-arbitration
Adam Dunn OF 28 6.074 13.0mm
Edwin Encarnacion 3B 25 2.085 pre-arbitration
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Josh Fogg SP 31 6.030 1.0mm
Ryan Freel UT 32 4.140 3.0mm 4.0mm
Richie Gardner SP 26 0.000 pre-arbitration
Dave Gassner SP 29 0.009 minor league
Jerry Gil UT 25 1.130 minor league
Alex Gonzalez SS 31 9.034 4.625mm 5.375mm 6.0mm mo
0.125mm bonus w/ Gold Glove in 2008
Andy Green 2B 30 1.120 minor league
Ken Griffey, Jr. OF 38 19.000 12.5mm 16.5mm co
4.0mm bo
Ryan Hanigan C 27 0.027 pre-arbitration
Aaron Harang SP 29 5.061 6.75mm 11.0mm 12.5mm 12.75mm co
2.0mm bo
*option escalates to 13.0mm w/ 210 IP in 2010
*if traded, 2011 is 14.0mm mo w/ 2.5mm bo
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Scott Hatteberg 1B 38 11.070 1.85mm
Norris Hopper OF 29 1.043 pre-arbitration
Paul Janish IF 25 0.000 pre-arbitration
Jeff Keppinger IF 27 1.052 pre-arbitration
Justin Lehr RP 30 1.049 minor league
Mike Lincoln RP 32 3.067 minor league
Bobby Livingston SP 25 0.107 pre-arbitration
Marcus McBeth RP 27 0.073 pre-arbitration
Gary Majewski RP 28 2.117 pre-arbitration
Kent Mercker RP 40 15.106 minor league
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Chris Michalak RP 37 1.142 minor league
Ty Pelland RP 24 0.000 pre-arbitration
Adam Pettyjohn SP 30 1.086 minor league
Andy Phillips IF 30 2.055 minor league
Brandon Phillips 2B 26 3.022 2.75mm 4.75mm 6.75mm 11.0mm 12.0mm co
1.0mm bo
Ramon Ramirez RP 25 0.000 pre-arbitration
Dave Ross C 31 5.001 2.525mm 3.5mm co
0.375mm bo
Brad Salmon RP 28 0.082 minor league
Scott Sauerbeck RP 36 7.000 minor league
Tom Shearn SP 30 0.036 minor league
NAME POS AGE MLBSVC. 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Alex Smit SP 22 0.000 pre-arbitration
Mike Stanton RP 40 18.039 3.0mm 2.5mm co
0.5mm bo
2009 option is guaranteed at 2.75mm w/ 140 appearances in 2007-8
Ricky Stone RP 33 3.048 minor league
Craig Tatum C 25 0.000 pre-arbitration
Daryl Thompson SP 22 0.000 pre-arbitration
Javier Valentin C 32 7.036 1.3mm
Sergio Valenzuela SP 23 0.000 pre-arbitration
Edinson Volquez SP 24 0.120 pre-arbitration
Joey Votto 1B 24 0.027 pre-arbitration
David Weathers RP 38 14.044 2.75mm
mm = million dollars
mo = mutual option
co = club option
bo = buyout
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
It's really sad to see Castro and Stanton on books for 2009.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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cumberlandreds
It's really sad to see Castro and Stanton on books for 2009.
Are we actually commited to them or are we only out a buyout? It's a shame we're out either one but a buyout beats eating a whole year's salary
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
archive this-- it's useful.
Reds are in a remarkably strong state in terms of next year's arbitrations (EdE alone unless Coffey improves or Bray hits super 2 jackpot), next year's FAs (Dunn alone; Jr is surely gone), current player options (nobody significant). There's a dicey Rule V guy, but otherwise, it really doesn't get structured better than this.
now, we just need better players ;)
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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Sea Ray
Are we actually commited to them or are we only out a buyout? It's a shame we're out either one but a buyout beats eating a whole year's salary
$100,000 buy out for Castro
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
Castro and Stanton are both club options for 2009 although Stanton has a vesting clause.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
Ugh, the Griffey contract is killer right now....imagine what another 17 million free would do for this team! :(
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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redsrule2500
Ugh, the Griffey contract is killer right now....imagine what another 17 million free would do for this team! :(
you're late to the party
in fact, Jr's contract looks better now than it has in years.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
Quick question on Stanton's contract.
Assume that Stanton is cut in spring training,
OKAY NOW STOP CELEBRATING, THIS IS ONLY HYPOTHETICAL
If another team(say the Cardinals) picks him up,
AGAIN STOP CELEBRATING, NO NEED TO BEGIN IMAGINING STANTON BEING BROUGHT IN TO FACE DUNN LATE IN A GAME, WE'RE ONLY HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING HERE.
Anyways, if the the other team picks him up, do they pick up the same contract he signed with the Reds or do they write a new one? Meaning would the vesting option transfer over to the team he signs with?
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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Originally Posted by
Hoosier Red
Quick question on Stanton's contract.
Assume that Stanton is cut in spring training,
OKAY NOW STOP CELEBRATING, THIS IS ONLY HYPOTHETICAL
If another team(say the Cardinals) picks him up,
AGAIN STOP CELEBRATING, NO NEED TO BEGIN IMAGINING STANTON BEING BROUGHT IN TO FACE DUNN LATE IN A GAME, WE'RE ONLY HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING HERE.
Anyways, if the the other team picks him up, do they pick up the same contract he signed with the Reds or do they write a new one? Meaning would the vesting option transfer over to the team he signs with?
My understanding is that they would only have to pay him the major league minimum with the Reds picking up the rest of the tab for 2008 but if his option vested then whoever picked him up would be responsible for his entire 2009 contract.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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pedro
My understanding is that they would only have to pay him the major league minimum with the Reds picking up the rest of the tab for 2008 but if his option vested then whoever picked him up would be responsible for his entire 2009 contract.
My understanding is it would depend upon whether the Cards picked him up on waivers or did they wait until he cleared waivers and became a free agent. If he's a waiver wire pickup then the Cards would take over the contract. If not then the Reds are responsible for the 2008 contract, plus the buyout (but not the incentives ) minus the major league minimum which the Cards would be responsible for.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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pedro
$100,000 buy out for Castro
That's a bargain
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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Originally Posted by
Sea Ray
My understanding is it would depend upon whether the Cards picked him up on waivers or did they wait until he cleared waivers and because a free agent. If he's a waiver wire pickup then the Cards would take over the contract. If not then the Reds are responsible for the 2008 contract, plus the buyout (but not the incentives ) minus the major league minimum which the Cards would be responsible for.
Hmmm... I'm not sure. I don't think a team is responsible for buyout clauses once a player is not on their roster, unless, of course, nobody picks him up. I could be wrong though.
Re: Cincinnati Reds Contract Obligations
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pedro
Hmmm... I'm not sure. I don't think a team is responsible for buyout clauses once a player is not on their roster, unless, of course, nobody picks him up. I could be wrong though.
I'm not sure either but it was my recollection that the Reds were still on the hook for Danny Graves' buyout. For example, I doubt that the Reds could cut KGR in Sept if they fall out of the race and escape that $4mill buyout.