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Yup, It really looks ready to fly to the United States and attack us. Well, maybe with a little help from the tooth fairy and her/his magic fairy dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by paintmered
I'm also sure while they are flying to attack us that the jets will be refueled by Iraq's fleet of KC-135 and KC-10's in flight.
To me Saddam was a great guy. I mean, he may have done some things, but those were in the past. I think America is the real terrorist threat. 9-11 was staged. In fact, anything that conservatives say is a total fallacy because they lack logic and any sort of elevated mental capabilities. Heck, they believe in a God. Who does that nowadays? It's the 21st century. Sheesh.
We sure kissed his butt when it was convenient for us. He was a bad guy then too. All this "spreading freedom" rhetoric is just a bunch of double speak to cover up for misguided decisions made to further personal agendas.
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Sometimes I wonder how people make it so far in life.
Completely rediculous.
Does it get any easier?Quote:
Originally Posted by DunnersGrl44
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Originally Posted by The Baumer
Now you're talkin'.
Yeah, cuz Western Civilization has been a real stinker, what with that logic hocus-pocus hanging around. I know I'd much rather live under the caprices of a theocratic order. That would be so much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Baumer
Do we have to start these arguments all over again? It's like watching a John Wayne movie marathon on TBS every weekend! You've seen them all, but yet somehow you just can't pass it up! :lol:
It's not like one side is gonna convince or change the mind of the other, so why argue?
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
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Argumentum ad numerum
This fallacy is closely related to the argumentum ad populum. It consists of asserting that the more people who support or believe a proposition, the more likely it is that that proposition is correct. For example:"The vast majority of people in this country believe that capital punishment has a noticeable deterrent effect. To suggest that it doesn't in the face of so much evidence is ridiculous."
"All I'm saying is that thousands of people believe in pyramid power, so there must be something to it."
This one could have been a couple of different fallacies, but I guess this one will do well enough:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
or, for that matterQuote:
Non sequitur
A non sequitur is an argument where the conclusion is drawn from premises which aren't logically connected with it. For example:"Since Egyptians did so much excavation to construct the pyramids, they were well versed in paleontology."(Non sequiturs are an important ingredient in a lot of humor. They're still fallacies, though.)
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Red herring
This fallacy is committed when someone introduces irrelevant material to the issue being discussed, so that everyone's attention is diverted away from the points made, towards a different conclusion."You may claim that the death penalty is an ineffective deterrent against crime -- but what about the victims of crime? How do you think surviving family members feel when they see the man who murdered their son kept in prison at their expense? Is it right that they should pay for their son's murderer to be fed and housed?"
fallacy definitions including the examples grabbed from:http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
I am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to convey. Let's try and break it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Baumer
No. he was not.Quote:
To me Saddam was a great guy.
You mean the past when he was our friend or the past when he was our enemy?Quote:
I mean, he may have done some things, but those were in the past.
No, but an awesome weapon (the U.S. Military) when inappropiately and misguidedly used could be a real threat to the stability of the US and it's allies.Quote:
I think America is the real terrorist threat.
BINGO! You hit this one on the nose. Not only was it staged. It was planned and rehearsed by the Iraqi, I mean Saudi Terrorist. All the while it was being staged and rehearsed the President was given an intelligence report that stated "Bin Laden/Al Qeada determined to strike in US."Quote:
9-11 was staged.
You sure are backing this one up. But that's a general statement and not all conservatives lack logic and some do actually have brains.Quote:
In fact, anything that conservatives say is a total fallacy because they lack logic and any sort of elevated mental capabilities.
I could be mistaken but IMO most of the world believes in a supreme being. That would include the Taliban, Muslims, Saddam, Osama Bin Ladin, Liberals, Conversatives, the Moonies, David Koresh, Jim Jones, the Buddists. etc, etc. So, I don't see the point you are trying to make.Quote:
Heck, they believe in a God. Who does that nowadays?
It is? I better get to bed, it's pass my bedtime. ;)Quote:
It's the 21st century. Sheesh
Amusing post from Ochre. I certainly hope you don't think you're winning an argument with that.
not even involved in one. Just pointing out the fallacies as I see them.
If this were a basketball game, the term we'd use for it would be "facial" and your coach would have found you a cozy spot on the pine where you could hide your head under a towel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
If it were a basketball game I'd have to send in a goon to break an arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by M2
Nah, hes so "ronery";)Quote:
Originally Posted by MWM