Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
Raisor
Jim Leyland not getting himself tossed is a shame too.
I think Leyland would have had to hit him to get run there. No way was Joyce going to make a bad situation worse. Otherwise he would've tossed Miggy too.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
Hap
Can the commissioner invoke his "best interests of the game" clause and reverse an umpire's call?
My friends and I were talking about that too. Something has to be done. A reversal could possibly (sad but true) save Jim Joyce's life, as well as give Galaragga what he deserves. Everyone would be a winner, except the Indians, but the outcome wouldn't change.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
RedsManRick
Obviously it won't help Galarraga. But I imagine the replay conversation will come up.
And I hope it does.
Galarraga still gets a one hitter but that just shouldn't have happened and bad calls like that happen too often.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
It was a mistake. It happens. I don't think the ump is any happier about it than anyone else. That play gets missed by umps ALL THE TIME. Joyce just happens to have missed it on the last out of a perfect game. Hitters miss pitches. Pitchers leave the ball up. Umps miss calls. It was a bad call. But I lean towards what Rick said. I think he was trying so hard to not be biased, that he screwed it up.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
Even if Selig could change it, there's no way to give Gallaraga and Tigers that moment on the field back.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
In any other world, you'd be fired if you did something so awful on the job.
In baseball it's called the "human element."
"Human element" is French for "We have the technology to get the call right, but we're not going to do that."
And truthfully- the "human element" should go the other way- if I were umping, the runner would have had to been in left field before I called him safe.
Roy Halladay had a strike zone 6 inches wider than the rules stipulate...as that game wore on, it got wider and wider....
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
I feel bad for Jim Joyce. His life will never be the same. Did you see Jason Donald's reaction? He couldn't believe the call.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
If Joyce says he called him safe because of the movement of the ball in the glove, could the official scorer change it to an error on Galarraga to at least give him a no-hitter?
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
Dom Heffner
In any other world, you'd be fired if you did something so awful on the job.
In baseball it's called the "human element."
"Human element" is French for "We have the technology to get the call right, but we're not going to do that."
And truthfully- the "human element" should go the other way- if I were umping, the runner would have had to been in left field before I called him safe.
Roy Halladay had a strike zone 6 inches wider than the rules stipulate...as that game wore on, it got wider and wider....
funny you mention that...just based on the lookin, galaragga was given some genorous calls on theoutside corner
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
redhawkfish
If Joyce says he called him safe because of the movement of the ball in the glove, could the official scorer change it to an error on Galarraga to at least give him a no-hitter?
Tough play. Would be a base hit.
Re: Armando Galarraga perfect through 7
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Originally Posted by
edabbs44
Tough play. Would be a base hit.
I know I was just grasping at straws. I just feel sick for the kid.
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Life sucks. People in Africa are starving. And millionaires are deprived of jumping up and down on a big grass diamond sprayed with chemicals leeching into the groundwater. Jim Joyce will survive.
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redsfandan
What can they do? Maybe change when replays are used? Won't help Galarraga.
I think baseball umps should be able to over rule each other like in the NFL. The fact that conferences rarely happen in baseball makes umpiring subpar to other leagues like the NFL IMO.
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Sea Ray
I think baseball umps should be able to over rule each other like in the NFL. The fact that conferences rarely happen in baseball makes umpiring subpar to other leagues like the NFL IMO.
I would stop watching baseball if conferences were added to Jorge Posada's visits to the mound.