Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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AtomicDumpling
What evidence to you have that steroids or HGH helps weight lifters and swimmers and football players?
Olympic records and world records in weight-lifting, swimming and track & field have been broken year after year. Just this past Olympics many records were broken. If PEDs had been so helpful to athletes in the steroid era then why have their records been broken by clean athletes in recent years under stringent PED testing? If steroids were so effective those cheaters' records should still be in effect but they were broken long ago.
Blood doping in cycling is a bit different because they were injecting themselves with extra red-blood cells before races to improve their endurance. That was likely very effective, but it is not a steroid or PED.
Wow, just wow. So now you are saying PED's don't help strength and even something like swimming. Just wow. Alright, you are to be put on ignore and I can't say anything more because I would get banned.
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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Originally Posted by
jojo
Again, the correct conclusion is that there is a lack of scientific evidence for the benefits of HGH on baseball players.
again, as I have stated multiple times, HGH benefits are when combined with steroids. On top of that, there are studies that HGH increases lean muscle mass. So it does have some benefits on it's own, albeit minimal.
I am done going in circles with you guys. It starts to feel like I am debating if the moon landing is real or not. Having to refute poor data and psuedo science is getting real annoying.
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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Originally Posted by
scott91575
again, as I have stated multiple times, HGH benefits are when combined with steroids. On top of that, there are studies that HGH increases lean muscle mass. So it does have some benefits on it's own, albeit minimal.
I am done going in circles with you guys. It starts to feel like I am debating if the moon landing is real or not. Having to refute poor data and psuedo science is getting real annoying.
Then get off the unicyle.... the scientific, peer-reviewed literature does not support an argument that HGH benefits baseball players.
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I saw this article the other day when RedsZone was down and thought it would be interesting to share this and have people see this from a player's point of view who was basically a lifelong minor leaguer.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...rticleid=19717
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
Lebron now mentioned in the scandal. Not really the NYT reporting, but it's something I guess. This would be about as surprising as the sun coming up tomorrow.
http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=28
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http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/robins...s-this-season/
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Consider this the bombshell before the bombshell, should this prophecy eventually come true. Joe Bisceglie from Dog And Pony Show tweeted Monday afternoon that four of baseball’s biggest bats, including three New York Yankees and two formerly implicated players, will each be slapped with 50-game first-offense PED suspensions. They are, of course, Robinson Cano, Alex Rodriguez, Curtis Granderson, and Ryan Braun.
This same source was correct on the Melky Cabrera news last summer.
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Homer Bailey
If that source is correct and those players are all suspended...WOW! I guess I shouldn't be surprised anymore about these stories. Seems to me the penalties need to be upped. One offense, gone for 162 games. Second offense, done playing baseball.
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I'm still waiting for some sort of sanction against a team.
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Originally Posted by
edabbs44
I'm still waiting for some sort of sanction against a team.
Don't hold your breath
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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westofyou
Don't hold your breath
Eh, maybe but I don't think it is out of the realm. The NO bounty case may have opened some doors.
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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Originally Posted by
edabbs44
Eh, maybe but I don't think it is out of the realm. The NO bounty case may have opened some doors.
Yeah, that turned out well.
Re: Ryan Braun going down?
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westofyou
Yeah, that turned out well.
Turned out pretty badly for the 2012 Saints.