Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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"I don't think much of Bailey at all." He said he thought this because Bailey can't/won't succeed in GABP and because he's with the Reds organization.
Will Carroll is FCB. Mystery solved. :p:
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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Says he mainly covers injuries for Baseball Prospectus and DB has helped him keep a job.
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Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
Just another talking head.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
It is a mystery to me how one can assess young players with such affirmity before the players have had more than just a cup of coffee and just barely get their feet wet, yet one can claim they are this or that or not etc.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
I agree with most of this, although I doubt Hatteberg will start over Votto. I'm not a huge Homer guy, but I don't know if he's as worthless as Caroll implies.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
Who did Neiffi Perez hold back?
The most egregious examples of DB playing veterans over youngins was Karros over Choi and Neiffi over...
Before citing the required "Dusty always plays veterans" I'd like someone to point out a veteran who played more than a true prospect.
Karros over Choi wasn't exactly holding back the second coming of Lou Gehrig.
Jeremy Burnitz playing over Jason Dubois when Dubois wasn't exactly Babe Ruth.
On the other hand;
Ronny Cedeno, Corey Patterson, Aramis Ramirez all played despite the dreaded sin of being younger than 25.
And no one has ever accused Dusty of holding back young arms.(That's right, he only destroys all the young guys who pitch for him, except Zambrano.)
It should be noted that Prior and Wood each pitched fewer innings in 2003(in a pennant race) than in 2002(not in a pennant race.)
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
All the recycled received wisdom on Baker. My guess is that Baker has learned from past mistakes.
But the soundbytes will take a while to change -- makes the byter sound good, after all.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
Its very simple. Those who made up their mind about the culpability of Baker with Prior and Wood are not going to change that opinion until he proves otherwise in this opportunity. I think the case is overstated, but it is easy enough to say and hard to prove otherwise. Unfortunately, he is running into "have you stopped beating your wife" territory with that particular issue and will have to prove himself to make soundbyters shut up about it.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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Originally Posted by
Matt700wlw
Will Carroll is FCB. Mystery solved. :p:
I figured he was writing under some name here....
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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Originally Posted by
lollipopcurve
All the recycled received wisdom on Baker. My guess is that Baker has learned from past mistakes.
But the soundbytes will take a while to change -- makes the byter sound good, after all.
Couldn't have said it better myself ;)
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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Originally Posted by
lollipopcurve
All the recycled received wisdom on Baker. My guess is that Baker has learned from past mistakes.
But the soundbytes will take a while to change -- makes the byter sound good, after all.
I would hope that Baker has learned from his mistakes. It would be hard for me to stomach a front office who brings in a guy and pays him top dollar to make the same mistakes he made in Chicago. But I guess if those same mistakes result in the reds landing in the world series I am all for them.
Re: Will Carroll on the Reds
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Originally Posted by
Hoosier Red
Who did Neiffi Perez hold back?
The most egregious examples of DB playing veterans over youngins was Karros over Choi and Neiffi over...
Exactly what I thought. It was funny, when discussing DB playing Hatt over Votto during the interview Carroll said, "Well he played Neifi Perez instead of...(slight pause)... anybody else who could hold a bat." It was a pretty good save, but also pretty obvious he had no idea who Neifi was holding back.
I'll be shocked if the roster - and the injuries to the young guns - plays out how Carroll says it will.
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Will is a nice guy, and a disgruntled Cubs fan, he has his grudges... and Dusty did manage in another city for a longer span then Chicago... something that always seems to be forgotten.
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I'm as critical of Dusty as the next guy, but the "he only plays vets" argument doesn't hold much water when you dig a little and see he's never been given much young talent to hold back. Simply stick with the pitcher mismanagement, in game decision making, and lineup construction for now. Otherwise, he'll give us plenty of actual decisions to complain about soon enough.