Castellini on the "pitching and defense" approach
Lonnie Wheeler, Cincinnati Post
Krivsky was willing to make that exchange on the basis that his principles, which blend nicely with Narron's, involve winning with pitching and defense. They're sound principles, and will not be disputed here.
But will they bring the folks back to the fold? In this age of home run highlights and video-game sensibilities, can a team draw - can a franchise prosper - with an emphasis on pitching and defense?
"It's a good question to mull over," said Castellini. "But wins are where you have to start. Whatever your game plan is, you're after the W. You can't just be after crowd-pleasing home runs all the time. You've got to win.
"Some of the greatest thrills I've ever had in my life, as a spectator, were watching those walk-off home runs. Are you kidding me? You can't get a better thrill than that. But I think a fan would rather go home winning 2-1 than losing 9-8. In Cincinnati, they've been at it for a long time. They don't like to be had. You'll get excitement for a winner.
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If Castellini were single…and my age…and a woman…
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"It's a good question to mull over," said Castellini. "But wins are where you have to start. Whatever your game plan is, you're after the W. You can't just be after crowd-pleasing home runs all the time. You've got to win.
"Some of the greatest thrills I've ever had in my life, as a spectator, were watching those walk-off home runs. Are you kidding me? You can't get a better thrill than that. But I think a fan would rather go home winning 2-1 than losing 9-8. In Cincinnati, they've been at it for a long time. They don't like to be had. You'll get excitement for a winner.
Outstanding stuff, Castellini has fans down to a science. Way to go Big Bobper!!! :thumbup:
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But I think a fan would rather go home winning 2-1 than losing 9-8. In Cincinnati, they've been at it for a long time. They don't like to be had. You'll get excitement for a winner.
I'd rather go home winning 6-1. The results of 1-run games are mostly based on luck.
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Johnny Footstool
I'd rather go home winning 6-1. The results of 1-run games are mostly based on luck.
I'd rather go home from a game with a blond on one arm and a brunette on the other after having had free beer all game and a foot massage during the 7th inning stretch while sitting in box seats as players pile their game-used swag in the trunk of my aston martin db9...
But since that really only happens to me maybe 3 to 4 times out of ten trips to GABP, i'll take winning 2-1 over losing 9-8.
:beerme:
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Johnny Footstool
I'd rather go home winning 6-1. The results of 1-run games are mostly based on luck.
Not the point.
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Johnny Footstool
I'd rather go home winning 6-1. The results of 1-run games are mostly based on luck.
I agree. There seems to be some sort of general perception that if you win 9-8 you got lucky, but if you win 2-1 you somehow earned it.
It's the same.
Those 6-1 games are the ones that say you're a better team.
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Redsland
If Castellini were single…and my age…and a woman…
The problem with you, Redsland, is that you are too close-minded.
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Mario-Rijo
Outstanding stuff, Castellini has fans down to a science. Way to go Big Bobper!!! :thumbup:
I need more $1 Hot Dogs Mr. C !!!:laugh:
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jojo
I'd rather go home from a game with a blond on one arm and a brunette on the other after having had free beer all game and a foot massage during the 7th inning stretch while sitting in box seats as players pile their game-used swag in the trunk of my aston martin db9...
But since that really only happens to me maybe 3 to 4 times out of ten trips to GABP, i'll take winning 2-1 over losing 9-8.
:beerme:
Ohhh I see how you are... Excluding Red Heads! :laugh:
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Team Clark
Ohhh I see how you are... Excluding Red Heads! :laugh:
Dont mind Jojo, he is a Hater! :p:
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Matt700wlw
Lonnie Wheeler, Cincinnati Post
Krivsky was willing to make that exchange on the basis that his principles, which blend nicely with Narron's, involve winning with pitching and defense. They're sound principles, and will not be disputed here.
But will they bring the folks back to the fold? In this age of home run highlights and video-game sensibilities, can a team draw - can a franchise prosper - with an emphasis on pitching and defense?
"It's a good question to mull over," said Castellini. "But wins are where you have to start. Whatever your game plan is, you're after the W. You can't just be after crowd-pleasing home runs all the time. You've got to win.
"Some of the greatest thrills I've ever had in my life, as a spectator, were watching those walk-off home runs. Are you kidding me? You can't get a better thrill than that. But I think a fan would rather go home winning 2-1 than losing 9-8. In Cincinnati, they've been at it for a long time. They don't like to be had. You'll get excitement for a winner.
You know tonight's game was more exciting than Sunday's game even though the Reds lost tonight and won on Sunday. Sure the Reds lost tonight but there were 16 runs scored in between the 2 teams. Sunday's game featured all of 1 RUN BETWEEN THE TWO TEAMS! It looks good on the stats page to have the Reds with a .500 road trip but as far as entertainment goes...BLECH... If Castellini wants to bring in the casual fan he's not going to be bringing in alot without an offensive explosion. And it appears that ain't going to happen...
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dougdirt
Dont mind Jojo, he is a Hater! :p:
Cut the guy some slack! After all, the man only has two arms! :p:
Rem
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harangatang
If Castellini wants to bring in the casual fan he's not going to be bringing in alot without an offensive explosion. And it appears that ain't going to happen...
Ummm...we've had an explosive offense for the past number of year up until now and attendence amoungst the casual fan did not increase. I think we've shown that lots of runs doesn't equate to much in terms of wins or attendence.
Casual fans want entertainment. Because everybody's definition of what is an entertaining game differs (lots of runs, close games, pitchers duel, blow out) why not focus on the one thing that most people really find entertaining on some level: a winning team?
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dougdirt
Dont mind Jojo, he is a Hater! :p:
My wife is a redhead....already got that one covered....
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